Closed
Bug 582721
Opened 15 years ago
Closed 14 years ago
Link to Firefox Privacy Policy needed on download pages
Categories
(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
VERIFIED
FIXED
1.1
People
(Reporter: liz, Assigned: sgarrity)
References
Details
Attachments
(2 files, 3 obsolete files)
52.06 KB,
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1.01 KB,
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pascalc
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review+
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Details | Diff | Splinter Review |
Legal is requesting that a link to the Firefox privacy policy be added to mozilla.com, http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html, and any other pages where we have a Firefox download button, in close proximity to the button, so people have the opportunity to review the policy before downloading if they wish to. We'd like to review the placement of the link when you've determined the best place for it, or would be happy to work with you to figure that out. Please note the Firefox privacy policy is different from the website privacy policy linked from the bottom of many of our pages. The Firefox privacy policy is located here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html.
Comment 1•15 years ago
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--> Websites::www.mozilla.com
Steven, maybe we can change the download button PHP code to include a link to the privacy policy? It's already pretty crowded in that button, though.
Assignee: server-ops → nobody
Component: Server Operations: Web Content Push → www.mozilla.com
Product: mozilla.org → Websites
QA Contact: mrz → www-mozilla-com
Assignee | ||
Comment 2•15 years ago
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As things are getting crowded with the download button, I thought a quick inventory and review of the existing elements and this new requirement might be worthwhile.
Currently, the button includes:
* Text/Title (eg. "Download Firefox - Free")
* Version number (eg. "3.6.8")
* Locale (eg. "English (US)")
* Platform (eg. "Linux")
* File Size (eg. "9.8MB")
* "Release Notes" link
* "Other Systems and Languages" link
+ "Privacy Policy" link
Do we still need all of this? I'm CC'ing Blake here in case any of his testing can inform this.
Do we need a "Release Notes" link? Do people know what Release Notes are? Could Release Notes and Other Sys/Lang be merged into one "More Information" link?
Is download size still an incentive for downloaders?
Will the wording for the link be "Privacy Policy"? Does it need to be "Firefox Privacy Policy"? Could it just be "Privacy"?
Reporter | ||
Comment 3•15 years ago
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Good questions. With respect to the privacy policy link, I don't think it needs to say "Firefox Privacy Policy." I think "Privacy Policy" is the better choice, but if space ends up being a big issue, "Privacy" is acceptable.
Comment 4•15 years ago
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Will be easy to test a few variations. Steven, which elements would you like to remove? I doubt these changes would have much impact on our download conversion rate.
Comment 5•15 years ago
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Let's start by removing the file size and platform. File size isn't that relevant (and increasingly inaccurate!) and OS is always detected properly.
Comment 6•15 years ago
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Re Comment 2 and the name of the link to the privacy policy: I agree that Firefox Privacy Policy isn't necessary, but I think just the word "privacy" is a bit clunky. I think "privacy policy" is a better choice from a legal perspective (b/c we have obligations to present one to folks).
Comment 7•15 years ago
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(In reply to comment #5)
> Let's start by removing the file size and platform. File size isn't that
> relevant (and increasingly inaccurate!) and OS is always detected properly.
Agreed. Looking forward to seeing how the tests play out.
(In reply to comment #6)
> Re Comment 2 and the name of the link to the privacy policy: I agree that
> Firefox Privacy Policy isn't necessary, but I think just the word "privacy" is
> a bit clunky. I think "privacy policy" is a better choice from a legal
> perspective (b/c we have obligations to present one to folks).
+1 for "Privacy Policy"
Comment 8•15 years ago
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(In reply to comment #5)
> Let's start by removing the file size and platform. File size isn't that
> relevant (and increasingly inaccurate!) and OS is always detected properly.
omg, yes please. I was just pondering this two nights ago, and my next step was to ask you what you thought ;)
That would make managing firefox-details a lot easier too.
Assignee | ||
Comment 9•14 years ago
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Dropping the file size and platform does simplify the whole area a bit, but it doesn't open up space for the privacy link (since that info was inside the button).
I've added the privacy links to the most prominent download locations in trunk in r73420. (home page and Firefox landing pages). For the rest of the download buttons, I need a change to the product-details libs, which I don't have permissions for. Patch attached.
Attachment #470782 -
Flags: review?(abuchanan)
Reporter | ||
Comment 10•14 years ago
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Hi all. Just wondering where this stands.
Comment 11•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #10)
> Hi all. Just wondering where this stands.
Seems like we need to clear some space under the button for privacy. Can we remove release notes? Or what about shortening the text to just read "Languages"?
I've attached a screenshot of what the button looks like on the redesigned site (launching in December). As you can see, Steven already has the privacy policy link in there, but it feels a little crowded. If we can trim the wording a bit it will look a lot better.
Assignee | ||
Comment 12•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #11)
> Seems like we need to clear some space under the button for privacy. Can we
> remove release notes? Or what about shortening the text to just read
> "Languages"?
Agreed. I'd like to see these extra links with the download button kept to an absolute minimum. What can go, and how the remaining links should be worded, though, isn't something I really have the authority to determine myself.
