[es-AR] Choose search plug-ins for Fennec in Spanish (Argentina)

RESOLVED FIXED

Status

Mozilla Localizations
es-AR / Spanish (Argentina)
RESOLVED FIXED
9 years ago
4 years ago

People

(Reporter: stas, Assigned: Marcelo Poli)

Tracking

({productization})

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)

Details

(Whiteboard: [bootstrapped][twitter][mercado])

Attachments

(2 attachments)

(Reporter)

Description

9 years ago
You've indicated an interest in participating in the localization of mobile Firefox (aka Fennec). We want to ship Fennec with a good list of search engines for Spanish (Argentina). As the technical details of implementation are being worked on, we'd like to start the discussion about the choice of search engines. This bug is about agreeing on a set of search engines, and will not tackle the implementation (at least not yet).

First, the localization team and Staś will look at the market for the locale and come up with a good set of search providers. The guidelines for making recommendations are on https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Mobile/Productization. You're welcome to suggest engines already shipped in desktop Firefox for Spanish (Argentina), if they fit well in the categories outlined on the wiki.

For en-US, we currently use the following set, which may serve as an inspiration:
Google, Wikipedia, Amazon, Yahoo, Twitter.

Note that according to the guidelines, for some categories it may be better to leave them empty than to ship with en engine that's irrelevant or unavailable in your region.

After we decided on a particular search engine, we will need to test it in Fennec. You can test on a mobile device and on the desktop (download the builds from <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/>). Staś will help with testing on a device, too. If the service works fine, Staś will contact the owner and ask for permission, and for specifics like proper search flags. $name, we'll likely need your help to at least get the contact information if we don't have them already.

We don't know the implementation details yet, so for now, please don't create patches nor land anything. We will keep you posted as we figure out the how's and when's.

Thanks.

Comment 1

9 years ago
Hi Guys:  Just a friendly reminder, as we move closer to the general availability date for Fennec in mid-December, has your team had any chance to consider search providers?  Thanks!
(Reporter)

Comment 2

9 years ago
Created attachment 414637 [details] [diff] [review]
Bootstrapping search engines with Google, localized Wikipedia and Twitter

Here's a patch resetting the mobile/searchplugins/ directory to a minimal set of search engines that we would like to ship your locale with. Please read this comment carefully before you land this patch.

*Important*: There has been a change to how we use the  <Description/> elements present in the plug-ins (see bug 528655 and bug 529869). We want to emphasize that the search is integrated with the browser to better reflect what a search plugin is and what it does. You will need to edit the Wikipedia plug-in before you commit this patch. Please read <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Integrated_Search_Instructions> for detailed instructions.

For Google and Twitter, we don't have to copy the XML files to your mobile/searchplugins/ directory. Plugins identical to en-US are pulled from source automatically. It's enough to put the engine's name in list.txt for this to work (which I did). I also updated the Wikipedia plug-in to use a bigger icon, see bug 517997 for details.

Please edit the Wikipedia plug-in and commit this patch before you opt-in in the mozilla.dev.l10n newsgroup. Opt-ins without this patch will not be taken. This does not mean that we don't want to include other search engines. On the contrary, the work and the discussion will continue in this bug until we choose a good set of search engines for your locale. Then, you will be able to opt in again, so that in the final release we include more search engines than the mineral set from this patch.

This patch is simply meant to reset your mobile/searchplugins directory so that we keep the repository clean and happy.

Thanks for understanding!
(Assignee)

Comment 3

9 years ago
Just applied the patch and add the MercadoLibre search engine. That searchplugin is added in Firefox as they are eBay partners.
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
(Reporter)

Comment 4

9 years ago
Thanks Marcelo.

I see that you also added Yahoo.ar. Is there any better candidate for local (as in "give me all pizzerias near my location") search that you would recommned for Argentina?

Regarding Mercado Libre, I think that's a good candidate for e-commerce search. I tested the search and all looks good in Fennec. Mozilla has recently signed a deal with Mercado, so we will need to modify the search parameters in the plug-in. I'll attach a patch in a minute.
(Reporter)

Comment 5

9 years ago
Created attachment 417986 [details] [diff] [review]
New parameters for Mercado Libre

Marcelo, please land this patch on 1.9.2 with a descriptive commit message. When you land, please test and opt in in mozilla.dev.l10n.

(FYI: A similar change will be needed for the plug-in in Firefox, but that will be handled in a different bug, to be filed soon.)
Attachment #417986 - Flags: review+
(Assignee)

Comment 6

9 years ago
(In reply to comment #4)
> Thanks Marcelo.
> 
> I see that you also added Yahoo.ar. Is there any better candidate for local (as
> in "give me all pizzerias near my location") search that you would recommned
> for Argentina?
> 
We're just searching for that kind of sites. None found until now.
(Reporter)

Comment 7

9 years ago
Looks like Marcelo landed the patch from comment 5 in http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/es-AR/rev/36c2d22ed977. Thanks. 

Regarding Yahoo, I wonder if we could remove it from es-AR. We did this in en-US, too, because it wasn't really fitting into categories outlined in the guidelines (see <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Mobile/Productization>).

We'd still have a good set of 4 engines for es-AR: Google, Mercado, Wikipedia (es), Twitter. If there's no good candidate for local search for now, I'd stick to these 4. 

Marcelo, what do you think?
(Assignee)

Comment 8

9 years ago
I've just use the Firefox search plugins, but it's ok to remove Yahoo.
We'll stick to Google, Mercado, Wikipedia (es) and Twitter.
(Reporter)

Comment 9

9 years ago
Marcelo, I see that you already removed yahoo-ar from the hg: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/es-AR/rev/e8c4dd619405. Please keep in mind that such changes normally need to go through a review process here on bugzilla (i.e. you should attach a patch and ask for a review before landing the change).

The landing looks good though, so r=me a posteriori. Please opt in with the new revision in the newsgroup so that we can release Fennec es-AR: <http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.l10n/browse_frm/thread/14b445d12ea2ad21#>.

With Google, Mercado, Wikipedia (es) and Twitter, should we mark this bug as fixed and then file a new one if you find a good candidate for the local search?
Whiteboard: [bootstrapped][twitter][mercado]
(Assignee)

Comment 10

9 years ago
Sorry about Yahoo. I took comment 7 as an approval.
This bug is fixed. If a candidate for local search appears I'll open a new one.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 9 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
(Reporter)

Comment 11

9 years ago
Thanks Marcelo and sorry for misunderstanding about comment 7. 

I've just taken your opt-in, so everything is fine now :)
Hey Marcelo,

I just wanted to revisit this and make sure that you're ok with the current search setup within es-AR Fennec before we include it in the multilocale Fennec builds.

Thanks,
Jeff
Blocks: 979250
(Assignee)

Comment 13

4 years ago
@Jeff
It was fine. It's still fine.
We'll keep the current search plug-ins.
(In reply to Marcelo Poli from comment #13)
> @Jeff
> It was fine. It's still fine.
> We'll keep the current search plug-ins.

Great! Thanks Marcelo :-)
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