Closed Bug 528104 Opened 15 years ago Closed 8 years ago

[nb-NO] Choose search plug-ins for Fennec in Norwegian bokmål

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(Mozilla Localizations :: nb-NO / Norwegian Bokmål, defect)

defect
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normal

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(Not tracked)

RESOLVED FIXED

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(Reporter: sethb, Assigned: bokmaal)

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Details

(Keywords: productization, Whiteboard: [bootstrapped][twitter])

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You've indicated an interest in participating in the localization of mobile Firefox (aka Fennec). We want to ship Fennec with a good list of search engines for nb-NO. As the technical details of implementation are being worked on, we'd like to start the discussion about the choice of search engines. This bug is about agreeing on a set of search engines, and will not tackle the implementation (at least not yet).

First, the localization team and Staś will look at the market for the locale and come up with a good set of search providers. The guidelines for making recommendations are on https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Mobile/Productization. You're welcome to suggest engines already shipped in desktop Firefox for nb-NO, if they fit well in the categories outlined on the wiki.

For en-US, we currently use the following set, which may serve as an inspiration:
Google, Wikipedia, Amazon, Yahoo, Twitter.

Note that according to the guidelines, for some categories it may be better to leave them empty than to ship with en engine that's irrelevant or unavailable in your region.

After we decided on a particular search engine, we will need to test it in Fennec. You can test on a mobile device and on the desktop (download the builds from <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/>). Staś will help with testing on a device, too. If the service works fine, Staś will contact the owner and ask for permission, and for specifics like proper search flags.  Håvard and Bjørn, we'll likely need your help to at least get the contact information if we don't have them already.

We don't know the implementation details yet, so for now, please don't create patches nor land anything. We will keep you posted as we figure out the how's and when's.

Thanks.
Here's a patch resetting the mobile/searchplugins/ directory to a minimal set of search engines that we would like to ship your locale with. Please read this comment carefully before you land this patch.

*Important*: There has been a change to how we use the  <Description/> elements present in the plug-ins (see bug 528655 and bug 529869). We want to emphasize that the search is integrated with the browser to better reflect what a search plugin is and what it does. You will need to edit the Wikipedia plug-in before you commit this patch. Please read <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Integrated_Search_Instructions> for detailed instructions.

For Google and Twitter, we don't have to copy the XML files to your mobile/searchplugins/ directory. Plugins identical to en-US are pulled from source automatically. It's enough to put the engine's name in list.txt for this to work (which I did). I also updated the Wikipedia plug-in to use a bigger icon, see bug 517997 for details.

Please edit the Wikipedia plug-in and commit this patch before you opt-in in the mozilla.dev.l10n newsgroup. Opt-ins without this patch will not be taken. This does not mean that we don't want to include other search engines. On the contrary, the work and the discussion will continue in this bug until we choose a good set of search engines for your locale. Then, you will be able to opt in again, so that in the final release we include more search engines than the mineral set from this patch.

This patch is simply meant to reset your mobile/searchplugins directory so that we keep the repository clean and happy.

Thanks for understanding!
landed patch 414647 for nb-NO, with modifications to wikipedia-NO description field.
Referring to previous patch landing: Landed an additional update to wikipedia-NO, removing the description element altogether.
Referring to previous e-mail discussion - We'd like to use the following set of search engines for nb-NO and nn-NO

1. Google
2. Wikipedia
3. Kelkoo
4. Telefonkatalogen
5. Twitter

For Kelkoo.no, a "press contact" is available at:
http://www.kelkoo.no/co_13336-pressekontakter.html
This person might be able to connect you with the correct people.

Telefonkatalogen is quite popular in Norway. There are no competition on the area. The information in Telefonkatalogen is generally considered to be reliable.

Unfortunately, the name "Telefonkatalogen" can not be abbreviated easily. From a usability perspective, it may be shortened to "Telefonnr". I'm not sure if there are trademark issues to consider.
Whiteboard: [bootstrapped][twitter]
We'd like to revise the suggested search engines list (for nb-NO and nn-NO) in Comment 4 to the following:

1. Google
2. Wikipedia
3. Kelkoo
4. Twitter
5. 1890.no
6. Ordbok
7. Yr.no

Change is:
* Dropping Telefonkatalogen (16 chars), and introducing 1890.no (7 chars) instead.
* In order to compensate for the shorter content, we also want to have the following search engines: Ordbok (6 chars) and, if feasible, Yr.no (5).

Kelkoo - Kelkoo offers price comparisons, and we believe it's a good "e-commerce portal" for the norwegian market.

1890.no is also a phone number information service in Norway, basing their listings on the same data (from phone operators) provided to also several other information services.

Ordbok (http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/ordboksoek/ordbok.cgi) is a dictionary already used in desktop Firefox.
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.2/nb-NO/file/b5f5226521a9/browser/searchplugins/bok-NO.xml

Yr.no (http://yr.no/) is a weather service, also well-known, and we feel it is relevant and helpful for norwegians, as the norwegian climate can be quickly varying in large parts of the country.
We feel that placing awareness for this helpful service will improve the overall Firefox experience, as it will make the information more easily available.
One uncertainty about this service is that it might work better as a bookmark than a search service.

I hope that the suggested replacing of Telefonkatalogen with 1890.no doesn't create any headaches for you.
Closing this old bug. Please open a new one if needed.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 8 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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