Closed Bug 796062 Opened 12 years ago Closed 11 years ago

[ta] Localize Get Involved page + video + email responses

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(www.mozilla.org :: L10N, defect)

Product:
www.mozilla.org
Component:
L10N
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

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(Not tracked)

Status:
VERIFIED FIXED

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(Reporter: davidwboswell, Assigned: flod)

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(6 files, 2 obsolete files)

updated tamil translation file
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updated tamil translation file
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Reference text
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Compared versions
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Updated Tamil banner
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Pointer to Github pull request: https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/961
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Opening bug to track creating a localization of the Get Involved page with Gauthamraj as the point person.
Summary: [ta-IN] Localize Get Involved page + video + email responses → [ta] Localize Get Involved page + video + email responses
OS: Mac OS X → All
Hardware: x86 → All
Any news on this one?
Hi,
  Where I can find the file to translate? Any help..! Thanks in advance!
Tamil translations updated. Pls commit the same. Thanks!
Thanks, committed in r116076.

I'll have to ask if this everything is needed to close this bug, I'll comment here as soon as I know more.
Hi again Shantha,
I've added one file to your locale folder
https://svn.mozilla.org/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/locales/ta/mozorg/15years.lang

To complete this bug there are a few more steps, but you have to discuss them with other members of Tamil community.

1) Some locales use auto-responses to handle contribution inquiries that come in through the form. Some locales do this manually, so they don't localize those files (that's why I didn't copy to your locale folder)

http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/locales/en-GB/templates/mozorg/emails/

2) We need a contact email for the locale to send the contribution inquiries too. Most local communities set up an alias instead of sending all the email to one person.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Point_people#By_Locale
Updated tamil translation.. Pls commit the same!
Hi Anyone from Tamil Team,
Pls suggest me on what to do next about this bug..
File committed in r116110. 

I've also CCed :arky who's usually working with l10n communities in the area and probably has more information about Tamil community ;-)
Flags: needinfo?(hitmanarky)
Shantha,

Since you translated the strings, this bug has to be closed ...
Thanks Arun! Francesco.. is it closable now?
(In reply to Arun Prakash from comment #11)
> Shantha,
> Since you translated the strings, this bug has to be closed ...

Arun, take a look at comment 7

What about mails and auto-responses? That wiki page list gauthamraj as recipient without auto-responses.
Looping in Tamil L10N team mentor Jeff Beatty.
Flags: needinfo?(hitmanarky)
So friends... Any update on this bug?
(In reply to Shantha kumar from comment #15)
> So friends... Any update on this bug?

Hi Shantha,

Thanks for translating these strings. As flod mentions in comment 7 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796062#c7), there's more to this bug than translating strings. You, Arun, Gauthamraj, and the rest of the Tamil team need to discuss how your team will handle inquiries that come to you from the [ta] Get Involved page and who will field those inquiries to join the Tamil community. The Tamil mailing list would be the place to start this discussion (http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/#dev-l10n-ta). I'll kick it off. Once you all have come to a decision, please comment it in this bug and reference it back to the mailing list thread.

Thanks,
Jeff
Hi Jeff,
 Thanks for your information. Will wait till any Tamil members pitch into the discussion and add any suggestions. Thanks!
Attached image Localized graphics (Lee Tom) (obsolete) — 
Hi, I need the Tamil team to confirm if the attached banner is correct ;-)
Attached image Reference text — 
Hi Francesco,
The text in the banner has some rendering issue. The correct rendering should display this text:
சிறந்த இணையத்தின் 
15 ஆண்டுகள்

(attached image for your reference)
- Thanks!
(In reply to Shantha kumar from comment #19)
> (attached image for your reference)

Thanks Shantha, I'll ping the author. Any update on the mail?
Flags: needinfo?(ltom)
Francesco No luck yet :)
Hi Francesco and Shantha ,
Sorry for jumping into this late. Regarding the mail id to receive queries , I am willing to get the queries into my inbox ( if everyone is ok ) . Also , I have the rights to send e-mail as join@mozillaindia.org from my personal gmail account. So , if everyone is ok you can use this mail id vallavan2valluvan@gmail.com

Thanks ,
Hi Gautham, 
  Thanks for your suggestion! 
Francesco, Jeff Pls consider Gautham's suggestion and let us try to close the bug :)
Please make me clear that is the contribution related to l10n or in general.
All contribution requests will be sent to this mail, they're related to several sectors. See the complete list "Area of interest" here https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/
Other than localisation and translation we can have the email mentioned above by Gautham.
For localisation and translation we can give tamil l10n mailing list address.
AFAIK we can have only one address, and I don't suggest to use a mailing list, you'll spam all subscribers on each form submission. 

My suggestion would be to create an alias or a specific mail, maybe controlled by more people, to collect all requests.
Hey Arun and Francesco ,

All the contribution request recieved to my mail id , will be forwarded to the experts in the desired area of contribution. So , if I get any localization related queries I can make sure it is forwarded to people involved with localization or to the mailing group. Hope this works :)

Thanks , 

Gautham
Ok ... Will go with Gautham idea.
(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #27)
> AFAIK we can have only one address, and I don't suggest to use a mailing
> list, you'll spam all subscribers on each form submission. 

