get msgs button does not work, retrieving/sending mails does not work



MailNews Core
17 years ago
10 years ago


(Reporter: michael.noisternig, Unassigned)



Windows 98
Bug Flags:
blocking1.3 -

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)


(Whiteboard: closeme 2008-12-18)


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17 years ago
From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020208
BuildID:    20020311

This is for version 0.9.9 (20020311)...
Hitting the "get msgs" button does *nothing*.
Trying to send a message results in some data being sent about every 3 seconds
or so for infinite time.
Everything works fine with old version 0.9.8. (tried several times with both

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce: Hit "get msgs" or try to send a mail.

I don't know...
Mail server type is POP3, server name is given as IP address.
SMTP server name is given as an IP address as well.

Comment 1

17 years ago
Can't repo on 2002031104 (Win2K). POP3 incoming SMTP outgoing, hostnames not IP.
Doesn't seem to be polling for new mail every X mins, but pressing 'get msgs'
brings new ones down and writes Good Stuff (tm) in the status bar.

Comment 2

17 years ago
Dupe of 111102?


Comment 3

17 years ago
*** Bug 138555 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 4

17 years ago
I thought, maybe you do some sanity checks on the e-mail address and so it goes
wrong. My data goes through a proxy and the e-mail address is of the form


Just a thought.

Comment 5

16 years ago
*** Bug 142713 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 6

16 years ago
Since this bug is, sadly, still not resolved for RC3 I investigated a bit further.
I can now rule out that the problem is the connection though the proxy...

I tried a _direct_ connection to my university (which is too expensive for me to
use it normally) and getting/sending messages *still* did not work. However, I
got the error: "Could not connect to server 'mailhost'; the connection was
refused.", where 'mailhost' is the DNS name of my mail server.
Surprisingly, by replacing the DNS name by it's IP address everything worked
just fine!

*Unfortunately* I cannot use the same trick if I connect via the proxy, where my
Mozilla user name is 'username#mailhost' and the mail server name is the IP
address of the proxy. Replacing 'mailhost' by the IP address gives the usual
error after some time "Cound not connect to server 'proxy'; the connection was
refused". Interestingly though, the proxy _is_ given as an IP address, and of
course works.

Note that all this worked and works fine till Mozilla version 0.9.8 and also
works for any other email client. It started with version 0.9.9 that this
doesn't work anymore, so I'd be *very* grateful to the one finding and fixing
this bug.

Thanks and bye,
Michael Noisternig

Comment 7

16 years ago
Are you still seeing this bug with recent builds?
If yes: Which theme are you using when it happens?
Does changing focus to the message pane *before* you click "get msgs" help?

Also: Can you please try with a clean profile and tell if you see it with that
one too.

Comment 8

16 years ago
I think I have tried *every* version without success starting from 0.9.9.
This is no bug due to the theme (I use the standard modern theme). In fact "get
msgs" *does* something - it sends some data out but it must do so to a
*completely wrong* address, means Mozilla doesn't get any reply. It works
exactly like this:
I press "get msgs", then Mozilla sends some data out, waits for several seconds,
gets no reply, and tries again and again...
Remember: This worked just fine till 0.9.8 and works fine for *any other* email
And yes, it also happens with a clean profile.
It's such a helpless situation...

Comment 9

16 years ago
I have seen this occur on a colleague's machine, using Mozilla 1.0 and a post
Mozilla 1.1a nightly build.  His Get Msg button (and all equivalent invocations)
simply stops working.  The button is active, but has no effect whatsoever.  I am
therefore marking it as new.  Several people in this office use Mozilla, but
haven't had any problems.  However, my colleague is the only one of us who uses
POP3 to access his mail.  The rest of us use IMAP.  We are all connecting
directly to the same server however.  All platforms are Win NT or 2000 on Intel.

This bug is not a duplicate of 111102.  However, 140812 and 141151 look likely
candidates for dupes.

I think the critical priority attached to this bug is definitely justified.  We
are thinking of rolling a Mozilla or Netscape 7 browser to our users soon. 
However, we certainly couldn't consider it until this issue is resolved!

I shall switch my mail config over to use POP in an attempt to see if I can
reproduce it that way.
Ever confirmed: true

Comment 10

16 years ago
I can confirm this with 2002073008 on linux. POP3 account, no proxies. Going
off/online does not help, only killing and restarting mozilla. When restarted
and clicked on the button again, the first thing mozilla does is "Building
summary file for Inbox". 

Comment 11

16 years ago
We have started testing Mozilla/Netscape7 as a replacement for the now very aged
Netscape 4.  As a result, a lot of people in my office have started using
Netscape 7 as their mail client.  I appreciate that this is not strictly
relevant here, but thought I'd give these comments to see if they were helpful.
 I shall do some testing with Mozilla 1.1 over the next few days.

