Closed Bug 116441 Opened 23 years ago Closed 22 years ago

[clickSelectsAll] should not trigger if click is after end of URL

Categories

(SeaMonkey :: Location Bar, defect)

PowerPC
Mac System 9.x
defect
Not set
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

RESOLVED FIXED
mozilla1.1alpha

People

(Reporter: sfraser_bugs, Assigned: hewitt)

References

(Blocks 1 open bug)

Details

(Keywords: polish, Whiteboard: [adt3])

Attachments

(2 files, 1 obsolete file)

Our click-select behaviour in the URL bar is wrong, for a number of reasons. First, I'll describe the usability problems that I see. There are 2 gestures that I do frequently that we currently respond to in a bad way: 1. Click in or after the url, and try to drag around to select alast part of it (e.g. the filename, or a bug number from a bugzilla URL). On my first mouse down, we select the entire URL, so I have to release and click again to do a selection. Bad. 2. Click after the url, and hit backspace to remove the last part of the url. Again, on my first mouse down, we select the entire URL, so I have to click a second time to get it to do what I want. I think we should do two things: 1. Only ever select the entire URL on a mouse *up*, and then only do it if the mouse was not moved (much) between the mouse down and mouse up. 2. (Optionally?) never select the entire URL if the mouse was clicked after the end of the URL.
Maybe fixing this would also see the infurating "single click in the middle of the url selects from the beginning of the url to the mouse position", which I see many times a day (on mac OS X as well as linux).
I agree with suggestion (1), which is what IE and 4.x do on Mac, but I think (2) might seem inconsistent. I wish we could do (1) on Windows too, but it is a behavior shared by all the popular browsers there, hence most people expect it, right or wrong. Nominating for nsbeta1, cc marlon.
Keywords: nsbeta1
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla1.2
nsbeta1+ per Nav triage team
Keywords: nsbeta1nsbeta1+
nsbeta1- per ADT
Keywords: nsbeta1+nsbeta1-
Big sigh. Will we never get the details right? ->1.1
Target Milestone: mozilla1.2 → mozilla1.1
Whiteboard: DUPEME
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 62495 ***
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 23 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
*** Bug 134649 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
verify dupe
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Reopening because the bug it was marked as a dup of was fixed, but only addressed half of the reporter's request (part 1). Updating the summary to reflect part 2. Editorial: This is an elegant compromise that still violates HIG (bug 134639), but does it in a way to make most people happy. It makes good sense from an HCI perspective too - clicking on the URL gets you a URL-specific behavior, and clicking on the text field (but not the URL) gets you text-field behavior. Together with bug 62495, this should make just about everybody upset about clickSelectsAll on the Mac happy. old field values: Summary: Click-select behaviour is wrong Status Whiteboard: DUPEME Keywords: nsbeta1-
Blocks: 73812
Status: VERIFIED → REOPENED
Keywords: nsbeta1-ui
Resolution: DUPLICATE → ---
Summary: Click-select behaviour is wrong → [clickSelectsAll] should not trigger if click is after end of URL
Whiteboard: DUPEME
I am using 1.1, and this bug appears to have reared its head again. The correct Macintosh behavior, based upon HIG is to only select the whole of the element if the element is double clicked. Single click is always insertion. The 1.1 browser selects the whole URL upon a single click, and therefore this confuses people. Please, please, please fix this. I run into it 100s of times a day, and still can not get used to it. It just doesn't work like any other Mac program.
FWIW, my current thinking is that HIG violations should be non-default preferences. If it's really worth violating HIG, it's worth the effort to make a pref UI. If it's not worth the pref UI effort, don't violate HIG. Everybody violating HIG when they think it's a really really good idea isn't a scalable behavior. p.s. Glenn: Navigator (Chimera) works properly.
