521999 - [lt] Choose search plug-ins for Fennec in Lithuanian

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: lt / Lithuanian, defect)

Description

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

You've indicated an interest in participating in the localization of mobile Firefox (aka Fennec). We want to ship Fennec with a good list of search engines for Lithuanian. As the technical details of implementation are being worked on, we'd like to start the discussion about the choice of search engines. This bug is about agreeing on a set of search engines, and will not tackle the implementation (at least not yet).

First, the localization team and Staś will look at the market for the locale and come up with a good set of search providers. The guidelines for making recommendations are on https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Mobile/Productization. You're welcome to suggest engines already shipped in desktop Firefox for Lithuanian, if they fit well in the categories outlined on the wiki.

For en-US, we currently use the following set, which may serve as an inspiration:
Google, Wikipedia, Amazon, Yahoo, Twitter.

Note that according to the guidelines, for some categories it may be better to leave them empty than to ship with en engine that's irrelevant or unavailable in your region.

After we decided on a particular search engine, we will need to test it in Fennec. You can test on a mobile device and on the desktop (download the builds from <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/>). Staś will help with testing on a device, too. If the service works fine, Staś will contact the owner and ask for permission, and for specifics like proper search flags. $name, we'll likely need your help to at least get the contact information if we don't have them already.

We don't know the implementation details yet, so for now, please don't create patches nor land anything. We will keep you posted as we figure out the how's and when's.

Thanks.

Comment 1

[Rimas Kudelis [use needinfo to ping]]

For desktop Firefox we used en-US defaults (except the localized Wikipedia). Though maybe I should invest some time to review that... 

Now, for mobile Firefox:
* Global general search – certainly Google.
* Reference search – certainly Wikipedia LT.
* E-commerce search – not sure yet.
* Local search – not sure yet
* Social search – either twitter, or perhaps blake.lt (also a microblogging website)

Comment 2

[Rimas Kudelis [use needinfo to ping]]

After some thinking and consulting with a few people:
* E-commerce search - pigu.lt
* Social search - twitter

The only uncertainty remaining is the local search. The best I can think of would be Google maps (it at least shows a few restaurants in Vilnius), but I'd probably go with the extra search instead. Right now I'm thinking of obuolys.lt, which is a movie/book review website, but we'd have to contact them to fix a few mobile layout bugs first.

Comment 3

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Attachment: [checked-in] Bootstrapping search engines with Google, localized Wikipedia and Twitter

Here's a patch resetting the mobile/searchplugins/ directory to a minimal set of search engines that we would like to ship your locale with. Please read this comment carefully before you land this patch.

*Important*: There has been a change to how we use the  <Description/> elements present in the plug-ins (see bug 528655 and bug 529869). We want to emphasize that the search is integrated with the browser to better reflect what a search plugin is and what it does. You will need to edit the Wikipedia plug-in before you commit this patch. Please read <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Integrated_Search_Instructions> for detailed instructions.

For Google and Twitter, we don't have to copy the XML files to your mobile/searchplugins/ directory. Plugins identical to en-US are pulled from source automatically. It's enough to put the engine's name in list.txt for this to work (which I did). I also updated the Wikipedia plug-in to use a bigger icon, see bug 517997 for details.

Please edit the Wikipedia plug-in and commit this patch before you opt-in in the mozilla.dev.l10n newsgroup. Opt-ins without this patch will not be taken. This does not mean that we don't want to include other search engines. On the contrary, the work and the discussion will continue in this bug until we choose a good set of search engines for your locale. Then, you will be able to opt in again, so that in the final release we include more search engines than the mineral set from this patch.

This patch is simply meant to reset your mobile/searchplugins directory so that we keep the repository clean and happy.

Thanks for understanding!

Comment 4

[Rimas Kudelis [use needinfo to ping]]

Comment on attachment 414657 [details] [diff] [review]
[checked-in] Bootstrapping search engines with Google, localized Wikipedia and Twitter

Checked in as:
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/lt/rev/38b316fc0f8b
http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/lt/rev/9c276cf22005

Comment 5

[Rimas Kudelis [use needinfo to ping]]

Thus bug has been dormant for long enough now, and I don't think I'll be willing to work on it anytime soon. Let's just leave it as is until someone new steps in.

Comment 6

[Ioana Chiorean]

Added TC for Lithuanian as it will be out with Firefox Mobile 27 
https://moztrap.mozilla.org/manage/case/11305/

Comment 7

[Rimas Kudelis [use needinfo to ping]]

I hope I'm not required to run the tests, am I?

Comment 8

[Ioana Chiorean]

(In reply to Rimas Kudelis from comment #7)
> I hope I'm not required to run the tests, am I?

No Rimas, no need to test them. 
We will do them (the mobile QA Team). We run them to be sure we have localized builds at beta in several languages (~30ish right now)