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Bug 109415
Opened 22 years ago
Closed 21 years ago
investigate default memory cache size
Categories
(Core :: Networking: Cache, defect)
Core
Networking: Cache
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VERIFIED
FIXED
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(Reporter: cathleennscp, Assigned: gordon)
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Details
(Keywords: perf)
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We should start put in some time to investigate our defult memory cache size, to determine whether if we should make it an adjustible value base on the size of physical memory. Also, something else to consider... should we have a fixed upper bound and lower bound. hyatt has proven that if you increase memory cache, our page-load performance gets boosted. need QA help on this one...
Comment 1•22 years ago
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this sounds like a dupe of bug 105344 filed by hyatt.
It does sound like bug 105344 although we could use this bug report to track the QA test progress/results until we have final results to post to the other bug. cathleen - when do you need this by? I'll ask tever/jrgm/kerz to get some QA investigation into this and to make sure the approach is what you're looking for before we start the measurements.
sometime within the 0.9.7 time frame if that's doable. :-)
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla0.9.7
Moving to 0.9.8. Tom or John or Barrett, will you have the cycles to assist on this one to generate some data?
Target Milestone: mozilla0.9.7 → mozilla0.9.8
Comment 5•22 years ago
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yes, I could take a look at this but it will have to be after the holiday season if that's ok
tom, if you are going to look into this, pls assign it to you. Thanks!
Comment 8•22 years ago
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Ok, so I started running some tests using John's page loader tool and got some interesting results. The test machine was a 450Mhz P3 with 128M ram and Win NT4. Build id was 2002012503. Mem cache size was variable and disk cache left at its default of 50000. Between runs the machine was restarted to clear out any video memory that might be in use, all processes were closed, a new profile created and used, and the sidebar was closed. First run numbers: Size Avg. Median Average Sequence 2048 1094 1120 7 4096 1084 1111 1 8192 1100 1125 8 12280 1111 1136 9 16384 1110 1132 2 24576 1131 1152 10 32768 888 953 3 49152 893 959 4 65538 898 1034 5 81922 891 968 6 I am not sure what it means yet but the numbers are showing a slight degredation in performance going from a 4M cache to a 24M cache. Then after 32M there is a jump in performance presumably from all of the test pages being entirely cached. The sequence number is just the order in which the test was run and didn't seem to matter. The second set of tests were run on the same machine. The only difference was that the mem cache was adjusted from 4M to 28M in 4M increments. Size Avg. Median Average Sequence 4096 1094 1122 7 8192 1105 1130 6 12280 1107 1131 5 16384 1120 1145 4 20480 1130 1152 3 24576 1139 1157 2 28672 1138 1150 1 Attaching graphs.
Comment 9•22 years ago
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Comment 10•22 years ago
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Comment 11•22 years ago
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There was some concern over whether this was a valid test for default cache size performance but I am not sure of a better way to test this. Please add any comments/suggestions.
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Comment 12•22 years ago
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I would expect a slight degradation in performance as the memory cache capacity is raised until it becomes large enough for the entire test to remain resident. The more items in the cache, the longer it takes to access any given item (though the incremental cost should be very small since we're using a fairly efficient hash table). These results appear to be consistant with that. It would be good to run the iBench test with the same system. We might get more meaningful numbers. Also, we need startup times, to spot any unintended side-effects of changing the default memory cache size. Thanks Tom. This is a good start.
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Comment 13•22 years ago
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tever, thanks for supplying this initial set of data. This is a good start!! :-) The purpose of this bug is to find out the most optimal memory cache size for various physical memory constraint. So, the same test needs to be done on machines with 32MB, 64MB, 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB physical memory.
Comment 14•22 years ago
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with this test I can not tell what the optimal mem cache size would be for my 128M system so I don't see any reason to run it on other systems just yet. According to the graph, it would be any size above the point where the whole test is cached but that doesn't seem correct. I will try ibench next to see if there is any difference.
Comment 15•22 years ago
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tom: agreed. and fwiw, many bios' allow you to specify a reduced memory size. or, if you are running these tests on linux, you can tell the kernel how much memory of the available ram to use. there is a kernel parameter that you can specify at boot time. let me know if you want help setting this up.
Comment 16•21 years ago
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I ran the ibench (actually minibench) tests last night on the isolated LAN in the networking lab. The results are not revealing anything but I will post them anyway. I'm thinking that the entire test was probably cached early on so this also may not be a good tool for testing default mem cache size. The system was a Dell R450 PII, 256M ram, NT4 OS. Build id 2002092408. Size 1st loop avg subsequent loop total (number of loops = 4) ---- -------- ------------------- --------- 2048 28.4 s 26.9 s 109.3 s 4096 28.5 27.0 109.6 8192 28.6 27.0 109.5 12280 28.4 27.1 109.6 16384 28.5 26.9 109.0 24576 28.7 27.0 109.7 37768 28.4 26.8 108.8 49152 28.6 26.9 109.3 65538 28.4 27.1 109.6 81922 28.5 26.9 109.4
Comment 17•21 years ago
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cathleen: Darin mentioned that you were possibly going to have jrgm modify his performance tests to step back and forwards through pages. Do you know if this is going to happen. It might prove to be a better tool for investigating this bug.
Comment 18•21 years ago
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I have worked on a back/forward test. I should dig that up and finish testing it. As for the above results, looks like the size is moot for the given test.
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Comment 19•21 years ago
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Tom, you ran the iBench tests on a fast network, right? If that's the case, I guess I'm not too surprised that we see little advantage to using the cache. That fact that performance doesn't vary with changes in cache capacity, suggests that the time to pull and image out of http's disk cache and decode it is on par with pulling an already decoded image out of the memory cache. I find that hard to believe. I would also be surprised if the entire iBench test can fit in a 2Meg memory cache. I'm not really sure what to make of those numbers.
Updated•21 years ago
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Target Milestone: mozilla0.9.8 → ---
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Comment 21•21 years ago
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This bug is essentially fixed with the landing of the fix for bug 105344. Marking FIXED.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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