410300 - [non-English keyboard layout] Ctrl+] keyboard shortcut (aka Ctrl+AltGr+9) doesn't indent

Status: NEW

(Thunderbird :: Message Compose Window, defect)

Description

[Mikel Ward]

Running Thunderbird version 2.0.0.9 (20071031) on Windows Vista, if I edit a draft message, select some text, then press Ctrl+], nothing happens, but going to Format->Increase Indent works.  They should have the same effect.

Comment 1

[Thomas D. (:thomas8)]

tested TB version 2.0.0.24 (20100228)
tested TB 24.0a1 (2013-05-16)

* English keyboard layout:
wfm

* German keyboard layout
confirming as a bug:

I'm on a German keyboard layout where ] and [ alone already require pressing Ctrl+Alt, because they are the tertiary characters of 8 and 9 keys in top row. So I'm not actually sure what to press to get Ctrl+(Ctrl+Alt+8/9).
Any advice?

(Perhaps this requires different shortcuts for non-English keyboard layouts?)

Comment 2

[Thomas D. (:thomas8)]

(In reply to Thomas D. from comment #1)
> * German keyboard layout
> confirming as a bug:
> 
> I'm on a German keyboard layout where ] and [ alone already require pressing
> Ctrl+Alt, because they are the tertiary characters of 8 and 9 keys in top
> row. So I'm not actually sure what to press to get Ctrl+(Ctrl+Alt+8/9).
> Any advice?

...where Ctrl+Alt is same as [Alt Gr] key on German keyboards.
I think it's impossible to press Ctrl+[ on German keyboards, but I'd like to hear what others think.

Comment 3

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin]]

The Finnish keyboard is almost the same as the German. {[]} and so on are accessed with AltGr, i never used Ctrl+Alt to simulate AltGr and indeed it doesn't seem to work at least on linux. 

Since AltGr works I'd be tempted to just leave this as is.

Comment 4

[Thomas D. (:thomas8)]

(In reply to Magnus Melin from comment #3)
> The Finnish keyboard is almost the same as the German. {[]} and so on are
> accessed with AltGr, i never used Ctrl+Alt to simulate AltGr and indeed it
> doesn't seem to work at least on linux. 
> 
> Since AltGr works I'd be tempted to just leave this as is.

Thanks Magnus for quick reply. I'm not sure I understand:
- Leave what as is?
- And what doesn't work?
- And what exactly works for you? Does the shortcut work to trigger indenting?
- If yes, what keys are you pressing?

My problem is that I don't know which keys I should press to get the shortcut which TB expects to be Ctrl+]; I tried many combinations and none work to trigger indenting. Should I press:

Ctrl+AltGr+]? (where ] is the number key which has 9 and ] on it)

Will TB internally recognize that as Ctrl+]?

Comment 5

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin]]

On linux I can press Ctrl + AltGr + 9 to indent. Apparently that doesn't work on windows though. (Googling suggest the AltGr+ numbers may often be taken system wide by various drivers.)

The "leave as is" was for if it's only that you can't simulate AltGr with Ctrl+Alt and get the shortcut - while AltGr itself would work.

Comment 6

[:aceman]

I tried this on a non-English keyboard layout on Linux and when trying Ctrl+AltGr+] (AltGr+] being the combination that produces ] on this layout), the indenting does work.