Closed Bug 349864 Opened 19 years ago Closed 19 years ago

404 URL in German Tech Evangelism e-mail template

Categories

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Product:
www.mozilla.org
Component:
General
Platform:
x86
Windows 2000
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED FIXED

People

(Reporter: timwi, Assigned: bugzilla)

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(2 files)

Spelling and grammar corrections
6.36 KB, text/html
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Patch
8.08 KB, patch
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6 The German Tech Evangelism e-mail template at: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tech-evangelism/site/tech-letter-de.html mentions this URL: http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Offices/Germany/uebersetzungen which 404s. It should probably be replaced with: http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/byLanguage?language=de Reproducible: Always
Also - to update all/each occurences of Netscape 6, Netscape 7, into Firefox 2, Seamonkey 1.1; update IE6 into IE7 - References to Netscape 4.x should be upgraded... depending on what the German text says. - I believe even the reference to http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/ should be instead to http://developer.mozilla.org/de/docs/Hauptseite (deutsche) - Gecko DOM Referenzen is now at http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Gecko_DOM_Reference (english) - http://devedge.netscape.com (englisch) is now at http://devedge-temp.mozilla.org/index_en.html and it would be probably safer and wiser to indicate instead: http://developer.mozilla.org/de/docs/Hauptseite (deutsche) - http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2001/updating-dhtml-web-pages/ is located at http://devedge-temp.mozilla.org/viewsource/2001/updating-dhtml-web-pages/ but should probably be replaced by just a link to DHTML section at MDC - http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2002/browser-detection/ should be replaced with http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/upgrade_2.html#DevCrossBrowser or http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_Web_Standards_in_your_Web_Pages#Developing_cross_browser.2Fcross_platform_pages - http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2002/venkman/01/ should be http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Venkman CONFIRMING
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
I can understand the letter by reading the one in English. I'll make the changes via Doctor interface. Changes to do on top of those mentioned so far: - replace with <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html lang="de"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="de"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css"> - remove the Sidebar DevEdge references since these have not been made available at MDC so far - Add o Venkman at MDC http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Venkman o Learning the JavaScript debugger Venkman http://www.svendtofte.com/code/learning_venkman/ o Venkman Introduction http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Venkman_Introduction - add somewhere Mozilla Web Author FAQ http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html - replace "Die folgenden Ressourcen helfen Ihnen den Offenen Standard zu unterstützen und Ihre Webseiten mit Netscape 4.x und Microsoft's Internet Explorer korrekt anzuzeigen." with "Die folgenden Ressourcen helfen Ihnen den Offenen Standard zu unterstützen und Ihre Webseiten mit Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6 korrekt anzuzeigen." - replace "Alles was Sie über das Layer-Tag, document.all und alle anderen proprietären Erweiterungen wissen sollten und wie man damit in einer Cross-Browser Welt umgeht. http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2001/updating-dhtml-web-pages/ (englisch)" with "Alles was Sie über das document.all und alle anderen proprietären Erweiterungen wissen sollten und wie man damit in einer Cross-Browser Welt umgeht. http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_Web_Standards_in_your_Web_Pages (englisch) , http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Category:Web_Development (englisch)" -> me
Assignee: nobody → bugzilla
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Hello, some corrections (I'm German): "Die folgenden Ressourcen helfen Ihnen den Offenen Standard zu unterstützen und Ihre Webseiten mit Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6 korrekt anzuzeigen." Please replace "Microsoft's" with "Microsoft". "Alles was Sie über das document.all [...] in einer Cross-Browser Welt umgeht." should instead read: "Alles was Sie über document.all [...] in einer Cross-Browser-Welt umgeht." i.e. remove "das" and add a hyphen before "Welt". Thanks!
> (I'm German): That's wonderful :) and very helpful for non-speaking German people like me :) Timwi, I could do all the proposed changes in less than an hour thanks to Doctor interface. The thing I see is this: I should do the same changes (for consistency) in English and French letters too. And for doing that, - I should be reviewed by someone from Tech Evangelism, preferably the Tech Evangelism module owner (I think it's Bob Clary... not sure: Tech Evangelism is not listed in http://www.mozilla.org/owners.html) - I should open up a bugfile identifying changes done in all 3 language-letters so that other Evangelism letters in other languages eventually gets updated in the same way too I also believe the letters put too much emphasis on javascript as a language itself when more webpages fail in Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey/Camino because of DHTML usage like - document.all, - document.forms(0) instead of using document.forms[0] - document.all.id_attribute_value instead of document.getElementById(id_attribute_value) - id_attribute_value instead of document.getElementById(id_attribute_value) - FormName.InputName.value instead of document.forms["FormName"].InputName.value or document.forms["FormName"].elements["InputName"].value - etc. http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_Web_Standards_in_your_Web_Pages#Accessing_elements_with_the_W3C_DOM CC: Bob Clary
Depends on: 360302
See bug 360302
No longer depends on: 360302
There isn't an organized evangelism effort at the moment. I watch TE bugs and chime in occasionally but am not really involved anymore. It would be good to think about where we want to go with evangelism and move the existing evangelism content to match the goals and tactics, otherwise we should just remove most of the evangelism content on www.mozilla.org.
Depends on: 360302
thanks for cc'ing me. Ensuring we have up to date evangelism e-mail templates, and figuring out a way to recharge site evangelism, is on my list of things to do in a couple of weeks. Hope to get this going around the start of Dec. Keep the ideas going in bugs like this and others... I'll create at tracking bug and link this one in.
Depends on: 360565
Chris, I will update the email template letters this week and for all languages involved. It is on my to-do list. I would welcome you to review the proposed patch I did in bug 360302 (attachment 245352 [details] [diff] [review]). The patch is a safe one. The first part of bug 360565 (clean up old evangelism e-mail templates) is actually bug 360302 as far as I'm involved.
Checking in mozilla-org/html/projects/tech-evangelism/site/tech-letter-de.html; /cvsroot/mozilla-org/html/projects/tech-evangelism/site/tech-letter-de.html,v <-- tech-letter-de.html new revision: 1.2; previous revision: 1.1 done Timwi, can you check again to see if I have not missed anything, please? Thank you for your cooperation on this!
I've made a number of spelling and grammar corrections. There are still a few iffy wordings, but I'm not sure how to improve them.
Attached patch Patch — — Splinter Review
Patch to see what I've changed.
Timwi, I see you made the linked stylesheet referenced absolutely: from the beginning, I wondered why the link was relative. I inserted all the spelling and grammar corrections manually. So you may want to check again.
> I see you made the linked stylesheet referenced absolutely Whoops, I only did that so that I could view the file locally; I meant to change it back, sorry :)
Timwi, I'm closing this bug as every needed changes/correction (mostly updated links or resources) has been made. If there is a change or a correction to be done, then please say so in bug 360302. Resolving as FIXED
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 19 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Product: mozilla.org → Websites
Component: www.mozilla.org → General
Product: Websites → www.mozilla.org
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