856922 - [ar] Localize Get Involved page + video + email responses

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: L10N, defect)

Description

[David Boswell]

Bug to track the localization of the Get Involved page and related assets into Arabic.

Assets are not in place yet -- Brian or Pascal will let you know as soon as they are.

More about the strings to localize are at

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Funnels#By_Locale

More information about managing a localized contribution funnel is at:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute#Contribution_Funnels

Comment 1

[Brian King [:kinger]]

I've setup the files in SVN for ar:

http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/locales/ar/mozorg/

http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/locales/ar/templates/mozorg/emails/

Note the email templates are customisable, you can customise them and add/change to information about your local community.

We'll need an email address that will receive emails from the form on the page. I recommend an alias where a few community members are on, so as to share the work in triaging the emails.

More information on the process:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Funnels/Process

Once the files are checked in, you can see the result at:

https://www-dev.allizom.org/ar/contribute/

Comment 2

[Ahmed Nefzaoui [:Nefzaoui]]

So the video also needs to be localized.. Humm I wonder... Should it be made in Arabic from the ground up.. or just hardcode subtitles ?

Comment 3

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Hi Ahmed, right now the video is not localizable (bug 769715). When it is, it will be subtitled. 

But if you want to help there are two files that need to be translated (contribute.lang and 15years.lang) ;-)

Comment 4

[Ahmed Nefzaoui [:Nefzaoui]]

I see.. Alright Thanx, We're currently working on them in our community.. Will be ready ASAP. :)

Comment 5

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

I see you've localized 15years.lang in bug 944732.

To move this bug forward we need two things.
1) an email address for your community where all request will be directed. Ideally an alias, not a public mailing list (privacy issues)

2) we need to create a custom banner, hoping I won't have problems with Arabic fonts.

The banner will look like this
https://mozorg.cdn.mozilla.net/media/img/contribute/mozilla15/moz15-mark-it.png

I must confess that my knowledge of RTL languages is pretty limited. Is this string OK for the banner?

> 15 سنة من وب أفضل

Comment 6

[Youghourta Benali]

I prefer this one
15 سنة من ويبٍ أفضل

Could you please send me a blank banner and I'll add the text to it

thanks

Comment 7

[Ahmed Nefzaoui [:Nefzaoui]]

Hello..
For the email:
[e-mail]

Also I see no harm in
> 15 سنة من وب أفضل
In fact it's the best expression we could use.
Just make sure that "15" is on the right not as bugzilla shows it (on the left).

Comment 8

[Youghourta Benali]

it's not commonly used, even though is better than the one I suggested,

but we can make your proposition better by adding "Tashkeel" to it

15 سنة من وَبٍ أفضل

Comment 9

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: Empty banner

Comment 10

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: Empty banner with the number 15

Comment 11

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: Arabic test banner

Comment 12

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: Generate test

This is basically what I had to do with another locale unsupported by font/Photoshop: create a web HTML page with the red background (#EA3B28), drop shadow (3px vertical, color #7A1414), copy and paste the text on the blank banner.

Feel free to do all the tests you need. Once finished we'll need to check the page for RTL issues.

Comment 13

[Ahmed Nefzaoui [:Nefzaoui]]

Here's Mack, Mozilla Tunisia's Designer. I don't know how it all began but sometime ago we were asked to provide an Arabic version of the banner.
So I asked him to do it since he's experienced with Arabic designs and he did.
Maybe he can provide us his ready example ? :) Or better uses the empty banner to do it again ? :)

Youghourta can you add the text you too ? :) Let's see which one is more accurate.

Thank you :)

Comment 14

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #5)
> To move this bug forward we need two things.

Sorry, there's also the main file to localize (contribute.lang). Not sure why it wasn't tracked, while 15years.lang was. I've added it now, webdashboard should catch up in 15 minutes.

Comment 15

[Youghourta Benali]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #3)
> Hi Ahmed, right now the video is not localizable (bug 769715). When it is,
> it will be subtitled. 
> 
> But if you want to help there are two files that need to be translated
> (contribute.lang and 15years.lang) ;-)
Hi  Francesco,

Both contribute.lang and 15years.lang are now completely translated into Arabic (I just finished the translation)

Comment 16

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Thanks Youghourta. 

I think this page is going to receive an update very soon, losing the 15 years template. If there are problems with RTL, we'll need to enable the old template and try to fix them on the next one.

At this point we still need two items as explained in comment 5:
* mandatory: an email address to receive requests from the online form
* localized banner (see comment 12). We can also decide to use the English one to speed things up, considering the graphic will stay online only a few weeks.

Comment 17

[Youghourta Benali]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #16)
> Thanks Youghourta. 
> 
> I think this page is going to receive an update very soon, losing the 15
> years template. If there are problems with RTL, we'll need to enable the old
> template and try to fix them on the next one.
> 
> At this point we still need two items as explained in comment 5:
> * mandatory: an email address to receive requests from the online form
> * localized banner (see comment 12). We can also decide to use the English
> one to speed things up, considering the graphic will stay online only a few
> weeks.

Ahmed has already given you this email address  [e-mail] (comment 7) and your banner (comment 11) looks pretty good

Comment 18

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Ouch, I missed it. Great, I'll start doing some tests locally and try to create a pull request.

Comment 19

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: Pull request to enable Contribute page

I think there are some issues, not sure we'll have time to fix them, but at least I'll have data to evaluate the new design.

Slides: does it make sense that move next is "move right"? Should it be "move left" = "move ahead"?

List of Interest areas, image remains on the left instead of being on the right, which I think should be the correct position.

Comment 20

[Youghourta Benali]

Indeed, the images should be on the right.

Comment 21

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

I'm sure there are other issues (for example checkboxes), but can you confirm if these changes are correct?
https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/1600#issuecomment-32833990

Comment 22

[Youghourta Benali]

It looks pretty good to me!

Comment 23

[Youghourta Benali]

BTW, which checkboxes are you talking about?

Comment 24

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

It appears when you select an area in the contact form, and the square is always on the left. Checking if I can this that too.

Comment 25

[[github robot]]

Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/5d1ae2aa2fca1e1af23b320e5461a874b0901ec7
Bug 856922 - Enable Contribute page for Arabic

* Add email address to LOCALE_CONTACTS
* Add locale to LOCALES_WITH_MOZ15
* Add custom banner (css rule+png file)
* CSS rtl:
** fix buttons in nav (font too small, margins), areas of interest (order of elements)
** fix form fields order
** fix checkbox in subscription section

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/5f8f9362d98f5985f2fde9db38fa71a5a518a1f1
Merge pull request #1600 from flodolo/bug856922_getinvolved_ar

Bug 856922 - Enable Contribute page for Arabic, improve CSS for RTL

Comment 26

[raymond [:retornam] (inactive)]

fixed on stage https://www.allizom.org/ar/contribute/