106998 - msn.com - detects NS7 but not Mozilla - Differing table layouts on msn.com

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: English US, defect, P3)

Description

[Jeremy Wrinkle]

From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Win32; en-US; 0.9.5) Netscape6/6.5
BuildID:    2001101603

 Ok, I am uploading a copy of msn.com, without the XHTML doctype and namspace,
so Mozilla will not try to render Microsoft's **** code strictly. 
 There is a difference in how MSIE and Mozilla render the page still. In the
page there is an MSNBC section, CNBC section, Shopping section, and Specials
section. In MSIE, the sections are rendered side-by-side

1 2
3 4

In Mozilla, they are rendered on top of each other

1
2
3
4

The question is: Which browser is rendering it right? Is this a Mozilla bug or
an MSIE bug?


Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Load file
2. Read it
3. Laugh

Actual Results:  n/a

Expected Results:  n/a

Comment 1

[Jeremy Wrinkle]

Attachment: MSN.com, minus the XHTML doctype and namespace

Comment 2

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

*** Bug 107105 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 3

[RC]

Opera renders it similar to Mozilla --
MS pumps out a different version depending on which browser you use.

This is most likely not a bug.

Comment 4

[RC]

Attachment: Screenshot of MSN.COM that MS sends to Opera users (see duped 107105 for NS/IE screenshots)

Comment 5

[Mats Palmgren (inactive)]

Attachment: Testcase (distilled from msn.com)

Comment 6

[Mats Palmgren (inactive)]

They are using CSS class ids comprised of digits only, for example class="800",
which is invalid. Reassigning to Evangelism.

Comment 7

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

pretty minor issue methinks. -> p3

Comment 8

[Kai Lahmann (is there, where MNG is)]

only problem left I can see is the topright corner

Comment 9

[Damian Yerrick]

MSN (http://www.msn.com/) has drastically changed its layout since this
bug was filed.  The new layout looks nearly identical in Mozilla 1.1 and
IE 5.5.

However, when IE is resized smaller than 800x600, it redoes much of the
layout to accommodate the smaller window.  Mozilla fails to do so.

(I'm rummaging through the Microsoft.com tracker bug 114158 due to
recent changes in the behavior of 141279 and bug 145177.  To filter
messages related to this activity, search for "tepplesmsn200209".)

Comment 10

[Doron Rosenberg (IBM)]

Some minor css diffrences on :hover, can't find anything else. wfm?

Comment 11

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

tech evang june 2003 reorg

Comment 12

[M. Bahabib]

Update on this bug since Comment #9 & Comment #10 which were in 2002:

I noticed this rendering bug with the latest nightly builds of Firebird
(Gecko/20030714). It still does not render Top Headlines, Money, Shopping &
Entertainment sections side-by-side. It also does not highlight and underline links.
 
Interestingly, Netscape 7.1 (Gecko/20030624), based on Mozilla 1.4, does render
all the page correctly indicating Comment #3 might be right.

We should really try getting this fixed as MSN is such a frequently used site.

Comment 13

[M. Bahabib]

OS -> ALL

Comment 14

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

http://www.msn.com/contactus.ashx

This is a server side detection issue. Changing the UA to NS7.1 fixes the
layout. I contacted them at the form above.

Comment 15

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

no action at all.

Comment 16

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

Mozilla 1.7 with a Mozilla 1.7 ua looks the same as Mozilla 1.7 with a NS7.1 ua.
-> Fixed.