35548 - "Netscape" in Mozilla APIs

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Core Graveyard :: Tracking, defect, P5)

Description

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Tracking bug.

Comment 1

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

BTW: If this is the wrong product/component, feel free to change it (also
applies to the dependant bug).

Comment 2

[Chris Waterson]

what does this bug mean, and why is it assigned to me?

Comment 3

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

> what does this bug mean,

The string "netscape" shouldn't appear in Mozilla APIs (excluding exceptions).

> why is it assigned to me?

This component was my best guess, and you are the default owner.

Comment 4

[Chris Waterson]

have at it.

Comment 5

[Dawn Endico]

moving from architecture to browser product since architecture is going away.

Comment 6

[Braden]

All of this meta bug's dependencies have been fixed. Isn't the idea to close
meta bugs as RESOLVED when that happens?

Comment 7

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Braden,
I completely disagree with the resolution of bug 17620. Also, we should first
check that we didn't miss some problems before closing this one.

Comment 8

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Changing personal priorities. Giving away most of my bugs :-( (reassigning to
default owner).

I will still track these bugs closely. If you need my input, feel free to ask me.

New owner: Please do *not* close these bugs (as WONTFIX or whatever you may
find) unless they are fixed. Rather, reassign to <[e-mail]>, if you
don't want to work on them.

Comment 9

[chris hofmann]

-> nobody.  if someone can write a tool that
will search the source for vendor specific strings
that need to be converted to references to mozilla
I'll monitor... 

Comment 10

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

What do you maan with "monitor"?

Creating a "tool" for bug 17620 shouldn't be hard - just grep and sed linked
together should suffice. I think, I figure that out. We should discuss in that bug.

Comment 11

[Fernando Cassia]

I totally disagree.

Why the anti-Netscape bias? Netscape started this project. Netscape is funding
it. Netscape is promoting it, and still suddenly "netscape" is a curse word??.

Look at Sun and their OpenOffice / StarOffice... OpenOffice is open source, YET,
when you check the "about..." you see "Copyright Sun Microsystems, and
openoffice.org contributors". That is an open source project not ashamed of
praising (instead of biting) the hand that feeds them.

I am seeing a small but growing anti-Netscape movement in the Mozilla.org
community, some extremists that wish that Netscape (the browser and the company)
"would just go away". In my opinipon, these elements are of little value to
Mozilla.org, and the development of corporate-sponsored open source projects.

I'm frankly tired of all the "remove Netscape"-bashing.  First it was Netscape
and now AOL who has spent a lot of money developing Mozilla -- true, there's
some amount of outside development, but the bulk of it has been funded by AOL
for use in their Netscape product.  The least you can do is lend a few kind words.

Personally, I use the Netscape-branded browser (Netscape 7 is a very good
browser on all three platforms) and I use their portal site.  You should, too. 
All of this stupid Slashdot groupthink of "Mozilla good, Netscape bad!"
completely ignores the fact that if there were no Netscape, there would be no
Mozilla.

Or the more likely scenario -- if AOL hadn't acquired Netscape, Netscape might
have gone out of business without the backing of a big tech player, and most of
you would be using Mozilla 0.2 right now.

Give Netscape some credit, folks, even if it means only the name of an API call.  

They're trying to be a good open source citizen.  Don't disappoint them with a
childish "take take take" attitude.

Just my $0.02
Fernando

Comment 12

[Alan Thomas]

Closing this bug. It's old, and nothing more is going to happen here.

Comment 13

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Indeed. Contract IDs now start with "@mozilla.org", there's a new C++ namespace mozilla::. We still have the "nsI", but we can live with that, until it's replaced with the mozilla:: namespace.