Selecting the contents of the urlbar on first click is not this bug. There's another bug for it.
Keywords: nsbeta1
Glen, while Mozilla does do this poorly, your suggestion of Mac HIG text-field adherence isn't great either (try Opera to see why). That's single-click to insert, double-click to select word, and triple-click to select line. (Though Opera adds the select-line short-cut with F8, which works erratically unfortunately). I agree with the initial poster that a single-click that selects the whole line only on MOUSE UP (which is IE's behavior) works best most of the time. But as Bill suggests, that could be a user pref for those who prefer strict Mac UI adherence. At any rate, no matter how you look at it, Mozilla's approach of selecting the whole line on MOUSE DOWN is just plain bad. It's one of those inelegant little things that gets in your way, the kind of thing that has always made Windows feel clumsy compared to a Mac.
This should be something simple as this addition in navigator.js (pseudo-code): function URLBarMouseDownHandler(aEvent) { if (gURLBar.hasAttribute("focused")) { gIgnoreClick = true; } else { gIgnoreFocus = true; gIgnoreClick = false; + if <current cursor position <= length of url bar text> gURLBar.setSelectionRange(0, 0); } } cc: Neil, who wrote this code a while back.
nsbeta1+/adt3 per the nav triage team.
Keywords: nsbeta1nsbeta1+
Whiteboard: [adt3]
Keywords: patch, polish, review
Attachment #105572 - Flags: superreview?(bzbarsky)
Attachment #105572 - Flags: review?(dean_tessman)
Comment on attachment 105572 [details] [diff] [review] Proposed patch sr=bzbarsky on condition that one of the UI module owners (eg jag, blake, ben, hyatt) reviews this (note that does not include Dean).
Attachment #105572 - Flags: superreview?(bzbarsky) → superreview+
For what it's worth, the code looks good to me.
Attachment #105572 - Flags: review?(dean_tessman) → review?(jaggernaut)
Attachment #105572 - Flags: review?(jaggernaut) → review+
Blocks: 62496
Fix was checked in by timeless.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 23 years ago22 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Was this fix intended to affect all platforms? I am seeing a change in build 2002120208 under Windoze that looks like part 2 of your request, and I thought it was working correctly before.
Ian has a point. Clicking past the end of the text, in a click-selects-all textfield, should select the text when on win32 platforms. That is the "standard" and user-expected behaviour on win32. (Actually, I'd forgotten about this since I put a platform check in the code on my build as soon as I noticed this change in behaviour).
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED → ---
So are we looking at a new pref browser.urlbar.clickSelection 0 = never select (unix) 1 = select when text clicked (mac) 2 = always select (win) Or just an extra pref browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAtEnd (false on mac)?
I'd say just hard code a platform check for Mac, and if it's not a Mac, then don't apply the additional condition. i.e., this was my quick (untested on Mac) hack: Index: xpfe/browser/resources/content/navigator.js =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mozilla/xpfe/browser/resources/content/navigator.js,v retrieving revision 1.484 diff -u -r1.484 navigator.js --- xpfe/browser/resources/content/navigator.js 24 Nov 2002 22:00:54 -0000 1.484 +++ xpfe/browser/resources/content/navigator.js 5 Dec 2002 23:20:15 -0000 @@ -1733,8 +1737,14 @@ function URLBarClickHandler(aEvent) { - if (!gIgnoreClick && gClickSelectsAll && gURLBar.selectionStart == gURLBar.selectionEnd && gURLBar.selectionStart < gURLBar.value.length) - gURLBar.select(); + if (!gIgnoreClick && gClickSelectsAll && + gURLBar.selectionStart == gURLBar.selectionEnd) { + if (navigator.platform != "MacPPC") { //XXX what is the right test + gURLBar.select(); + } else if (gURLBar.selectionStart < gURLBar.value.length) { + gURLBar.select(); + } + } } // This function gets the "windows hooks" service and has it check its setting
We've gone to all this trouble to make the UI configurable, and then start adding platform checks in the code? Why? Are we sure that ends up being right for, say, Unix users who set clickSelectsAll? We're already using prefs/lookAndFeel to control all the other related issues; please, let's stay consistent with that and not start hardcoding stuff.
