522003 - [pt-BR] Choose search plug-ins for Fennec in Portuguese (Brazil)

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: pt-BR / Portuguese (Brazil), defect)

Description

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

You've indicated an interest in participating in the localization of mobile Firefox (aka Fennec). We want to ship Fennec with a good list of search engines for Portuguese (Brazil). As the technical details of implementation are being worked on, we'd like to start the discussion about the choice of search engines. This bug is about agreeing on a set of search engines, and will not tackle the implementation (at least not yet).

First, the localization team and Staś will look at the market for the locale and come up with a good set of search providers. The guidelines for making recommendations are on https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Mobile/Productization. You're welcome to suggest engines already shipped in desktop Firefox for Portuguese (Brazil), if they fit well in the categories outlined on the wiki.

For en-US, we currently use the following set, which may serve as an inspiration:
Google, Wikipedia, Amazon, Yahoo, Twitter.

Note that according to the guidelines, for some categories it may be better to leave them empty than to ship with en engine that's irrelevant or unavailable in your region.

After we decided on a particular search engine, we will need to test it in Fennec. You can test on a mobile device and on the desktop (download the builds from <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/>). Staś will help with testing on a device, too. If the service works fine, Staś will contact the owner and ask for permission, and for specifics like proper search flags. We'll likely need your help to at least get the contact information if we don't have them already.

We don't know the implementation details yet, so for now, please don't create patches nor land anything. We will keep you posted as we figure out the how's and when's.

Thanks.

Comment 1

[Seth Bindernagel]

Hi Guys:  Just a friendly reminder, as we move closer to the general availability date for Fennec in mid-December, has your team had any chance to consider search providers?  Thanks!

Comment 2

[Jeferson Hultmann]

I think we should follow en-US search plugins, except for Amazon:

Google
Wikipedia (pt)
Yahoo
Twitter

Comment 3

[Seth Bindernagel]

(In reply to comment #2)
> I think we should follow en-US search plugins, except for Amazon:
> 
> Google
> Wikipedia (pt)
> Yahoo
> Twitter

Thanks, Jeferson.  Looks good.  Stas may have some follow up, including getting permission from the providers that we can do this.  I'll let him contact here next.

Comment 4

[Jeferson Hultmann]

It is worth to mention that Yahoo pt-BR is different from en-US:

http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.1/pt-BR/file/7b2d09e7a5cd/browser/searchplugins/yahoo-br.xml

Comment 5

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Attachment: Bootstrapping search engines with Google, localized Wikipedia and Twitter

Here's a patch resetting the mobile/searchplugins/ directory to a minimal set of search engines that we would like to ship your locale with. Please read this comment carefully before you land this patch.

*Important*: There has been a change to how we use the  <Description/> elements present in the plug-ins (see bug 528655 and bug 529869). We want to emphasize that the search is integrated with the browser to better reflect what a search plugin is and what it does. You will need to edit the Wikipedia plug-in before you commit this patch. Please read <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Integrated_Search_Instructions> for detailed instructions.

For Google and Twitter, we don't have to copy the XML files to your mobile/searchplugins/ directory. Plugins identical to en-US are pulled from source automatically. It's enough to put the engine's name in list.txt for this to work (which I did). I also updated the Wikipedia plug-in to use a bigger icon, see bug 517997 for details.

Please edit the Wikipedia plug-in and commit this patch before you opt-in in the mozilla.dev.l10n newsgroup. Opt-ins without this patch will not be taken. This does not mean that we don't want to include other search engines. On the contrary, the work and the discussion will continue in this bug until we choose a good set of search engines for your locale. Then, you will be able to opt in again, so that in the final release we include more search engines than the mineral set from this patch.

This patch is simply meant to reset your mobile/searchplugins directory so that we keep the repository clean and happy.

Thanks for understanding!

Comment 6

[Jeferson Hultmann]

http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/pt-BR/rev/cfdca9d72c46

Will Yahoo be shipped with pt-BR?

Comment 7

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

(In reply to comment #6)
> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/pt-BR/rev/cfdca9d72c46

Thank you.

> Will Yahoo be shipped with pt-BR?

Yes, we should work on a patch to add it. The patch that I created was meant simply to create a good start for us. 

Can you please create a patch adding yahoo (pt-BR) to mobile/searchplugins?

You can take the exisiting plugin from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.1/pt-BR/file/7b2d09e7a5cd/browser/searchplugins/yahoo-br.xml but please edit or remove the description from it (just like you did for Wikipedia) and change the icon to this one: <http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser/file/6c6ba58c1d7f/locales/en-US/searchplugins/yahoo.xml>.

Thanks!

Comment 8

[Jeferson Hultmann]

Attachment: yahoo-br search plugin

Comment 9

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Comment on attachment 415289 [details] [diff] [review]
yahoo-br search plugin

Thank you Jeferson, r=me. Please land this patch and opt in with the new revision in the Fennec 1.0 opt in thread in m.d.l10n.

Should we close this bug as fixed now?

Comment 10

[Jeferson Hultmann]

http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/pt-BR/rev/439239c5b437

I think it's done!