Closed Bug 582721 Opened 15 years ago Closed 14 years ago

Link to Firefox Privacy Policy needed on download pages

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(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

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VERIFIED FIXED

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(Reporter: liz, Assigned: sgarrity)

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Legal is requesting that a link to the Firefox privacy policy be added to mozilla.com, http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html, and any other pages where we have a Firefox download button, in close proximity to the button, so people have the opportunity to review the policy before downloading if they wish to. We'd like to review the placement of the link when you've determined the best place for it, or would be happy to work with you to figure that out. Please note the Firefox privacy policy is different from the website privacy policy linked from the bottom of many of our pages. The Firefox privacy policy is located here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html.
--> Websites::www.mozilla.com Steven, maybe we can change the download button PHP code to include a link to the privacy policy? It's already pretty crowded in that button, though.
Assignee: server-ops → nobody
Component: Server Operations: Web Content Push → www.mozilla.com
Product: mozilla.org → Websites
QA Contact: mrz → www-mozilla-com
As things are getting crowded with the download button, I thought a quick inventory and review of the existing elements and this new requirement might be worthwhile. Currently, the button includes: * Text/Title (eg. "Download Firefox - Free") * Version number (eg. "3.6.8") * Locale (eg. "English (US)") * Platform (eg. "Linux") * File Size (eg. "9.8MB") * "Release Notes" link * "Other Systems and Languages" link + "Privacy Policy" link Do we still need all of this? I'm CC'ing Blake here in case any of his testing can inform this. Do we need a "Release Notes" link? Do people know what Release Notes are? Could Release Notes and Other Sys/Lang be merged into one "More Information" link? Is download size still an incentive for downloaders? Will the wording for the link be "Privacy Policy"? Does it need to be "Firefox Privacy Policy"? Could it just be "Privacy"?
Good questions. With respect to the privacy policy link, I don't think it needs to say "Firefox Privacy Policy." I think "Privacy Policy" is the better choice, but if space ends up being a big issue, "Privacy" is acceptable.
Will be easy to test a few variations. Steven, which elements would you like to remove? I doubt these changes would have much impact on our download conversion rate.
Let's start by removing the file size and platform. File size isn't that relevant (and increasingly inaccurate!) and OS is always detected properly.
Re Comment 2 and the name of the link to the privacy policy: I agree that Firefox Privacy Policy isn't necessary, but I think just the word "privacy" is a bit clunky. I think "privacy policy" is a better choice from a legal perspective (b/c we have obligations to present one to folks).
(In reply to comment #5) > Let's start by removing the file size and platform. File size isn't that > relevant (and increasingly inaccurate!) and OS is always detected properly. Agreed. Looking forward to seeing how the tests play out. (In reply to comment #6) > Re Comment 2 and the name of the link to the privacy policy: I agree that > Firefox Privacy Policy isn't necessary, but I think just the word "privacy" is > a bit clunky. I think "privacy policy" is a better choice from a legal > perspective (b/c we have obligations to present one to folks). +1 for "Privacy Policy"
(In reply to comment #5) > Let's start by removing the file size and platform. File size isn't that > relevant (and increasingly inaccurate!) and OS is always detected properly. omg, yes please. I was just pondering this two nights ago, and my next step was to ask you what you thought ;) That would make managing firefox-details a lot easier too.
Dropping the file size and platform does simplify the whole area a bit, but it doesn't open up space for the privacy link (since that info was inside the button). I've added the privacy links to the most prominent download locations in trunk in r73420. (home page and Firefox landing pages). For the rest of the download buttons, I need a change to the product-details libs, which I don't have permissions for. Patch attached.
Attachment #470782 - Flags: review?(abuchanan)
Hi all. Just wondering where this stands.
(In reply to comment #10) > Hi all. Just wondering where this stands. Seems like we need to clear some space under the button for privacy. Can we remove release notes? Or what about shortening the text to just read "Languages"? I've attached a screenshot of what the button looks like on the redesigned site (launching in December). As you can see, Steven already has the privacy policy link in there, but it feels a little crowded. If we can trim the wording a bit it will look a lot better.
