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Comment 1

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5 years ago

debian9 actualy

Comment 2

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5 years ago

Bugbug thinks this bug should belong to this component, but please revert this change in case of error.

Component: Untriaged → Widget: Gtk

Product: Firefox → Core

Darkspirit

Comment 3

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5 years ago

bug 1342573 is about [@ ARGBSetRow_X86 ], but I don't have access.
bug 1604680 is about [@ __memcpy_sse2_unaligned_erms | SkSpriteBlitter_Memcpy::blitRect ].

Crash Signature: [@ ARGBSetRow_X86 ]

status-firefox75: --- → affected

Component: Widget: Gtk → Graphics

Depends on: 1342573

Keywords: crash, regression

OS: Unspecified → Linux

Hardware: Unspecified → x86_64

Comment 4

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5 years ago

@Lee: Could you take a look at this? Both crashes look like alignment issues, so maybe they have the same cause.

Flags: needinfo?(lsalzman)

Kris Taeleman (:ktaeleman)

Updated

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5 years ago

Priority: -- → P2

Lee Salzman [:lsalzman]

Comment 5

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5 years ago

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Edited

I believe this is just another instance of bug 1305298 or bug 1245239. Essentially those bugs are probably some various of the following - Linux overcommit behavior of shmems mean that we mmap in the shmem, and everything seems fine at the time. Then when we finally go to clear/initialize it, the kernel is finally forced to map the page and this causes it to OOM (which manifests as a SIGBUS). I am not sure we have any particularly good resolutions here...

Looking through crash counts, it seems this behavior hit spikes on both 68.2esr and and 70.0 release. Looking at the release calendar, those happened about the same time. 68.2esr seems like a clue, though, since 68.1esr/68.0esr don't seem to report the same spike.

Jeff, do you remember anything suspicious we did around that time?

Flags: needinfo?(lsalzman) → needinfo?(jmuizelaar)

Comment 6

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5 years ago

Looking at the crashes it seems to me that this is a mix of regular OOMs (a third of the crashes have very little physical memory available and almost no free swap space). In other cases it's obvious that we've run against some resource limit like shmem. Take this report for example:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/3a4f6f1d-ca8e-4237-bea8-d66c10200417#tab-details

The machine had gigabytes of free memory when it crashed. The third frame of that stack is:

mozilla::layers::ShmemTextureData::Create(mozilla::gfx::IntSizeTyped<mozilla::gfx::UnknownUnits>, mozilla::gfx::SurfaceFormat, mozilla::gfx::BackendType, mozilla::layers::LayersBackend, mozilla::layers::TextureFlags, mozilla::layers::TextureAllocationFlags, mozilla::ipc::IShmemAllocator*)

So we probably tried to allocate too much shared memory and failed because of that. It's a shame we can't tell "regular" OOMs from shmem ones by just looking at the crash reason.

Julien Cristau [:jcristau]

Updated

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5 years ago

status-firefox75: affected → wontfix

status-firefox76: --- → wontfix

status-firefox77: --- → fix-optional

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Comment 7

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5 years ago

Please see these crashes of today. It's getting more and more frequent, I can't use firefox anymore :c

Comment 8

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5 years ago

Thanks for linking to those crashes, I looked through them and now I know what's going on. You seem to be running Firefox from within a Qubes OS container. I don't know what's Qubes default settings are for that but it seems that it's imposing very low resource limits on the Firefox process. I would ask you to check the output of df /dev/shm and ipcs --limits in a terminal but because of how Qubes works that probably wouldn't be relevant as Firefox would have different limits.

You need to find a way to increase those limits to prevent these crashes, starting with shared memory, because that's what you're bumping against. Unfortunately I don't know how Qubes sets up the limits for its containers so you will have to refer to your distro's documentation for that.

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Comment 9

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5 years ago

user@social:~$ df /dev/shm
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 1048576 501700 546876 48% /dev/shm

user@social:~$ ipcs

------ Message Queues --------
key msqid owner perms used-bytes messages

------ Shared Memory Segments --------
key shmid owner perms bytes nattch status
0x00000000 65536 user 600 524288 2 dest
0x00000000 131073 user 600 7584992 2 dest
0x00000000 163842 user 600 1936 2 dest
0x00000000 7634947 user 600 364544 2 dest
0x00000000 5570564 user 600 22339584 2 dest
0x00000000 5603333 user 600 22339584 2 dest
0x00000000 5636102 user 600 22339584 2 dest
0x00000000 5013511 user 600 23040000 2 dest
0x00000000 720904 user 600 524288 2 dest
0x00000000 753673 user 600 4194304 2 dest
0x00000000 851978 user 600 524288 2 dest
0x00000000 5668875 user 600 22339584 2 dest
0x00000000 7569420 user 600 4194304 2 dest
0x00000000 7372813 user 600 405504 2 dest
0x00000000 7340047 user 600 405504 2 dest
0x00000000 7602192 user 600 364544 2 dest