For reference, bug 796845 is about allowing multiple contacts in a local based on the areas of interest.  That should make it easier to share the duty of helping new people get involved.

As a work-around, many teams are using aliases and we can switch to that here if it becomes difficult having all inquiries go directly to one person.  Just one thing to note here -- mail coming from this page can't go to a public mailing list for privacy reasons, so any alias would need to be accessible to just those people on that alias.
We dont have any such alias.. if you or Jeff can help us in crating a one, it will be good.
(In reply to Arun Prakash from comment #31)
> We dont have any such alias.. if you or Jeff can help us in crating a one,
> it will be good.

David might have a better idea than myself. David, how might we go about getting these guys an email alias? What has worked well for other l10n teams?
Flags: needinfo?(dboswell)
(In reply to jbeatty from comment #32)
> David might have a better idea than myself. David, how might we go about
> getting these guys an email alias? What has worked well for other l10n teams?

There are a few different options:

* Some local communities have domains they use for a website (like mozilla-hispano.org) and they can create email addresses using that domain.

* You could also ask Mozilla IT to set up an alias using the mozilla.org domain, so something like contribute-ta@mozilla.org.  

* You could also set up a Google Group and mark everything private so that only people you subscribe to that address can see the emails coming in.

The main difference among these is how you want to administer things.
Flags: needinfo?(dboswell)
Hi All ,
I feel third option is easier and can be setup quickly. Others , what do you think ?
Attached image Updated Tamil banner (obsolete) — 
Hi Shantha,
can you confirm me if the attached file is ok? I tried to compare your text with the existing graph, I hope this one is correct.
Attachment #755196 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Flags: needinfo?(ltom) → needinfo?(shantha.thamizh)
Sorry Francesco, Again the issue is there.. It is related to rendering it seems.

Issues are with second character of the second word of the first line
                and third character of the second word (Which follows the number '15') of the second line
Flags: needinfo?(shantha.thamizh)
Attached image Compared versions — 
This is proving a lot more difficult than I expected.

I copied and pasted the text from your comment in Photoshop and I got the same result of Lee, that's why I didn't understand (the only differences I saw were the missing dots on the last letters).

I tried to put together the two versions to highlight the differences. Did I spot them all?
In this attached image,there are 4 words (including the number '15')

1st word - Fine

2nd character of 2nd word - Wrong (the order is jumbled) (you marked well)

Last character of of 2nd word ("இணையத்தின்") - Dot missing above (you have not marked)

3rd word (the number '15') - Fine

2nd character of 4th word ("ஆ[ண்]டுகள்") - Position of dot is not appropriate (it should be centered above the character) (You marked it)

3rd character of 4th word ("ஆண்[டு]கள்") - Shape is different (may be rendering or font difference issue) (you marked it)

5th character of 4th word ("ஆண்டுக[ள்]") - Dot missing above the character
Thanks Shantha, I used Lee's version instead of mine (where I added the final dots).

It's definitely a problem on Mac: if I copy and paste டு, I get those two symbols (while in Firefox it works fine).
Welcome :) It's fine is the final output which attacks the end users' eyes is error free :)
Attached image Updated Tamil banner — 
New try, it should be ok. Shantha, can you confirm?
Attachment #758405 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Flags: needinfo?(shantha.thamizh)
Yes ok ...
Flags: needinfo?(shantha.thamizh)
(In reply to Gauthamraj from comment #34)
> Hi All ,
> I feel third option is easier and can be setup quickly. Others , what do you
> think ?

Did you reach a decision? Now that the banner is ready, I need to know which mail address you want to use (e.g. is vallavan2valluvan@gmail.com is ok).
Hi Arun & Gautham,
  Please suggest our option here. Thanks!
Hey Francesco , 

As Arun is happy with my suggestion in comment 28. You can go on adding my mail address vallavan2valluvan@gmail.com for now. Once we get a lot queries we can go for alias or a group.

Thanks , 

Gautham
Assigning to me, at least I'll remember to check when production is updated.
Assignee: nobody → francesco.lodolo
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/38845c3d3f786d868fee6e0e51d87e04d8984e3a
[l10n] Bug 796062: Get Involved page for Tamil (ta)

* Add Tamil (ta) to LOCALES_WITH_MOZ15.
* Add Tamil's contact to LOCALE_CONTACTS, minor fixes (proper
alphabetical order, fixed alignment on first item).
* Add localized banner to media and css.
* Add CSS fixes for slides 2, 10, 14, 15 (text displayed out of
background)

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/ca7d6cfa93b9a9fb92e918005c3553af324f9deb
Merge pull request #961 from flodolo/bug796062-tamil-15years
fixed on stage https://www.allizom.org/ta/contribute/
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 11 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
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