56660 - Unable to dynamically install a functioning java plugin

Status: VERIFIED DUPLICATE of bug 66840

(Core Graveyard :: Java: OJI, defect, P3)

Description

[Stephen P. Morse]

Go to above url which is a java applet.  I get a message saying that I should 
"click here to get the plugin".  I do that and go through the entire process of 
downloading and installing.

Instructions are a bit confusing because at one point I was told that I would 
have to restart the browser in order to use the downloaded plugin, and at 
another point I was told that I would need to restart windows in order to do so.  
So I tried both but neither worked.  I am still not able to run the java applet 
on the above page.  When I returned to the page after the reboot I was told 
again to "click here to get the plugin".  I did click a second time, went 
through the download procedure again, but it didn't help.

Comment 1

[Stephen P. Morse]

I would consider it dogfood if I am unable to run java applets.

Comment 2

[shrirang khanzode]

This works fine for me on Win NT.

Comment 3

[edburns]

Wint WINNT4.0 SP3, Mozilla 10/11/00, JPI 10/13/00, this applet loads and 
displays correctly.

Comment 4

[Stephen P. Morse]

I don't doubt that the applet would run fine once you get the plugin.  My 
problem appears to be that I am unable to get the plugin.  What could I be doing 
that's wrong?

Comment 5

[Stephen P. Morse]

I never was able to get this to work.  Following message to mozilla-seamonkey 
was just posted by Akkana.

   My understanding is that you have to get the Java plugin as part of a
   Netscape install.  The Java bits downloadable from Sun are the wrong
   ones and don't work with Mozilla.  Theoretically this is going to be
   fixed at some future time, but I haven't seen a bug that tracks
   that issue; might be worth reopening 56660 or filing a new bug to
   make sure there's a record of the problem.

Therefore reopening this bug report but removing the dogfood and rtm 
indications since it is apparently working in the commercial bits if you use 
the installer (which I never do).

Comment 6

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Not being able to run Java with Mozilla would be a major loss in functionality.

Howver, I got the N6PR3 Java xpi for Linux to work with Mozilla at the time PR3
were released (but I got error msgs about Java not being loaded during startup).
Dunno, what I tried, but I could run some Java app(let)s.

morse, did you try to just point Mozilla at the xpi file?

Comment 7

[Stephen P. Morse]

I tried and did exactly what I was told to do by the messages that appeared on 
the screen when I encountered the applet.  If I wasn't able to get java to run 
following those instructions, then certainly a typical user will not be able to 
do use java either.

Either the instructions that are presented to the user are wrong, or the 
installation is flawed.  In either case, java won't work for a typical user.

Comment 8

[dcary]

I agree with [e-mail] that this is really a bug in the
installation software or documentation rather than the java plug-in itself.

I suggest changing summary
from ``Unable to run java applets''
to ``Unable to install a functioning Java plug-in''.

Clicking on a page with a Java applet
(I use
 http://www.time.gov/
but I'm sure it's generic)
opens a window that claims to be downloading the plugin via ftp,
but it never finishes. (This might be an unrelated problem with my proxy).
When I hit `cancel' in that window, I get a message directing me to
 ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.0/windows/win32/smartupdate/jre13i.exe

. When I download and run this file, it creates (when I accept the defaults)
  C:\Program Files\JavaSoft\JRE\1.3.0_01
and sticks a bunch of files in it.
Even after rebooting, though, Mozilla doesn't act any different -- it
still prompts ``Click here to get the plugin''.

Is this the right version for Mozilla ?
Maybe Mozilla just isn't detecting it ?

This is on
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010114
.

Comment 9

[Oliver Klee]

Installing the JRE 1.3.0_01 plugin doesn't completely work for me either: After
installing Mozilla, I have to copy the NPOJI600.dll into the Plugins directory
by hand. Same if I install Mozilla first and then the JRE.

Comment 10

[shrirang khanzode]

bug 66339 is addressing the same issue (kind of..)

Comment 11

[Daniel Veditz [:dveditz]]

Is this tbe same as bug 58267? That one has a patch coming soon.

Comment 12

[edburns]

Change summary

Comment 13

[edburns]

Xiaobin, this is in your category.

Comment 14

[Xiaobin Lu]

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 66840 ***

Comment 15

[shrirang khanzode]

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