------ Semaphore Arrays --------
key semid owner perms nsems

Thank you, I'm gonna research on this topic. However, I suspected memory usage was high, but I ended up having crashes with like 5 tabs open. Sometimes I restart the browser and from the 30 tabs, I only load one, and that one already crashes.

I use this Qube only for firefox and telegram, I've put 5gb of RAM for it, which is a debian9, I thougth it was enough.

Comment 10

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5 years ago

5GiB of memory is more than enough, you should be able to open a lot of tabs in that. The problem is the shared memory limit: it's less than on other Linux distros and it seems that it's being used much more, possibly because of Qubes specific requirements. On my machine df /dev/shm looks like this:

Filesystem     1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
shm             16444548 91428  16353120   1% /dev/shm

Try growing your /dev/shm, it should help.

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Comment 11

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5 years ago

(In reply to Gabriele Svelto [:gsvelto] from comment #10)

5GiB of memory is more than enough, you should be able to open a lot of tabs in that. The problem is the shared memory limit: it's less than on other Linux distros and it seems that it's being used much more, possibly because of Qubes specific requirements. On my machine df /dev/shm looks like this:
Filesystem     1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
shm             16444548 91428  16353120   1% /dev/shm
Try growing your /dev/shm, it should help.

I talked to a Qubes dev and he thinks that, by your comment on the problem, you migth be thinking that Qubes runs containers. But actually it runs virtual machine instances on Xen in paravirtualized mode. So the only difference from my Qube for firefox and a real machine is in some linux drivers for paravirtualization.

Is it possible that, the last bugs I posted happened because of high RAM usage, but not all of them happen for this reason? Because I recall restarting firefox and with just one tab open (and like 30+ unloaded), it would still crash. Sometimes with just 5 tabs it would crash.\

Thank you so much!

Comment 12

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5 years ago

(In reply to me from comment #11)

I talked to a Qubes dev and he thinks that, by your comment on the problem, you migth be thinking that Qubes runs containers. But actually it runs virtual machine instances on Xen in paravirtualized mode. So the only difference from my Qube for firefox and a real machine is in some linux drivers for paravirtualization.

I knew Qubes was using VMs but I didn't know that it didn't impose specific restrictions on them, so that's not the problem, thanks for investigating that.

Is it possible that, the last bugs I posted happened because of high RAM usage, but not all of them happen for this reason? Because I recall restarting firefox and with just one tab open (and like 30+ unloaded), it would still crash. Sometimes with just 5 tabs it would crash.\

I've looked at the data in comment 9 and suddenly realized that there's something that doesn't add up. In that scenario you've got 1GiB of space allocated to /dev/shm of which over half appears to be used, but the total of the shared memory segments displayed by ipcs is only ~128MiB. So it seems that memory is being consumed somewhere else.

There's two bit of information that could help figure out what's going on. Could you attach the contents of /proc/meminfo from inside the VM running Firefox and also the contents of about:memory from within Firefox (click on the measure and save button to get a compressed report from there).

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Comment 13

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5 years ago

(In reply to Gabriele Svelto [:gsvelto] from comment #12)

(In reply to me from comment #11)

I talked to a Qubes dev and he thinks that, by your comment on the problem, you migth be thinking that Qubes runs containers. But actually it runs virtual machine instances on Xen in paravirtualized mode. So the only difference from my Qube for firefox and a real machine is in some linux drivers for paravirtualization.

I knew Qubes was using VMs but I didn't know that it didn't impose specific restrictions on them, so that's not the problem, thanks for investigating that.

Is it possible that, the last bugs I posted happened because of high RAM usage, but not all of them happen for this reason? Because I recall restarting firefox and with just one tab open (and like 30+ unloaded), it would still crash. Sometimes with just 5 tabs it would crash.\

I've looked at the data in comment 9 and suddenly realized that there's something that doesn't add up. In that scenario you've got 1GiB of space allocated to /dev/shm of which over half appears to be used, but the total of the shared memory segments displayed by ipcs is only ~128MiB. So it seems that memory is being consumed somewhere else.