It seems that everyone who uses POP to access our mail server gets this problem.
 IMAP is completely immune.  The client stops downloading new messages
completely.  Clicking get messages does nothing.  In addition, there is often a
permanent busy cursor when the inbox is selected.  Restarting Netscape sometimes
fixes this, but not always.  However, closing down, deleting all index (.msf)
files, and restarting the client does cure the problem.  It's as if the index
file has either become corrupted, or the mail client never finishes building it
in the first place.  I say this as, in some cases, this problem has appeared
from the start.

This is definitely a major bug.  The mail client is unusable until it is fixed!

Comment 12

16 years ago
Just to confirm that this bug is present in Mozilla Build ID: 2002092304.  I
have also just changed our POP server from an old version of qpopper to uw imap
(relaying POP3).  This has made no difference; the problem shows identical
symptoms with both servers.  It seems that deleting the msf files is not a
permanent fix either as the problem recurs.

Given the critical severity of this bug, is anyone actually looking into it? 
Things seem awfully quiet around here!

Comment 13

16 years ago

I experience exactly the same problem as in comments #11 and #12. It happened
with both Mozilla 1.0 and 1.1, running on Windows 2000.

Comment 14

16 years ago
Please go to bug 165832 and check if this here is a dupe or any of the bugs
listed there is a dupe of this one.

Blocks: 165832

Comment 15

16 years ago
Reporter: perhaps adding some keywords would help get some attention? ... 
4xp, adt1.0.2, edt1.0.2, interop, mail4, mozilla1.0.2, mozilla1.2, mozilla1.3,
nsbeta1, nsbranch, nsCatFood, nsenterprise, regression
No longer blocks: 165832

Comment 16

16 years ago
some of those keywords don't apply, and none of them will have any effect unless
there is something more concrete to work on.

probably the most important thing is for someone to reproduce this with a recent
nightly build of mozilla (I don't see anything more recent than September),
using a standard theme and a clean profile. unless we can work out when this
happens, it's pretty hard for anyone to fix it.

someone should also take a look at the bug that Boris Piwinger mentioned and see
if the other bugs there are duplicates or could add any info.


16 years ago
Keywords: 4xp, mail4, mozilla1.2, regression


16 years ago
Blocks: 165832


16 years ago
QA Contact: huang → gchan

Comment 17

16 years ago
The problem persists even with the latest build of Mozilla 1.3a. I have tried
with different versions of Windows without success and therefore it probably is
an OS independent problem.

What I get when I click on "Get Msgs" is
"Could not connect to "proxy"; the connection was refused."

Enabling debugging output for POP3 doesn't give any output in the logfile.

None of the bugs listed in #165832 are dupes of this one.

Comment 18

16 years ago
there's no way you can set up a test accnt for me to try?
Do you know what type of mail server you are using?

Maybe attach a protocol log:

Comment 19

16 years ago
Finally I have solved the problem by myself!
Getting a packet sniffer and looking at what Mozilla _tries_ when clicking on
"Get Msgs" I suddenly realized what was wrong all the time. Starting with
version 0.9.9 Mozilla tries to get mail by using the SOCKS protocol when a proxy
is enabled in the preferences menu. Now I really wonder why
(1) Mozilla silently assumes that the same proxy is used for mail
(2) Mozilla assumes that SOCKS works for this proxy
(3) that it doesn't tell the user what it tries and WHY it fails!!!
(4) this change (from 0.9.8 -> 0.9.9) was nowhere documented or mentioned
(5) no developer here came up with what could be wrong by him-/herself???
(Even more that I have said from the beginning that I was using a proxy server.)

Finally, by adding the proxy address to the "No proxy for" field in the
preferences menu, mail works just fine now while using the proxy server to
browse the internet.

For the curious people I have attached Mozilla's stupid/lame attempt to get my
mail by using the SOCKS protocol.

Have fun,
Michael Noisternig

Comment 20

16 years ago
Created attachment 112674 [details]
Mozilla's stupid/lame attempt to get my mail by using the SOCKS protocol.

Comment 21

16 years ago
I am encountering the same problem with mozilla 1.2.1 on linux, and I am not
using a proxy of any kind.  As near as I can tell, pressing the Get Msgs button
does nothing at all for me; a tcpdump does not show any outbound packets at all.
 I also get the message pane hourglass symptom (the message list gets an
hourglass cursor that doesn't go away until I exit mozilla and restart), and the
index file rebuild on every startup.  I tried creating a new profile, but that
did not fix the problem.

I can create a pop3 account for anyone who wants to try to reproduce this (I'm
using cucipop).  I can also work on fixing it myself, but if I'm going to do
that, some pointers on where to start from someone who's familiar with the code
would be very helpful.
Keith: Your build is rather old. Please try a more recent build:

(as always, be sure to delete your old Mozilla directory before installing the
new one)

PS You won't receive any replies if you're not on the CC list ;).

