[ru] Replace Rambler with Mail.ru in search engines list

RESOLVED FIXED

Status

Mozilla Localizations
ru / Russian
RESOLVED FIXED
10 years ago
7 years ago

People

(Reporter: Alexander L. Slovesnik, Assigned: Alexander L. Slovesnik)

Tracking

({productization})

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)

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Attachments

(2 attachments, 3 obsolete attachments)

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Description

10 years ago
Created attachment 357573 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch

On behalf of Mozilla Russia team, I'd like to ask to approve following changes in list of search plugins to be shipped by Firefox 3.1 in Russian.

Replace rambler.ru with gogo.ru

Rambler market share in Russia is 6-7% and have strong tendency to fall (according to http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/searches.html?slice=ru;id=9;date=2009-01-01;period=month Rambler market share dropped from 15% in Jan 2008 to 6% in Jan 2009, according to http://gs.spylog.ru/global-statistic-search-engines/ Rambler market share dropped from 9.4% in Aug 2008 to 7% in Dec 2008).
These stats clearly indicate that users are unsatisfied with Rambler search engine and migrate to another search engines. Future of Rambler search engine is uncertain (Rambler earlier considered to sell its advertising network to Google (see http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20080718_begun.html) and switch to Google search engine).

I've made some research and propose to replace Rambler search engine with Gogo.ru search engine. According to search engine analyze web service ( http://www.analyzethis.ru/?&lang=en ), GoGo has better positions in subject search and quotation search, have better filters for ambigious words and porn search etc. Also GoGo provides suggestions for correct spelling in case of typos and search suggestions (like Google and Yandex) (both of these features are unavailable in Rambler).
Attachment #357573 - Flags: review?(stas)
(Assignee)

Comment 1

10 years ago
Created attachment 357574 [details]
Gogo.ru search engine

Gogo.ru search engine, taken from http://gogo.ru/opensearch.xml and adjusted to Firefox requirements (for reference).
(Assignee)

Comment 2

10 years ago
Created attachment 357692 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch v.2

Mail.ru has updated Gogo.ru search plugin for including in Firefox 3.1 (can be downloaded from http://gogo.ru/searchpluginfx3.xml).
Attachment #357573 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #357574 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #357692 - Flags: review?(stas)
Attachment #357573 - Flags: review?(stas)
Keywords: productization
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Comment 3

9 years ago
Comment on attachment 357692 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch v.2

Removing review request
Attachment #357692 - Flags: review?(stas)
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Comment 4

9 years ago
Firefox 3.5 has been shipped ages ago, resolving this bug as WONTFIX.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 9 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
(Assignee)

Comment 5

8 years ago
As this bug is about replacing rambler.ru with mail.ru, reopening it per Bug 419213 comment 34:
-------------------------------------------------------
 Vladislav Shabanov      2010-01-30 08:57:56 PST

Alexander, can you, please, reopen this topic?

In last new months landscape of Russian web has been changed, now Mail.ru uses
its own search engine (former named gogo.ru) and Google as an advertising
system. May be you know that in past we use Yandex technolory for both search
and ads. 

As you can see in liveinternet,ru
or other statistics, our search engine has big market share, approx 10% of all
Russian queries processed by our engine:

http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/searches.html?period=month&slice=ru&id=5&id=9&show=%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C+%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BA&per_page=20&report=searches.html%3Fslice%3Dru%3Bperiod%3Dmonth

Now Rambler has only 3% share of market, but mail.ru has approx 10%.

So I asking Mozilla team to switch Rambler search provider in Russian build to
Mail.ru.
-------------------------------------------------------

AFAIK, Vladislav Shabanov is head of search department in Mail.ru

Mail.ru search site is http://go.mail.ru/
Opensearch plugin is http://go.mail.ru/opensearch.xml

Vladislav, can you confirm this information?
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Summary: [ru] Changes in search engine list for Firefox 3.1 → [ru] Replace Rambler with Mail.ru in search engines list
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Updated

8 years ago
Status: REOPENED → NEW
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Comment 6

8 years ago
Comment on attachment 357692 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch v.2

Obsoleting old patch
Attachment #357692 - Attachment is obsolete: true

Comment 7

8 years ago
Yes, I confirm :)

OpenSearch plugin at http://go.mail.ru/opensearch.xml
is correct, but please change ie8=1 to fr=ff3tb
(Assignee)

Comment 8

8 years ago
Created attachment 432310 [details] [diff] [review]
Replace Rambler with Mail.ru v.1

Patch v.1
Attachment #432310 - Flags: review?(stas)
(Assignee)

Comment 9

8 years ago
Created attachment 432311 [details]
Mail.ru search plugin
(Assignee)

Comment 10

8 years ago
Stas, ping. Can you please take a look at patch?
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Comment on attachment 432310 [details] [diff] [review]
Replace Rambler with Mail.ru v.1

Technically speaking, this looks good, r=me. Thanks for the patch and sorry for the wait.

The change from rambler.ru to mail.ru looks like a good one for our Russian users. Mail.ru is a popular service (it ranks second in Alexa's list of most visited websites in Russia), while rumbler.ru has seen a steady decline in visits over the past months (if not years?).

Unghost, can you land this on 1.9.3 (l10n-central), mentioning this bug and my review in the commit message?

Thanks!
Attachment #432310 - Flags: review?(stas) → review+
On second thought, I think it would be good to make this change on 1.9.2 as well. 

Pike, do we need anything else than the patch from this bug? Any changes required to removed-filed.in to remove rambler.xml?

Comment 13

8 years ago
If we don't ship rambler in any other build, we should add it to removed-files.in.

Probably should be a separate bug in Firefox Build config, blocked on this one.

And we should coordinate the landing. I'd say to not try to do this for 3.6.4 aka Lorentz, just because scary and stuff. In order to be able to take lorentz fixes for .4, though, I'd hold off with landing on 1.9.2 until we shipped 3.6.4 for good. I'd also need to chat with LegNeato and folks that landing one would impact an "accelerated release" of .5.
(Assignee)

Updated

8 years ago
Blocks: 560022
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Comment 14

8 years ago
Landed on trunk with http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ru/rev/fb76da47f634
I've filed Bug 560022 for removed-files.in issue.
(Assignee)

Comment 15

7 years ago
I think this bug can be resolved as fixed.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 9 years ago7 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED

Comment 16

7 years ago
Alexander, could you please clarify which release of FireFox will have Mail.Ru Search plugin instead of Rambler's one? Current official release 3.6.13 (russian localization), which is distributed from mozilla.org does not have this plugin.

Thanks!
(Assignee)

Comment 17

7 years ago
(In reply to comment #16)
> Alexander, could you please clarify which release of FireFox will have Mail.Ru
> Search plugin instead of Rambler's one?
Firefox 4.0

Comment 18

7 years ago
Alexander, thanks for that!

And also I would like to make a small suggestion about Mail.Ru search plugin title and branding. Now it is "Поиск@Mail.Ru", but a better and more clear title would be "Mail.Ru: поиск в Интернете".

Can this suggestion be considered in further builds?
(Assignee)

Comment 19

7 years ago
(In reply to comment #18)
> And also I would like to make a small suggestion about Mail.Ru search plugin
> title and branding. Now it is "Поиск@Mail.Ru", but a better and more clear
> title would be "Mail.Ru: поиск в Интернете".
> 
> Can this suggestion be considered in further builds?
File a new bug for this suggestion.
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