595485 - Remove Bloglines from the feed reader options

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Firefox Graveyard :: RSS Discovery and Preview, defect)

Description

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

It's official: Bloglines, my favorite online feed reader, will shut down on October 1, 2010.

We should remove it from the feed reader options.
http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/locales/en-US/chrome/browser-region/region.properties#10

This affects many locales:
http://mxr.mozilla.org/l10n-central/search?string=bloglines.com

Comment 1

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Kev, Mike, I guess there's no need to argue about removing a service going out of business, but I'd like you to confirm/ack.

Comment 2

[Phil Ringnalda (:philor)]

Attachment: en-US

Can't remember whether Ben ever said if it was Google that wanted to be last, or just that he wanted to avoid the appearance of impropriety when this was first added, not long after he went to work there, but at this point, nobody is saying "Bloglines is shutting down; My Yahoo! won" - it would be silly to make it the first option.

Horrible as the thought of 51 separate l10n bugs is, we probably should go that way: I wouldn't be surprised if some of the locales that put Netvibes first because Google Reader wasn't localized for them in 2007 have since gotten a localized version that would now be a better choice.

Comment 3

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

The EOL is imminent -- hope this gets fixed in Firefox 3.5.14, 3.6.11, 4 Beta 7.

Comment 4

[Kev Needham [:kev]]

ack'ed and agree it should come out. 72 locales. whee.

I'm not too worried about order, but will consult with the PSO team at Google.

Comment 5

[Kev Needham [:kev]]

also, fwiw, I don't look at this as being critical time-wise (e.g. a goal of 3.5.12 and the RC for 4 should be fine, and sooner if we can). it's not a great user experience, for sure, but if anyone has any numbers on what %age of our base (e.g. not using ourselves as a model ;) ) uses the aggregators, that'd help address priority. it just feels like it wouldn't affect a significant portion of users, but I'm always railing against thinking instead of knowing, so open to thoughts, there.

Comment 6

[LegNeato]

Though we want this fix on the branches, I'm not sure it should block a release. What is the user impact if it doesn't land on the branches by the next release?

Comment 7

[LegNeato]

(My main concern is that they will get a 404. Not sure how far ask is going to shut down the service...)

Comment 8

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

For l10n:

We'll try to focus on fixing this on 3.6.x as soon as we can by mass-landing the change across all locales. Kev, can you confirm that 3.5.x is a non-goal at this point (although it should be exactly the same procedure as for 3.6.x, so we can just as well do it)?

For 4.0, we're still evaluating options. We might elect to mass-land, too, or file individual bugs. Since 4.0 is the active branch, we want to know how a mass-change will affect the tools that the localizers use.

Comment 9

[Kev Needham [:kev]]

Since 3.5 is still not EoL'd, I think we should land it in both. I know it's a pain, but for consistency in UX and mitigation of user angst, it's probably a good idea. Let me know if you want/need any assistance.

Agree with Christian it's not a blocker (but that's just my opinion, fwiw :) ), but it's something we should try to address as soon as is reasonably possible.

Comment 10

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Kev, did you figure out what the order of My Yahoo! and Google should be?

Comment 11

[Kev Needham [:kev]]

My preference is to list them alphabetically, but waiting on confirmation. Will ping again.

Comment 12

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

(the r+ is conditional on sorting out the ordering, perhaps obviously)

Comment 13

[Phil Ringnalda (:philor)]

Comment on attachment 474480 [details] [diff] [review]
en-US

This'll probably remind me that I've only got a half an r+.

Comment 14

[Kev Needham [:kev]]

Comment on attachment 474480 [details] [diff] [review]
en-US

Good to go. Re-order ack'd by Google.

Comment 15

[Phil Ringnalda (:philor)]

Attachment: en-US branches

Same patch, different context.

Comment 16

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

Bloglines has extended their EOL date to November 1.

Comment 17

[Kev Needham [:kev]]

Thanks, Kohei. Don't think this has any impact on landing, but it's nice to get a little breathing room.

Comment 18

[LegNeato]

Comment on attachment 480485 [details] [diff] [review]
en-US branches

a=LegNeato for 1.9.2.12 and 1.9.1.15. Please land only on the mozilla-1.9.2 default branch and mozilla-1.9.1 default branch, *not* the relbranches.

Comment 19

[Phil Ringnalda (:philor)]

http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/590a0d21ea38
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/807ae106bc7e
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/rev/c309d22b23d6

Comment 20

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

Woot...

Exclusive: Bloglines Will Be Resurrected By IAC-Funded MerchantCircle
http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/04/exclusive-bloglines-will-be-resurrected-by-iac-funded-merchantcircle/

The patch should be backed out!