[De] nav_help.xhtml: Typos
Categories
(SeaMonkey :: Help Documentation, defect, P5)
Tracking
(seamonkey2.53? affected, seamonkey2.57esr? affected)
People
(Reporter: RainerBielefeldNG, Assigned: frg)
References
(Blocks 2 open bugs)
Details
(Keywords: good-first-bug, Whiteboard: SM2.53.3)
Attachments
(4 files)
6.13 KB,
patch
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frg
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feedback+
iannbugzilla
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feedback+
frg
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approval-comm-release+
frg
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approval-comm-esr60+
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5.30 KB,
patch
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2.47 KB,
patch
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1.08 MB,
patch
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Steps how to reproduce with installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 2.53.3beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0 (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20200510220906 (Default Classic Theme, newly created User Profile) on German WIN7 64bit
- Browser → F1
» Help appears - Type search string "Im Internet navigieren" → Click first hit "Im Internet navigieren"
» Related Help appears
You will find some misspelled words:
Benützung →
Benutzung
(multiple times in text)
am unteren rechten Fenstereck, können Sie →
am unteren rechten Fenstereck können Sie
chronik →
Chronik
Sidebar-Tab Chronik →
Sidebar-Tab Chronik“
Es öffnet sich die "Chronik-Liste" →
Es öffnet sich die „Chronik-Liste“
"BearbeitenSeaMonkey" →
„Bearbeiten“
(several times in the text)
Webseite zB ein Formular enthält →
Webseite z. B. ein Formular enthält
Ihrem Browser indem Sie sich →
Ihrem Browser in dem Sie sich
brandShortName; →
This seems to be a broken variable? Text should be „SeaMonkey“
auf "Google Search nach "digitale Fotografie" durchsuchen" am →
auf „Google Search nach "digitale Fotografie" durchsuchen“ am
von seinem aktuellen Cursorpunkt →
von seiner aktuellen Cursorposition
Der Cursorpunkt ist normal dort, →
Die Cursorposition ist normalerweise dort,
um vom Cursorpunkt aus →
um von der Cursorposition aus
Lesezeichen-Manger →
Lesezeichen-Manager
enhält nicht →
enthält nicht
auszuschliessen →
auszuschließen
entsprechend Ihrer Suche gefilter →
entsprechend Ihrer Suche gefiltert
so das zB Bilder →
so das z. B. Bilder
haben Strg-clickauf das Bild →
haben Strg-click auf das Bild
Ouml;ffnen Sie →
Öffnen Sie
(multiple times in text)
die Grö#223;e der Speite →
die Größe der Seite
Prozent-Wertern →
Prozent-Werten
automtisch →
automatisch
daß →
dass
(several times in Text)
Orginal-Größe →
Originalgröße
Orginalgröße →
Originalgröße
Verhälttnis →
Verhältnis
representiert →
repräsentiert
Plug-Ins →
Plugins
(several times in text)
Installiation →
Installation
seperat →
separat
detailiert →
detailliert
dannach →
danach
folgendende →
folgende
Anschliessend →
Anschließend
schliessen →
schließen
Benutzerdefinerte →
Benutzer-definerte
sodass →
so dass
Lesezeihen →
Lesezeichen
Schliessen →
Schließen
unaktuell →
inaktuell
a) Info: I consider German Help as some kind of de-DE (Mozilla does not distinguish different spelling rules in different countries with German language.
b) Additional hints to keyboard differences between different OS
„CmdAlt+Pos 1.“ is Mac only, should we also mention combinations for other OS?„CmdStrg+ L“ – as above.Cmd+ ShiftStrg+H – as above.CmdStrg+R. – as above.CmdStrg+ Shift+R. – as aboveCmdCtrl – as aboveCmdStrg Shift+G – as aboveCmdStrg+ B – as aboveCmdStrg+H – as above
Reasons for strikethrough see Comment 2!
