906482 - User expectation when viewing zone content

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(developer.mozilla.org Graveyard :: General, defect)

Description

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

As a user, I expect that any content present within a zone shall maintain the style, flow, and experience intended within the zone. I do not want to feel like I am bouncing around, make the content adapt to the zone.

Comment 1

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

Actually, this is not currently happening in the App Center Zone. Luke, any idea?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Apps/Apps_zone

Comment 2

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

Looks like this is the problem: The Zone sub-pages are not true sub-pages of the Zone landing page right now. Luke, can you confirm that the style remains consistent for pages that are /true/ sub-pages of a Zone? If so, we can close this bug.

Comment 3

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

(In reply to John Karahalis [:openjck] from comment #2)
> Looks like this is the problem: The Zone sub-pages are not true sub-pages of
> the Zone landing page right now. Luke, can you confirm that the style
> remains consistent for pages that are /true/ sub-pages of a Zone? If so, we
> can close this bug.

Yes, the subnav links point to pages outside the zone. So, no, those pages will not participate in zone style or subnav.

Would like to see that happen in a real working zone before we close this bug. We've already seen zone functionality working in tests & spot checks.

Comment 4

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

Looks like it works.

Main page: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:openjck/subpage
Subpage: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:openjck/subpage

Comment 5

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

Correction:

Main page: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:openjck
Subpage: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:openjck/subpage

Comment 6

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

(In reply to John Karahalis [:openjck] from comment #5)
> Correction:
> 
> Main page: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:openjck
> Subpage: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:openjck/subpage

Yeah, that's what I meant by we've seen it work in testing and in spot-checks :)

Comment 7

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

For example, :groovecoder already tried it here

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/User:groovecoder/Subcoder

I'm saying I'd like to see how it works out with a real zone before we close this bug

Comment 8

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

Er, didn't mean to mark this unconfirmed. I'll just reclose it again I guess, but would really like to see this working in a real zone to satisfy the "user expectation" part

Comment 9

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

Thanks Les, I will make a note to verify this once the Apps page is up.

Comment 10

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

Les, you can test it out here. Does this look good to you?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps

Comment 11

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

I think so? Is that what the zone's supposed to look like? (I'm not sure)

Comment 12

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

Visually, yes. The content team finished up their side. Just wanted to make sure the zone was keeping its style as you expected and as in comment 0.

Comment 13

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

Also, the zone's not actually at /en-US/Apps, yet: No url_root is set for the zone.

The URL /en-US/Apps redirects to /en-US/docs/Apps, which redirects to /en-US/docs/Web/Apps

Comment 14

[John Karahalis [:openjck]]

But this will be fixed with bug 912084, right?

Comment 15

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

(In reply to John Karahalis [:openjck] from comment #14)
> But this will be fixed with bug 912084, right?

No, the url_root needs to be set for the zone to manually choose the new URL for the zone. The remap machinery is already there from bug 912084.

Comment 16

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

Beyond the url_root, though, the zone nav and style seem to be carrying through as expected:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Apps/Quickstart/Design/Design_Principles

Comment 17

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

To be more clear about the url_root thing and what bug 912084 offers...

The Persona zone has an url_root:
    https://developer.mozilla.org/admin/wiki/documentzone/19/

So, it's served up with no redirects here:
    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Persona

The Apps zone does *not* have url_root set, yet:
    https://developer.mozilla.org/admin/wiki/documentzone/23/

So, it's served up with no redirects here:
    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Apps

To move the Apps zone to /en-US/Apps with no redirects, set the url_root to "Apps"

I assume that's where we want it, but I didn't want to just unilaterally change that myself