There's two bit of information that could help figure out what's going on. Could you attach the contents of /proc/meminfo from inside the VM running Firefox and also the contents of about:memory from within Firefox (click on the measure and save button to get a compressed report from there).

user@social:~$ cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 5048676 kB
MemFree: 1326376 kB
MemAvailable: 1908572 kB
Buffers: 74228 kB
Cached: 1255292 kB
SwapCached: 32412 kB
Active: 2402048 kB
Inactive: 1002268 kB
Active(anon): 2036892 kB
Inactive(anon): 609080 kB
Active(file): 365156 kB
Inactive(file): 393188 kB
Unevictable: 119104 kB
Mlocked: 119104 kB
SwapTotal: 1048572 kB
SwapFree: 671740 kB
Dirty: 3144 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 2182320 kB
Mapped: 812128 kB
Shmem: 571260 kB
Slab: 90364 kB
SReclaimable: 56620 kB
SUnreclaim: 33744 kB
KernelStack: 7712 kB
PageTables: 30792 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 3572908 kB
Committed_AS: 5086108 kB
VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB
VmallocUsed: 0 kB
VmallocChunk: 0 kB
Percpu: 600 kB
HardwareCorrupted: 0 kB
AnonHugePages: 0 kB
ShmemHugePages: 0 kB
ShmemPmdMapped: 0 kB
CmaTotal: 0 kB
CmaFree: 0 kB
HugePages_Total: 0
HugePages_Free: 0
HugePages_Rsvd: 0
HugePages_Surp: 0
Hugepagesize: 2048 kB
Hugetlb: 0 kB
DirectMap4k: 944096 kB
DirectMap2M: 4380672 kB
DirectMap1G: 1048576 kB

about:memory: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZV-sbPMKDBBV5fdKtT4AI7fUtdpgw-8v/view?usp=sharing

Just so you can see that these crashes are state-related, sometimes a tab crashes and when I reload it, it crashes in the same spot forever. I restore it, scroll down, crashes in the same spot. Restore, scroll down, crashes in the same spot. If I don't scroll down, won't crash. However, simply creating a new tab with the same link solves this, I can scroll to that part and it won't crash.

Another way of making it crash it to quickly control alt between tabs. If I do it too much or too much fast it crashes

Thanks for helping me with this!

Comment 14

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5 years ago

OK, memory usage in your report looks in line with what I would expect, with the exception of share memory. My Firefox instance with 40+ tabs open has less than half of what you have. I have a feeling I might have figured out what's wrong: according to the telemetry in some of the crashes your screen resolution is significantly higher than I have which means graphics memory buffer are going to be larger, potentially much larger.

Sotaro, do you know who could help here? It seems that we're allocating potentially very large buffers for holding textures here and we're doing so using shared memory (presumably because these will be passed between processes). Shared memory however is taken from tmpfs on Linux which cannot be swapped out and is a limited resource that might be used for other data (like files stored under /run).

Flags: needinfo?(sotaro.ikeda.g)

Comment 15

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5 years ago

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Edited

Compositor + Layers uses a lot of shmem at ShmemTextureData when multiple processes are used like e10s on Linux. On Linux, Bug 1549965 and Bug 1432531 might increase shmem usage.

If we want to decrease shmem usage at gfx, WebRender could be a choice.

Flags: needinfo?(sotaro.ikeda.g)

Comment 16

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5 years ago

me, can you check if the problem happen on latest nightly with WebRender? WebRender could be enabled by changing pref "gfx.webrender.all=true" at about:config. And we could know if WebRender is enabled at about:support.

Flags: needinfo?(me)

Comment 17

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5 years ago

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Edited

Sotaro, do you know who could help here?

Compositor + Layers intrinsically uses a lot of shmem on Linux. In the past, gfx team reduced its usages. It is not trivial to reduce the memory usage more. For now, gfx team is focusing to working for WebRender instead of "Compositor + Layers". For shmem usage, Webrender should use less memory than "Compositor + Layers".

:nical might know a bug that gfx team planned for reducing shmem usage more for Layers.

Flags: needinfo?(nical.bugzilla)

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Comment 18

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5 years ago

(In reply to Sotaro Ikeda [:sotaro] from comment #16)

me, can you check if the problem happen on latest nightly with WebRender? WebRender could be enabled by changing pref "gfx.webrender.all=true" at about:config. And we could know if WebRender is enabled at about:support.

I setted it to true.