(In reply to comment #11) > Seems like we need to clear some space under the button for privacy. Can we > remove release notes? Or what about shortening the text to just read > "Languages"? Agreed. I'd like to see these extra links with the download button kept to an absolute minimum. What can go, and how the remaining links should be worded, though, isn't something I really have the authority to determine myself.
I'm fine with removing the release notes link, and shortening "Other Systems and Languages" to "All Systems & Languages"
Group: infra
(In reply to comment #13) > I'm fine with removing the release notes link, and shortening "Other Systems > and Languages" to "All Systems & Languages" Sounds like a great solution to me.
Updated all pages with the download button in trunk with "All Systems & Languages | Privacy Policy" - much simpler (r75898). Merged to Stage in r75899.
Keywords: qawanted
Updated patch for product-details lib based on updated wording.
Attachment #470782 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #470782 - Flags: review?(abuchanan)
Note that patching product-details introduces new strings that will impact all of our locales pages and that will expose a link to a privacy policy that is in English. Does that mean that the privacy policy has to be translated in all of our languages? Our localizers are usually not very confortable translating legal texts and this is also a very long text.
r75931 pushes the changes in comment 15 to production. Leaving open to address the product-details patch and comment 17
Keywords: push-needed
Re Comment 17 - Legal is working on having the Firefox privacy policy translated into the top 10 languages. We hope to have this done prior to the launch of Firefox 4. Once these translation are ready, it would be great if the privacy policy link went to the right language for the version of Firefox being downloaded. We should default to English if there isn't a translation available. Is that workable? How should we make the translations available once they're ready?
Thanks so much for adding the link to the mozilla.com Firefox download button. I just noticed that the download button on this page: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/underthehood/ still has the release notes link and doesn't have the privacy policy link. Could that be fixed too?
Liz, is it ok if we make that fix on the refreshed site that's launching in December vs doing it for the current live site & the refreshed one? Btw, it's more of a global change than just the underthehood page...we have secondary download buttons like that on a bunch of pages.
Yes (unless someone else jumps in with the a strong opinion to the contrary).
Depends on: 614494
(In reply to comment #23) > Yes (unless someone else jumps in with the a strong opinion to the contrary). Filed bug 614494 to make this happen on the new site (launching 12/14).
Here's up updated patch that doesn't touch the 'Other Systems...' string and only addresses the Privacy Policy link.
Attachment #483993 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #499027 - Flags: review?(pascalc)
Comment on attachment 499027 [details] [diff] [review] Updated patch with Privacy Policy link change only (safe for l10n) the link to the privacy policy should not point to the English document: http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html should be: http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/ otherwise it will always fallback to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html even when we have the document translated and published. (This is caused by the bad filename of this document in the en-US folder, legacy naming dating back to when mozilla.com had no l10n)
Attachment #499027 - Flags: review?(pascalc) → review-
(In reply to comment #27) > the link to the privacy policy should not point to the English document: > http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html > should be: > http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/ This URL isn't specific to the Firefox privacy policy though, it includes links to both desktop and mobile policies. Liz, is that acceptable?
I think the two privacies are going to be merged but Liz can confirm
Yes, the two have been merged into one privacy policy for Firefox 4. The push of the new FF4 privacy policy is in Bug 603507. If that causes any complications or questions, let me know.
(In reply to comment #30) > Yes, the two have been merged into one privacy policy for Firefox 4. The push > of the new FF4 privacy policy is in Bug 603507. If that causes any > complications or questions, let me know. Is it ok if we link to http://www.mozilla.com/{$locale}/legal/privacy/ prior to the merge?
Probably, but what would the user experience be? Might it be better to make this bug dependent on Bug 603507?
Depends on: 603507
(In reply to comment #32) > Probably, but what would the user experience be? Might it be better to make > this bug dependent on Bug 603507? Good idea. I'll check back in when 603507 is in production.
Bug 603507 is in production. Can you now push the redesigned button that includes a link to the privacy policy?
Target Milestone: --- → 1.0