Comment 13•14 years ago
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I'm fine with removing the release notes link, and shortening "Other Systems and Languages" to "All Systems & Languages"
Updated•14 years ago
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Group: infra
Comment 14•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #13)
> I'm fine with removing the release notes link, and shortening "Other Systems
> and Languages" to "All Systems & Languages"
Sounds like a great solution to me.
Assignee | ||
Comment 15•14 years ago
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Updated all pages with the download button in trunk with "All Systems & Languages | Privacy Policy" - much simpler (r75898). Merged to Stage in r75899.
Keywords: qawanted
Assignee | ||
Comment 16•14 years ago
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Updated patch for product-details lib based on updated wording.
Attachment #470782 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #470782 -
Flags: review?(abuchanan)
Comment 17•14 years ago
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Note that patching product-details introduces new strings that will impact all of our locales pages and that will expose a link to a privacy policy that is in English. Does that mean that the privacy policy has to be translated in all of our languages? Our localizers are usually not very confortable translating legal texts and this is also a very long text.
Comment 18•14 years ago
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verified on trunk http://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/
Updated•14 years ago
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Keywords: qawanted → push-needed
Comment 19•14 years ago
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r75931 pushes the changes in comment 15 to production.
Leaving open to address the product-details patch and comment 17
Keywords: push-needed
Reporter | ||
Comment 20•14 years ago
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Re Comment 17 - Legal is working on having the Firefox privacy policy translated into the top 10 languages. We hope to have this done prior to the launch of Firefox 4. Once these translation are ready, it would be great if the privacy policy link went to the right language for the version of Firefox being downloaded. We should default to English if there isn't a translation available.
Is that workable? How should we make the translations available once they're ready?
Reporter | ||
Comment 21•14 years ago
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Thanks so much for adding the link to the mozilla.com Firefox download button. I just noticed that the download button on this page: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/underthehood/ still has the release notes link and doesn't have the privacy policy link. Could that be fixed too?
Comment 22•14 years ago
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Liz, is it ok if we make that fix on the refreshed site that's launching in December vs doing it for the current live site & the refreshed one? Btw, it's more of a global change than just the underthehood page...we have secondary download buttons like that on a bunch of pages.
Reporter | ||
Comment 23•14 years ago
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Yes (unless someone else jumps in with the a strong opinion to the contrary).
Comment 24•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #23)
> Yes (unless someone else jumps in with the a strong opinion to the contrary).
Filed bug 614494 to make this happen on the new site (launching 12/14).
Assignee | ||
Comment 25•14 years ago
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Here's up updated patch that doesn't touch the 'Other Systems...' string and only addresses the Privacy Policy link.
Attachment #483993 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #499027 -
Flags: review?(pascalc)
Comment 27•14 years ago
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Comment on attachment 499027 [details] [diff] [review]
Updated patch with Privacy Policy link change only (safe for l10n)
the link to the privacy policy should not point to the English document:
http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html
should be:
http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/
otherwise it will always fallback to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html even when we have the document translated and published.
(This is caused by the bad filename of this document in the en-US folder, legacy naming dating back to when mozilla.com had no l10n)
Attachment #499027 -
Flags: review?(pascalc) → review-
Assignee | ||
Comment 28•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #27)
> the link to the privacy policy should not point to the English document:
> http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html
> should be:
> http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/
This URL isn't specific to the Firefox privacy policy though, it includes links to both desktop and mobile policies. Liz, is that acceptable?
Comment 29•14 years ago
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I think the two privacies are going to be merged but Liz can confirm
Reporter | ||
Comment 30•14 years ago
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Yes, the two have been merged into one privacy policy for Firefox 4. The push of the new FF4 privacy policy is in Bug 603507. If that causes any complications or questions, let me know.
Assignee | ||
Comment 31•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #30)
> Yes, the two have been merged into one privacy policy for Firefox 4. The push
> of the new FF4 privacy policy is in Bug 603507. If that causes any
> complications or questions, let me know.
Is it ok if we link to http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/ prior to the merge?
Reporter | ||
Comment 32•14 years ago
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Probably, but what would the user experience be? Might it be better to make this bug dependent on Bug 603507?
Assignee | ||
Comment 33•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #32)
> Probably, but what would the user experience be? Might it be better to make
> this bug dependent on Bug 603507?
Good idea. I'll check back in when 603507 is in production.
Reporter | ||
Comment 34•14 years ago
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Bug 603507 is in production. Can you now push the redesigned button that includes a link to the privacy policy?
Updated•14 years ago
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Target Milestone: --- → 1.0
Assignee | ||
Comment 35•14 years ago
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Pascal, am I right in assuming that we need a locale-agnostic URL to be able to make this Privacy Policy link in product-details?
Right now, we have http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/ which lists all languages/versions (currently only HTML/text in English).
The actual HTML/text versions are at:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.txt
Comment 36•14 years ago
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the link should be http://www.mozilla.com/LOCALECODE/legal/privacy/firefox.html, if the translation does not exist it will fallback to the en-US page.
The translations will be stored in each locale folders, the English files should have the "-en" renamed.
