601122 - Focusring still appears if tab is used and then using mouse

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Core :: General, defect)

Description

[Emil Ivanov]

Attachment: testcase

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:2.0b7pre) Gecko/20101001 Firefox/4.0b7pre

Bug 418521 were supposed to fix the outlines when clicking with mouse, eg to not show the outline on mouse click. But it seems if the tab is used once and then using the mouse to drag or click elements the outlines is showing.

STR:
1. Focus input field with tab
3. Click on link

Result:
Outline on link appears on mouse click

Comment 1

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

Yes, that's by design.  See bug 418521 comment 34.  Note also bug 418521 comment 15, which describes this as the default behavior of Windows itself (at least on Windows XP).  Is that not the case?

Comment 2

[Emil Ivanov]

Yes I see the same on Windows 7 too, but in web pages there are a lot more complicated groups of elements and situations in which you can notice the ugly outline than in Windows itself.

I though the intention was to avoid this, not to follow the OS exactly in this case. I really dont see why the outline should be visible when the mouse is used.

Safari and Chrome dont show the outline on Windows following the STR.

Comment 3

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

The intention of bug 418521, at least, was to follow the OS-default behavior.

Now one can make the argument this behavior is broken for web pages (and I've said that about the Mac OS-default behavior, fwiw).  But that's a separate discussion.

Comment 4

[philippe (part-time)]

fwiw, on OS X 10.6 both Safari and Chrome (7 dev channel) do not show an outline on the link with the STR for the testcase.
Full Keyboard Access turned on in the system prefs.

Comment 5

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

philippe, this behavior is totally different on Mac for all browsers, Firefox included.  This bug is specifically about the Windows behavior.

Comment 6

[philippe (part-time)]

(In reply to comment #5)
> philippe, this behavior is totally different on Mac for all browsers, Firefox
> included.  This bug is specifically about the Windows behavior.

Minefield Mac exhibits the same behaviour as described in comment 0, which is different than what WebKit does. Does that needs its own bug then ?

Comment 7

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

If you think the Mac behavior should change, then yes.

Comment 8

[philippe (part-time)]

(In reply to comment #7)
> If you think the Mac behavior should change, then yes.

filed bug 601321

Comment 9

[Jennifer Morrow [:Boriss] (UX)]

By showing the focus ring on clicked area on Windows, we're being consistent with Windows.  By not showing the focus ring on clicked area in OSX, we're being consistent on OSX.  Consistency with native operating system is the goal here, so unless any of the focus behavior isn't consistent, I think this is doesn't require a behavior change.