Comment 23

16 years ago
Okay, I tried with build 2003013015 and the problem still occurred.  It works
for a while after startup, but after a while it stops.  The protocol debug log
just shows successful connections until it stops, and then nothing.

Comment 24

16 years ago
Today (2003-02-10) I've updated my cvs tree and rebuilt mozilla. And my 'Get
Msgs' button in Mail/News doesn't do anything. Since this bug is of critical
severity, I wonder how mozilla could go from 1.3b to 1.3a. And as the bug is
known since 2002-03-21 and it still persists, I assume developers have given up
hope to fix this issue. 
I hope that one day I will find time to fix it myself. But presently I'm
encountering bug after bug while getting acquainted with mozilla so I don't know
when I will actually get to the stage to start fixing bugs.

Comment 25

16 years ago
maybe some people are running into bug 125885


16 years ago
Flags: blocking1.3+

Comment 26

16 years ago
dmitry - only drivers can set blocking+ flags. to nominate a bug, use the ? flag.
Flags: blocking1.3+ → blocking1.3?


16 years ago
Flags: blocking1.3? → blocking1.3-

Comment 27

16 years ago
I am getting somewhat similar behavior for 1.3b build 2003021000 running
Win98se. Initially the Get Msgs button works for a while, but then, at random
times, it stops working, usually just for that account, and without the
automatic periodic retrievals being affected, but sometimes it also blocks
automatic retrieval, and sometimes it also fails for other accounts, or blocks
automatic retrieval for all accounts. Closing the mail client and reopening it
usually restores normal behavior, however. It does not seem to be directly
connected to the xul.mfl file problem, but that is occuring as well.

Comment 28

16 years ago
I'm experiencing the same behavior as Jon Roland and Keith Reynolds on Mozilla
1.3 {build 2003030516} on Linux. It works for awhile, but then stops. It also
doesn't work to hit the down arrow and click "Get all new messages" or to click
the account name. The only way to retrieve further mail is to shut down Mozilla
completely and relaunch it. I'm not running a mail proxy, I'm using the POP3
protocol, and absolutely no packets are captured with Ethereal.

Comment 29

16 years ago
OK, the Mozilla 1.3 GTK2 rpm install seems to have fixed it for me (I'm running
Red Hat 8.0).

Comment 30

16 years ago
I spoke too soon. The behavior started back up again today. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030313 on Red Hat Linux 8.0, from the gtk2 rpm.

Comment 31

15 years ago
Any further progress on this one? It is still annoying.

Comment 32

15 years ago
Any further progress on this one? It is still not fixed on 1.4.

A clue seems to be that it only affects one email account at a time. In my case,
always the most active one first, that gets the most email. One thing that has
changed since 1.3 is that previously the word "Done" appeared in the message
bar, and now does not. I was able to use that "Done" as an indicator that the
problem had set in, because most other processes that produced the word "Done"
caused it to go away after a while. This made me suspect that some other process
was failing to complete properly and unblock further retrieval. Does that sound

Comment 33

15 years ago
Am not having this issue with: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5a)

Experienced it a little with 1.4, and possibly 1.3. I don't think this bug is
the problem, though.

Comment 34

15 years ago
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624
For me, this bug happens consistently only after about 2 days of leaving Mozilla
Mail on.  After that, mail notification stops and GetMsgs doesn't do anything,
although there is new mail.

It happens with every major release I've tried since version 1.1 on Win XP Pro.

- I use POP3 with notification.
- Am on a office LAN.
- I leave my PC on all the time with Mozilla Mail running.

Comment 35

15 years ago
I am also seeing this on a system with:
multiple POP3 accounts,
set up to automatically download messages every 10 minutes,
left on for days at a time,
with NO proxies,
with the "message pane hourglass symptom";
When restarted, Mozilla spends a long time "Building summary file for Inbox".

The only other thing I can think of is that the /home directory is on an NFS
share.  Also, it seemed to start happening after the ISP changed mail servers
and now I have a address instead of an @.
It is version 1.4.1 from Fedora.
Product: MailNews → Core

Comment 36

13 years ago
Ver. 1.5

I too have the same problem. The "Get Mail" button does not work.  There seems to be some type of corruption.  Everything was working properly until Norton cleaned out a virus.  Uninstalled and reinstalled with no sucess. 

I can only retrieve emails in 2 ways:
First by invoking - emails are retrieved.  
Second, by double clicking on my inbox folder.  This pops up a new window and retrieve works.  


10 years ago
Assignee: mscott → nobody
QA Contact: grylchan → mailnews.networking


10 years ago
Product: Core → MailNews Core

Comment 37

10 years ago
still see this problem?
Whiteboard: closeme 2008-12-18
RESO INCO due to lack of response to last question. If you feel this change was made in error, please respond to this bug with your reasons why.
Last Resolved: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → INCOMPLETE
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