It's a very disconcerting change to have a click after url no longer select the url on windows. I've been running into it again and again the last few days; this is unfortunately not behaviour you can easily change, as selecting a url is such a basic action that it bypasses thought...
Attachment #109543 - Flags: superreview?(bzbarsky)
Attachment #109543 - Flags: review?(jaggernaut)
Comment on attachment 109543 [details] [diff] [review] Patch to add Mac-specific pref >+pref("browser.urlbar.clickSelectAtEnd", true); Doh! Forgot the s before the A :-/ Imagine it's there, can you?
Nav triage team: nsbeta1-
Keywords: nsbeta1+nsbeta1-
Comment on attachment 109543 [details] [diff] [review] Patch to add Mac-specific pref clickAtEndSelects may be a better name for the pref.... Please add a comment to all.js explaining what this pref does.
Attachment #109543 - Flags: superreview?(bzbarsky) → superreview+
> Please add a comment to all.js explaining what this pref does. I prefer that all.js does not contain comments. Comments here just increase startup time unnecessarily (JS has to load and parse the entire file on startup).
Is there another place for the comments then? I appreciate the startup time concern, but I'd rather have a slower startup than yet another undocumented pref.
I'd prefer that this was fixed, with or without comments :) I appreciate that the current behaviour is OK for Mac folks, but it is really confusing the issues being discussed in bug 188567, bug 194710, and bug 62491 (and more?).
This addresses Boris' comments, and is updated to yesterday's tree. It also does include a comment in all.js - after all, there are already plenty of comments there. Warning: this is one of my first patches, and it's made in a slightly nonstandard way as I don't have a complete CVS tree (downloading 40MB is nearly impossible for me). I suppose it should be OK, though. Someone, please try it.
Attachment #109543 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Comment on attachment 116059 [details] [diff] [review] revised and updated patch Carrying over bzbarsky's sr, requesting review from jag.
Attachment #116059 - Flags: superreview+
Attachment #116059 - Flags: review?(jaggernaut)
*** Bug 195874 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Requesting blocking for 1.3. Releasing 1.3 with this broken will probably lead to lot of dupes being reported.
Flags: blocking1.3?
As I just produced a dupe, I'm supporting Torben's opinion: Requesting blocking 1.3
Comment on attachment 116059 [details] [diff] [review] revised and updated patch + if (!gIgnoreClick && gClickSelectsAll && gURLBar.selectionStart == gURLBar.selectionEnd) + if (gClickAtEndSelects || gURLBar.selectionStart < gURLBar.value.length) Why not && instead of the second if? r=jag regardless
Attachment #116059 - Flags: review?(jaggernaut) → review+
Fix checked into the trunk.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 22 years ago22 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Comment on attachment 116059 [details] [diff] [review] revised and updated patch Thanks for the checkin, Neil. Requesting approval for 1.3.
Attachment #116059 - Flags: approval1.3?
Flags: blocking1.3? → blocking1.3-
Comment on attachment 109543 [details] [diff] [review] Patch to add Mac-specific pref Remove review request from obsolete patch (revised patch already checked in). Vaclav, the "revised and updated patch" is checked in, no? So you can also remove the approval request...
Attachment #109543 - Flags: review?(jaggernaut)
Ummm... if this approval1.3? flag was still intentionally active for the 1.3.1 release, I'm very sorry, but the 'Edit' form will not let me set it again (and that makes me think that this flag is not really to be used for that release). Sorry for the SPAM.
Comment on attachment 116059 [details] [diff] [review] revised and updated patch 1.3.1 is done. this didn't make it.
Attachment #116059 - Flags: approval1.3?
*** Bug 185769 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Product: Core → SeaMonkey
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