Pascal, am I right in assuming that we need a locale-agnostic URL to be able to make this Privacy Policy link in product-details? Right now, we have http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/ which lists all languages/versions (currently only HTML/text in English). The actual HTML/text versions are at: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.html http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox-en.txt
the link should be http://www.mozilla.com/LOCALECODE/legal/privacy/firefox.html, if the translation does not exist it will fallback to the en-US page. The translations will be stored in each locale folders, the English files should have the "-en" renamed. The list of available translations, if still needed, will be only at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/ I don't really know if the text only version is necessary though.
Target Milestone: 1.0 → 1.1
Assignee: nobody → steven
Initial move of firefox-en.html -> firefox.html is done in trunk in r81028. Still have lots of links to clean up throughout the site.
Updated the rest of the firefox-en.html links on mozilla.com to firefox.html (r81032 in trunk). Still to-do: update the product-details patch and add the firefox-en.html -> firefox.html redirect for external links.
Updated patch that drops the "-en" from the file name as per Pascal's suggestion.
Attachment #499027 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #504530 - Flags: review?(pascalc)
Redirect from firefox-en.html -> firefox.html added to trunk in r81034. Just need review on the patch to product-details now.
Comment on attachment 504530 [details] [diff] [review] Updated patch with Privacy Policy link change only (safe for l10n) r+ Note that there are also links built in javascript for en-US that should be updated, like: http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/en-US/firefox/index.html?revision=81046&view=markup#l62
Attachment #504530 - Flags: review?(pascalc) → review+
(In reply to comment #41) > Note that there are also links built in javascript for en-US that should be > updated... Thanks Pascal, I've updated the javascript links in r81194.
Everything is merged to stage in 81202. James, I'll need your help with the the patch (attachment 504530 [details] [diff] [review]) as I don't have commit access to the product-details lib.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 14 years ago
Keywords: qawanted
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Looks like I don't have access either. I'll file an IT bug for it.
committed patch to product-details r81477 | jlong@mozilla.com | 2011-01-24 18:00:39 -0500 (Mon, 24 Jan 2011) | 2 lines
I'm trying to figure out how the product-details repo gets updated on the live site, I have yet to find out though. need to know in order to roll this out tomorrow. anyone know?
It's an svn external, I can show you on IRC
this revision on staging updates the product-details library r81478 | jlong@mozilla.com | 2011-01-24 19:02:48 -0500 (Mon, 24 Jan 2011) | 1 line
Ok, here is the staging URL that still needs QA: https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html
This question may show my ignorance, but shouldn't it be the updated download button that needs QA, not the privacy policy itself?
Yep, you are you right. I wasn't looking too closely at the details of this bug. I'm not sure of all the download pages that were affected.
Here's an example of a page that currently does not have a link to the privacy policy under the download button: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/. Once your patch goes through QA, the download button on all pages will have the privacy policy link, right?
liz, You can see the changes on the staging site (https://www.authstage.mozilla.com): https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/ So yes, it does have the link.
(In reply to comment #54) > https://www.authstage.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/ links to > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html which is currently a > 404 This is a case where there are absolute URLs (including the full www.mozilla.com domain) because the same code is used on some of the international sites. As long as the authstage equivalent link exists and that gets pushed to production, we'll be fine.
Just curious, what are some of our international domains?
@James, mozilla-europe.org, mozillaonline.cn, mozilla.jp (Europe, China, Japan)
pushed to production r81588 | jlong@mozilla.com | 2011-01-25 14:37:01 -0500 (Tue, 25 Jan 2011) | 1 line
Thanks. It looks like the correction to the privacy policy page URL hasn't been pushed yet. Will that happen soon?
That's a different bug that got wrapped into the next release (1.2) to be released in 2 weeks (feb 8). If it needs to go out now, you can comment on the bug and increase its priority as a one-off bug to be pushed sooner.
Yes, this is a priority, but in trying it now, Liz found that the link worked. Has the link been updated?
The site takes a few minutes to update, so yes it probably had. I think I misread the comment and thought it was referring to a different change.
Great! Thanks.
Component: www.mozilla.org/firefox → www.mozilla.org
Component: www.mozilla.org → General
Product: Websites → www.mozilla.org
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