Closed Bug 522012 Opened 11 years ago Closed 8 years ago

[zh-TW] Choose search plug-ins for Fennec in Chinese (Traditional)

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(Mozilla Localizations :: zh-TW / Chinese (Traditional), defect)

defect
Not set

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(Not tracked)

RESOLVED FIXED

People

(Reporter: stas, Assigned: timdream)

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Details

(Keywords: productization, Whiteboard: [bootstrapped])

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You've indicated an interest in participating in the localization of mobile Firefox (aka Fennec). We want to ship Fennec with a good list of search engines for Chinese (Traditional). As the technical details of implementation are being worked on, we'd like to start the discussion about the choice of search engines. This bug is about agreeing on a set of search engines, and will not tackle the implementation (at least not yet).

First, the localization team and Staś will look at the market for the locale and come up with a good set of search providers. The guidelines for making recommendations are on https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Mobile/Productization. You're welcome to suggest engines already shipped in desktop Firefox for Chinese (Traditional), if they fit well in the categories outlined on the wiki.

For en-US, we currently use the following set, which may serve as an inspiration:
Google, Wikipedia, Amazon, Yahoo, Twitter.

Note that according to the guidelines, for some categories it may be better to leave them empty than to ship with en engine that's irrelevant or unavailable in your region.

After we decided on a particular search engine, we will need to test it in Fennec. You can test on a mobile device and on the desktop (download the builds from <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/>). Staś will help with testing on a device, too. If the service works fine, Staś will contact the owner and ask for permission, and for specifics like proper search flags. We'll likely need your help to at least get the contact information if we don't have them already.

We don't know the implementation details yet, so for now, please don't create patches nor land anything. We will keep you posted as we figure out the how's and when's.

Thanks.
Hi Guys:  Just a friendly reminder, as we move closer to the general availability date for Fennec in mid-December, has your team had any chance to consider search providers?  Thanks!
Seth,

During offline discussion yesterday, here is what we came up:
*General Search:
Yahoo! Taiwan (Mobile) - http://tw.m.yahoo.com/
*General Research:
Wikipedia (zh)
* Local Search:
Google Local Taiwan
* Social Search:
Facebook

We decided to ship just four search engines because e-commerce and special interest websites we had in mind does not meet the guidelines. We'll contact them on these matters.


Tim
Thanks, Tim.  That seems like a very logical set of search providers. Please send me and/or Stas a copy of the confirmation from the providers.  (With translation, please!  :) ) 

Out of curiosity, does Twitter have any popularity in Taiwan?
Twitter is less popular than Plurk in Taiwan, as far as I know.
Should Plurk be included in Fennec?
Here's a patch resetting the mobile/searchplugins/ directory to a minimal set of search engines that we would like to ship your locale with. Please read this comment carefully before you land this patch.

*Important*: There has been a change to how we use the  <Description/> elements present in the plug-ins (see bug 528655 and bug 529869). We want to emphasize that the search is integrated with the browser to better reflect what a search plugin is and what it does. You will need to edit the Wikipedia plug-in before you commit this patch. Please read <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Integrated_Search_Instructions> for detailed instructions.

For Google, we don't have to copy the XML file to your mobile/searchplugins/ directory. Plugins identical to en-US are pulled from source automatically. It's enough to put the engine's name in list.txt for this to work (which I did). I also updated the Wikipedia plug-in to use a bigger icon, see bug 517997 for details.

Please edit the Wikipedia plug-in and commit this patch before you opt-in in the mozilla.dev.l10n newsgroup. Opt-ins without this patch will not be taken. This does not mean that we don't want to include other search engines. On the contrary, the work and the discussion will continue in this bug until we choose a good set of search engines for your locale. Then, you will be able to opt in again, so that in the final release we include more search engines than the mineral set from this patch.

This patch is simply meant to reset your mobile/searchplugins directory so that we keep the repository clean and happy.

Thanks for understanding!
(In reply to comment #5)
> Should Plurk be included in Fennec?

Plurk doesn't provide search result page on their mobile web.

The general website is too dynamic to be view by Fennec IMO, e.g. http://www.plurk.com/psearch#q=mozilla

Tim
Tim, 

Actually they do provide search page in mobile site :P
http://www.plurk.com/m/s/?query=test

Seth,

It would be good to put Plurk in default bookmark/recommanded mobile sites/something like that, but I'm not sure if people wanna search in microblog when use mobile browser.

Also, is zh-TW the only locale would like to ship with Facebook and Google Local Search? If not, should we (all locales) contact them separately, or Mozilla can help to do this?
(In reply to comment #6)
> Created an attachment (id=414635) [details]
> Bootstrapping search engines with Google and localized Wikipedia

http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/zh-TW/rev/a30dbd282070
http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/zh-TW/rev/f31533173d8e

Committed bootstrapping search engines to l10n-mozilla-1.9.2 and l10n-central.

Leave as NEW until local search engines can be done.
Thanks for landing the patch. In the wikipedia plugin, I see that you left the
description line commented out. You can now choose to do one of the following:

* remove this line completely (generic "Integrated search" string will be
used), or
* uncomment it and make the translation read something to the effect of
"Integrated search on Wikipedia".

Please make the decision and commit a change to the wikipedia-zh-TW.xml file.
Thanks!
(In reply to comment #10)
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/zh-TW/rev/e4b27a589296
Already done :)

I was going to wait for nightly builds to show up and commit the revision.
(In reply to comment #11)
> (In reply to comment #10)
> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/zh-TW/rev/e4b27a589296
> Already done :)

Thanks Tim!
Whiteboard: [bootstrapped]
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 8 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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