73734 - change fonts used by Fizzilla Modern skin

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(SeaMonkey :: Themes, enhancement)

Description

[J Luh]

I don't so much like the fonts used by the Fizzilla Modern skin. The font used
in the location bar and in prefs is so-so, and the font used in the status bar
is plain ugly. Are there other fonts that could be used?

Comment 1

[Zach Lipton [:zach]]

Not completely sure if this is valid. Pinkerton?

Comment 2

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

yet another "modern font is ugly" bug.

Comment 3

[Joe Hewitt (gone)]

At this point, if you don't like the way fonts look under the Modern theme,
don't blame the theme.  The CSS specifies the correct fonts, and it's up to the
style system to get the right fonts at the right size from the OS.

Comment 4

[J Luh]

Re: the previous comment: What are the "correct" fonts? Could it be that the
fonts specified by the skin are not available in Mac OS X, or look bad in Mac OS X?

Comment 5

[Pierre Saslawsky]

My guess is that nsDeviceContextMac::GetSystemAttribute() needs to be revisited 
for OS-X.

Otherwise, the fonts are specified in macprefs.js.  Look for these 4 lines...
   pref("font.name.serif.x-unicode", "Times");
   pref("font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode", "Helvetica");
   pref("font.name.serif.x-western", "Times");
   pref("font.name.sans-serif.x-western", "Helvetica");
Maybe we need a different prefs file for OS-X, or different font names that would 
work on OS-9 and OS-X.

Mike, could you look into it?  If you don't find anything in the Mac-specific 
code (gfx or prefs), reassign to peterl or attinasi.

Comment 6

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

spreading the pain.

Comment 7

[Pierre Saslawsky]

Marking dependency on bug 61883 "Smarter default prefs for the 5 basic CSS fonts" 
because the format of these prefs will soon change, supporting several font names 
to be specified.

Comment 8

[Terence Tan]

Looks like we're using Lucida Grande for the Modern fonts, for the location bar,
prefs, status bar, buttons, everything in fact? If so, I'm not sure what the
issue is; Lucida Grande is the font to use for UI, in my humble opinion.

Perhaps what would improve things would be bug 74245 -- using Quartz to render
fonts would make Mozilla's text look nicer, more like the menu bar text, title
bar, etc.

Comment 9

[Terence Tan]

Oop, looking back on the timestamps, it's quite possible that since the reporter
found the bug, a whole new Modern theme had landed :-)

[e-mail], how do you like the current Modern fonts?

Comment 10

[J Luh]

Attachment: screen shot

Comment 11

[J Luh]

I've attached a screen shot showing what it looks like on my computer. 
Still pretty ugly, particularly the asymmetrical w's. 

I don't know if using Quartz would fix it, but is Quartz font rendering likely to 
show up soon? If not, I suggest using a different font that looks better 
when bitmapped like this.

Comment 12

[J Luh]

It looks like the font being used is Lucida Grande, as Terence Tan noted
2001-06-18. However, since Lucida Grande is meant to be used with Quartz font
rendering, it doesn't look so attractive. How about changing the font to Geneva
or another font that looks better with the old Mac rendering?

Comment 13

[Greg K.]

Terence Tan has the right idea. Lucida Grande is the right font to use for OS X
UI things. Using the Quartz 2D api will improve the appearance of that font.

Therefore, this bug should not depend on 61883, but rather 74245 as Terence
suggests.

Comment 14

[Steve Dagley]

re-assigning to modern owner

Comment 15

[J Luh]

In my opinion, Geneva looks slightly better than Lucida Grande as the font.
Verdana looks even better, though I don't think it is preinstalled by the system.

If you don't intend to change the font, however, feel free to mark this bug invalid.

Comment 16

[Joe Hewitt (gone)]

Mass reassigning some of my theme bugs to Shuehan.

Comment 17

[Asa Dotzler [:asa]]

Bugs targeted at mozilla1.0 without the mozilla1.0 keyword moved to mozilla1.0.1 
(you can query for this string to delete spam or retrieve the list of bugs I've 
moved)

Comment 18

[shliang]

-> andrew

Comment 19

[Christopher Hoess (gone)]

adjusting dependency, -> Themes

Comment 20

[Greg K.]

*** Bug 134506 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 21

[J Luh]

This is no longer applicable since Mozilla now uses system anti-aliasing on Mac
OS X (bug 149427).