Here's my about:support:

WEBRENDER
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature
WEBRENDER_QUALIFIED
denied by env: Not on allowlist
WEBRENDER_COMPOSITOR
disabled by default: Disabled by default
WEBGPU
disabled by default: Disabled by default

Flags: needinfo?(me)

Comment 19

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5 years ago

me, thank you! Can you check "Compositing" part in Graphics of about:support? You seemed to post only "Decision Log" part.

Flags: needinfo?(me)

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Comment 20

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5 years ago

(In reply to Sotaro Ikeda [:sotaro] from comment #19)

me, thank you! Can you check "Compositing" part in Graphics of about:support? You seemed to post only "Decision Log" part.

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Vendor ID 0xffff
Device ID 0xffff
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Diagnostics
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HW_COMPOSITING
blocked by env: Acceleration blocked by platform
OPENGL_COMPOSITING
unavailable by default: Hardware compositing is disabled
GPU_PROCESS
unavailable by env: Hardware compositing is unavailable.
WEBRENDER
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature
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Comment 21

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5 years ago

(In reply to me from comment #20)

(In reply to Sotaro Ikeda [:sotaro] from comment #19)
Compositing Basic

Thank you. Hmm, WebRender was not enabled, instead BasicCompositor was used. It uses a lot of shmem.

WEBRENDER
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature

It seems that pref "gfx.webrender.all" was not set to true at about:config.

When it is set, we normally see the following

WEBRENDER
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature
available by user: Force enabled by pref

me, did you actually set pref "gfx.webrender.all" to true at about:config with latest nightly?

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Comment 22

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5 years ago

(In reply to Sotaro Ikeda [:sotaro] from comment #21)

(In reply to me from comment #20)

(In reply to Sotaro Ikeda [:sotaro] from comment #19)
Compositing Basic

Thank you. Hmm, WebRender was not enabled, instead BasicCompositor was used. It uses a lot of shmem.

WEBRENDER
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature

It seems that pref "gfx.webrender.all" was not set to true at about:config.

When it is set, we normally see the following

WEBRENDER
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature
available by user: Force enabled by pref

me, did you actually set pref "gfx.webrender.all" to true at about:config with latest nightly?

yes, I double clicked and it went from false to true

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Comment 23

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5 years ago

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Edited

(In reply to me from comment #22)

yes, I double clicked and it went from false to true

Hmm, it is weird. Did you restart Firefox after changing about:config?

Comment 24

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5 years ago

Driver Version 13.0.6.0

That's a very old version of Mesa.

Updated

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5 years ago

Depends on: 1633667

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Comment 25

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5 years ago

(In reply to Sotaro Ikeda [:sotaro] from comment #23)

(In reply to me from comment #22)

yes, I double clicked and it went from false to true

Hmm, it is weird. Did you restart Firefox after changing about:config?

after restarting and using for 4 days I got almost no crashes. My latest crash is from day 28 but its just 1.

I just reenabled because my firefox was very very slow, youtube was like 10fps and changing tabs was laggy, I just remembered this setting was activated and disabled it. But it looks like crashes stopped when it was active.

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Comment 26

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5 years ago

yep, less than 10 minutes after disabling it, first crash

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Comment 27

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5 years ago

I can watch youtube but almost always, when I scroll down to read the comments, it crashes.

Latest 3 crashes from now:

14e41477-e45c-c436-ed11-681f4583ed6d 5/1/20, 11:11 PM
4af77bc2-edb4-4661-8d1f-d83a8849d540 5/1/20, 11:09 PM
49db2fef-fb27-d022-1364-fe7f458cae62 5/1/20, 11:08 PM

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Comment 28

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5 years ago

(In reply to Gabriele Svelto [:gsvelto] from comment #24)

Driver Version 13.0.6.0

That's a very old version of Mesa.

I created an entirely new VM, based on Debian 10 now (freshly downloaded from qubes repo), because today the error became so constant on my debian 9 that I couldn't work on firefox anymore. Crashed every 10 seconds.

Perhaps the mesa driver is newer now on debian 10.

It already gave me 2 crashes but it's much more stable.

33cfcc56-6547-c3b4-b8a3-d44df4b0e052
03562475-5d6a-b9c1-2929-151de685c906

Remember that when doing the webrender thing as suggested, I spent 4 days without any crashes (possibly just one but I don't remember now). I had to turn it back though because firefox was very very slow

Also remember that things like scrolling down to youtube comments trigger this crash a lot. Watching the video or even opening lots of videos at the sime time does not make it crash.