The list of available translations, if still needed, will be only at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/
I don't really know if the text only version is necessary though.
Updated•14 years ago
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Target Milestone: 1.0 → 1.1
Assignee | ||
Updated•14 years ago
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Assignee: nobody → steven
Assignee | ||
Comment 37•14 years ago
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Initial move of firefox-en.html -> firefox.html is done in trunk in r81028. Still have lots of links to clean up throughout the site.
Assignee | ||
Comment 38•14 years ago
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Updated the rest of the firefox-en.html links on mozilla.com to firefox.html (r81032 in trunk).
Still to-do: update the product-details patch and add the firefox-en.html -> firefox.html redirect for external links.
Assignee | ||
Comment 39•14 years ago
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Updated patch that drops the "-en" from the file name as per Pascal's suggestion.
Attachment #499027 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #504530 -
Flags: review?(pascalc)
Assignee | ||
Comment 40•14 years ago
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Redirect from firefox-en.html -> firefox.html added to trunk in r81034. Just need review on the patch to product-details now.
Comment 41•14 years ago
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Comment on attachment 504530 [details] [diff] [review]
Updated patch with Privacy Policy link change only (safe for l10n)
r+
Note that there are also links built in javascript for en-US that should be updated, like:
http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/en-US/firefox/index.html?revision=81046&view=markup#l62
Attachment #504530 -
Flags: review?(pascalc) → review+
Assignee | ||
Comment 42•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #41)
> Note that there are also links built in javascript for en-US that should be
> updated...
Thanks Pascal, I've updated the javascript links in r81194.
Assignee | ||
Comment 43•14 years ago
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Everything is merged to stage in 81202.
James, I'll need your help with the the patch (attachment 504530 [details] [diff] [review]) as I don't have commit access to the product-details lib.
Comment 44•14 years ago
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Looks like I don't have access either. I'll file an IT bug for it.
Comment 45•14 years ago
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committed patch to product-details
r81477 | jlong@mozilla.com | 2011-01-24 18:00:39 -0500 (Mon, 24 Jan 2011) | 2 lines
Comment 46•14 years ago
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I'm trying to figure out how the product-details repo gets updated on the live site, I have yet to find out though. need to know in order to roll this out tomorrow.
anyone know?
Comment 47•14 years ago
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It's an svn external, I can show you on IRC
Comment 48•14 years ago
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this revision on staging updates the product-details library
r81478 | jlong@mozilla.com | 2011-01-24 19:02:48 -0500 (Mon, 24 Jan 2011) | 1 line
Comment 49•14 years ago
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Ok, here is the staging URL that still needs QA:
https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html
Reporter | ||
Comment 50•14 years ago
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This question may show my ignorance, but shouldn't it be the updated download button that needs QA, not the privacy policy itself?
Comment 51•14 years ago
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Yep, you are you right. I wasn't looking too closely at the details of this bug.
I'm not sure of all the download pages that were affected.
Reporter | ||
Comment 52•14 years ago
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Here's an example of a page that currently does not have a link to the privacy policy under the download button: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/. Once your patch goes through QA, the download button on all pages will have the privacy policy link, right?
Comment 53•14 years ago
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liz,
You can see the changes on the staging site (https://www.authstage.mozilla.com):
https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/
So yes, it does have the link.
Comment 54•14 years ago
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https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/ links to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html which is currently a 404
The same issues exists on the following pages
https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/underthehood/
https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/
https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/security/
Keywords: qawanted
Assignee | ||
Comment 55•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #54)
> https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/ links to
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html which is currently a
> 404
This is a case where there are absolute URLs (including the full www.mozilla.com domain) because the same code is used on some of the international sites. As long as the authstage equivalent link exists and that gets pushed to production, we'll be fine.
Comment 56•14 years ago
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Just curious, what are some of our international domains?
Comment 57•14 years ago
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@James,
mozilla-europe.org, mozillaonline.cn, mozilla.jp
(Europe, China, Japan)
Comment 58•14 years ago
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pushed to production
r81588 | jlong@mozilla.com | 2011-01-25 14:37:01 -0500 (Tue, 25 Jan 2011) | 1 line
Reporter | ||
Comment 59•14 years ago
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Thanks. It looks like the correction to the privacy policy page URL hasn't been pushed yet. Will that happen soon?
Comment 60•14 years ago
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That's a different bug that got wrapped into the next release (1.2) to be released in 2 weeks (feb 8).
If it needs to go out now, you can comment on the bug and increase its priority as a one-off bug to be pushed sooner.
Comment 61•14 years ago
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Yes, this is a priority, but in trying it now, Liz found that the link worked. Has the link been updated?
Comment 62•14 years ago
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The site takes a few minutes to update, so yes it probably had.
I think I misread the comment and thought it was referring to a different change.
Reporter | ||
Comment 63•14 years ago
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Great! Thanks.
Comment 64•14 years ago
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verified fixed http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/underthehood/
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Updated•13 years ago
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Component: www.mozilla.org/firefox → www.mozilla.org
Updated•12 years ago
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Component: www.mozilla.org → General
Product: Websites → www.mozilla.org
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