Comment 1•4 years ago
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Rainer, were you viewing the nav_help.xhtml file "externally"? I can't see CmdStrg or BearbeitenSeaMonkey in WG9s' 2.53.4 DE 20200602[...] through the help viewer or via a chrome:-URL (<chrome://communicator/locale/help/nav_help.xhtml>), but I do see these if I open nav_help.xhtml as an external file. (The Mac--non-Mac differences are controlled by css styles in <chrome://help/content/platformClasses.css> (imported via helpFileLayout.css) which are not loaded in the latter case.)
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Comment 2•4 years ago
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(In reply to Nuno Silva from comment #1)
Rainer, were you viewing the nav_help.xhtml file "externally"?
Nuno , I do the spell check based on the external files, but always when I see something more sophisticated than a simple typo I switch to the real build in help in SM for further tests; in theory, at least. It seems that in this case I was careless or I forgot to switch to build in Help or it was something with that particular build (I doubt)? I can confirm your observation with unzipped installer of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 2.53.4beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0 (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20200529210001(Default Classic Theme, newly created User Profile) on German WIN7 64bit:
No string "Cmd" in all help. So (b) is completely nonsense here.
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Comment 3•4 years ago
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Just a bit of advocacy:
Personally correct typographic quotes can go the way of the dodo for me :) Not on the keyboard and just a nuisance to type in. I always use normal double quotes and let others correct me if they can't stand it. From things I now see in corporate and other documents grammar is no longer in fashion anyway...
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/12/quotation-mark-wars/511766/
The German help files need abig overhaul but by a native speaker unfortunately. I try to fix something now and then but bogged down with other things. If someone does text changes I am happy to do correctly formatted patches and also r+ them.
Comment 4•4 years ago
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This handles "Ouml;ffnen", "Grö#223;e" and "brandShortName;" in German nav_help.xhtml, and also fixes a "brandShortName;" in the Hungarian translation.
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Comment 6•4 years ago
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Updated•4 years ago
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Comment 7•4 years ago
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de patch for checkin into our gitlab repos
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Comment 8•4 years ago
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hu patch for checkin into our gitlab repos
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Comment 9•4 years ago
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Please check out Bills next l10n de build. If you don't find any new typos I suggest we close this bug and move the remaining parts to a follow-up. There are probably still a ton of fixes needed.
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Comment 10•4 years ago
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Comment 11•4 years ago
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I don't have any review skills at all, but I tried. I think my review might be 80% reliable - not 99%
My Results
- I can confirm that the patch does not contain any of my found typos in words. More or less, I had some difficulties to find typos (did not find "clickauf ", "Speite", or fixes).
- It seems that wrong english quotation marks "" have not been transrerred to German ones „“?
- Patch contains several abbreviations 'z.B'; should be 'z. B.' with a blank in it
I found new typos:
örtlichkeit -->
Örtlichkeit
Zertifizierungssstelle -->
Zertifizierungsstelle
(more than 1 times in text)
Zertitikate -->
Zertifikate
ansehn -->
ansehen
(severaltimes in text)
Austeller -->
Aussteller
aufbaun -->
aufbauen
Techniche -->
Technische
(more than 1 times in text)
"enthŒlt" für me has result "enthŒlt" --> should be
"enthält"
daß -->
dass
(more than 1 times in text)
Zertifkat-Manager -->
Zertifikat-Manager
Zertifiakt -->
Zertifikat
(more than 1 times in text)
aktzeptieren -->
akzeptieren
permanet -->
permanent
Für detailierte - Informationen bei der Benutzung von Zertifikaten -->
Für detaillierte - Informationen bei der Benutzung von Zertifikaten
I have to stop here because of missing time. Can continue later.
@frg, @ Nuno Silva: Is this way of review useful for you?
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Updated•4 years ago
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Comment 12•4 years ago
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The current 2.53.4 German de help files are here:
https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project/seamonkey-2.53-l10n/-/tree/2_53_4_final/de/suite/chrome/common/help
Would help me the most if you could change them directly. The files are located here:
https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project/seamonkey-2.53-l10n/-/tree/2_53_4_final/de/suite/chrome/common/help
You can send them to me for doing a proper patch or add them here.
Despite stated otherwise last patch really fixed a bunch of issues. Was not 1MB fluff :) I don't want to add typographic quotes. They are a nuisance when editing and afaik no one does them in the help fies.
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