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GPU_PROCESS
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WEBRENDER
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WEBRENDER_QUALIFIED
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Comment 29

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5 years ago

Let's confirm this, it's an OOM but it's a valid one.

I created an entirely new VM, based on Debian 10 now (freshly downloaded from qubes repo), because today the error became so constant on my debian 9 that I couldn't work on firefox anymore. Crashed every 10 seconds.

Perhaps the mesa driver is newer now on debian 10.

Yeah, 18.3.6, not super-modern but not too old either, definitely a lot better than 13.x.

33cfcc56-6547-c3b4-b8a3-d44df4b0e052
03562475-5d6a-b9c1-2929-151de685c906

I couldn't find them on https://crash-stats.mozilla.com, did you submit them?

Remember that when doing the webrender thing as suggested, I spent 4 days without any crashes (possibly just one but I don't remember now). I had to turn it back though because firefox was very very slow

Does your VM have a pass-through for the GPU or is it emulated? In the latter case mesa must be falling back to the software renderer which is very slow.

Also remember that things like scrolling down to youtube comments trigger this crash a lot. Watching the video or even opening lots of videos at the sime time does not make it crash.

That's normal, when you scroll down Firefox will generate a large buffer in shared memory that might be mutliple times the height of the page, that's needed for smooth scrolling. Opening multiple pages will allocate multiple smaller buffers which are less likely to trigger an OOM.

There's something else you might try to see if it improves stability. In comment 9 it appears that your /dev/shm is "only" 1GiB in size. Since you've got 5 GiB allocated to the VM could you try resizing it and then checking if Firefox still crashes? This command should double it (run as root):

mount -o remount,size=2g tmpfs /dev/shm

Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW

Ever confirmed: true

Reporter

Comment 30

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5 years ago

(In reply to Gabriele Svelto [:gsvelto] from comment #29)

Let's confirm this, it's an OOM but it's a valid one.

I created an entirely new VM, based on Debian 10 now (freshly downloaded from qubes repo), because today the error became so constant on my debian 9 that I couldn't work on firefox anymore. Crashed every 10 seconds.

Perhaps the mesa driver is newer now on debian 10.

Yeah, 18.3.6, not super-modern but not too old either, definitely a lot better than 13.x.

33cfcc56-6547-c3b4-b8a3-d44df4b0e052
03562475-5d6a-b9c1-2929-151de685c906

I couldn't find them on https://crash-stats.mozilla.com, did you submit them?

Remember that when doing the webrender thing as suggested, I spent 4 days without any crashes (possibly just one but I don't remember now). I had to turn it back though because firefox was very very slow

Does your VM have a pass-through for the GPU or is it emulated? In the latter case mesa must be falling back to the software renderer which is very slow.

Also remember that things like scrolling down to youtube comments trigger this crash a lot. Watching the video or even opening lots of videos at the sime time does not make it crash.

That's normal, when you scroll down Firefox will generate a large buffer in shared memory that might be mutliple times the height of the page, that's needed for smooth scrolling. Opening multiple pages will allocate multiple smaller buffers which are less likely to trigger an OOM.

There's something else you might try to see if it improves stability. In comment 9 it appears that your /dev/shm is "only" 1GiB in size. Since you've got 5 GiB allocated to the VM could you try resizing it and then checking if Firefox still crashes? This command should double it (run as root):

mount -o remount,size=2g tmpfs /dev/shm

it worked pretty well for these days. Some crashes but not too much. But right now it started crashing a LOT on youtube, even though I added 3g of shared memory. Can you take a look to see if those are relted to shared memory?

Comment 31

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5 years ago

It seems like you're not running out of shared memory anymore (mostly) but running out of regular memory. I think it all boils down to your setup not having hardware acceleration and using the llvmpipe driver for rendering. In this setup either Firefox, mesa (or most likely both) seem to be using far too much memory. I've filed a bug to track memory use in this configuration, we'll see what comes out of it.

I don't know how to improve your situation in the meantime, Qubes OS FAQ specifically mentions that GPU hardware acceleration is unavailable outside of Dom0. You might try adjusting the amount of shared memory again, reducing it this time to leave more regular memory available in the hope that you'll strike an adequate balance.

Nicolas Silva [:nical]

Comment 32

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5 years ago

My understanding is that this is a case of bug 1245239 which :aosmond is working on.

Flags: needinfo?(nical.bugzilla)

Nicolas Silva [:nical]

Updated

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5 years ago

Depends on: 1245239

BMO Automation

Updated

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2 years ago

Severity: normal → S3