156916 - Make Open A new tab/window button available (when the tab bar is closed/ or always)

Status: NEW

(SeaMonkey :: Tabbed Browser, enhancement)

Description

[Aryan Ameri]

From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1a+) Gecko/20020708
BuildID:    2002070821

In  newer Builds ( 2002070821), A button has been added to the left of the Tab
Bar called "Open a New tab". This is actually a very nice feature , since it
enables you to quickly open new tabs with a single click. How ever as this
button resides in the tab bar,and as by default, the tab bar is hidden when you
only have one open tab, therefore, This button is not always available. As a
matter of fact it is not vailable usually, when you first open mozilla. 
As this feature really makes opninning new tabs very easy, and as tabbing has
become so much popular recently, therefore I would like to see this "Open a New
Tab" button" available, even if the tab bar is closed. 

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1.Open Mozilla, and by default, as tab bar is hidden, you won't see the "Open A
New Tab" Button.

Comment 1

[Alfonso Martinez]

If you like tabs so much you should disable the preference to hide the tab bar
when only 1 tab is present.

Comment 2

[jag (Peter Annema)]

-> UI design

Comment 3

[timeless]

please wontfix. if people want to use tabs, they should opt in to always seeing

the tabbar and be happy. if a person does not want to use tabs, we should *not* 

spend their valuable real-estate on a button which they will not use.

Comment 4

[Daniel Wang]

this bug is similar to 104125

Comment 5

[Aryan Ameri]

I don't think it's at all similar to 104125. This bug is talking about Tabed
browsing, while 104125 was made at a time when tabbed browsing didn't existed (
Or was in it's early stages perhaps). 
The bug 104125 wants a button to do the job of Ctrl+N. I want a Button with the
outcome of Ctrl+T. Are they similar?
BTW: I agree that we [e-mail] that we shouldn't waste valuable
real-estate. But IMHO making it an optional button ( perhaps like the Go and
Print and Search Buttons), won't force users into anything.
Aryan

Comment 6

[Chris Charabaruk]

No offense to him, but why is mpt the assignee when we all know how much he
hates tabbed browsing?

Comment 7

[Aryan Ameri]

Well, I don't know much about the history of mozilla or the people there.( I'm
trying to learn it), but can you refer me to a bug or something that shows mpt
hates tabbed browsing?
As this bug have not received any attention maybe I should change the assignee. 

BTW: I know that Gecko is by far the superior engine or that mozilla is much
more standard oriented than IE, but I can't tell these to the average user, when
I am encouraging them to switch from IE to mozilla. What I am able to tell them
is that it has tabbed browsing, or it blocks, pop up ads an etc. That's what
most people really care about. Therefore, I think we should make mozilla, even
stronger in fields that it has advantages over IE. Tabbed browsing is one of
them, that IE lacks, so we should work on it more.Also, I had a case when the
user hated Mozilla, but when I changed the theme, he started loving it. GUI is
what most people see.

Aryan

Comment 8

[Jesse Ruderman]

See also bug 104125, "one-click button for new browser window".

Comment 9

[Peter Trudelle]

->Tabbed Browsing component

Comment 10

[Aryan Ameri]

Well, bug 104125 is similar to bug 156916 . But they are not duplicates, About
15144 , I agree that it is a great enhancement, that many ( including me ) would
love it, and if bug 15144 is fixed, both bug 104125 and this bug won't need any
further attention. But still I don't think this bug depends on 15144 because it
can be implemented, even without bug 15144 being fixed.

Comment 11

[Aaron Lawrence]

WONTFIX please! If you want to use tabs, then turn on "always show tabs".
Perhaps that should even be the default now, since it's so popular. 

One thought: if Netscape gets (user) customisable toolbars, as it probably
should, then those people who want this could add a "new tab" button to one of
their toolbars.

Comment 12

[Peter Trudelle]

I agree, tab bar should be on by default for easier discovery, and if the user
closes it they probably don't want the new tab button either.  In any case,
customization takes care of the edge case.

Comment 13

[Aryan Ameri]

OK, I also Agrre. This bug will now be resolved as WONTFIX. Since people
complaint about having such a button, and besides, if we can really have
customized toolbars, that will take care of this bug. As we have had a bug for
such a task (Which I mentioned before), thus there is no need for this bug.

Comment 14

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

v

Comment 15

[Aryan Ameri]

closed now

Comment 16

[Torben]

*** Bug 172069 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 17

[Jason Bassford]

*** Bug 197851 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 18

[Biju]

(In reply to comment #13)
> OK, I also Agrre. This bug will now be resolved as WONTFIX. Since people
> complaint about having such a button, and besides, if we can really have
> customized toolbars, that will take care of this bug. As we have had a bug for
> such a task (Which I mentioned before), thus there is no need for this bug.

now we have customizable toolbars, but not "new tab" and "new window" buttons.

On Fx "new tab" is my first button and the most used one. 
I have customized same way for many of my friends and they love it. 

Yesterday I switched from back Fx(phoenix/Fb) to SM.
I was delaying this because SM did not have customizable toolbars earlier.

Comment 19

[Biju]

example see attachment 362850 [details]