535901 - Create mozilla.feedback.firefox.mobile and mozilla.feedback.firefox.mobile.prerelease

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(mozilla.org :: Discussion Forums, task)

Description

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

See bug 535871.

We currently have, for Firefox, 3 groups which get Hendrix feedback:
mozilla.feedback                    (development builds - Minefield)
mozilla.feedback.firefox.prerelease (alphas and betas - Shiretoko, Namoroka etc.)
mozilla.feedback.firefox            (final releases)

How does this map to the Fennec development process?

Do we want the group base name to be
mozilla.feedback.fennec
or
mozilla.feedback.firefox.mobile
? Remember, these feedback-receiving groups are seen by developers, not end-users. So perhaps fennec would be more familiar? But perhaps firefox.mobile is more consistent?

Do we also need a mozilla.feedback.???.prerelease or is it OK to just put all feedback in one group?

Gerv

Comment 1

[Aakash Desai [:aakashd]]

mobile.firefox and mobile.firefox.prerelease should be fine

Comment 2

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

OK.

This bug is:

please create the following discussion group triples:

mozilla.feedback.firefox.mobile
mozilla.feedback.firefox.mobile.prerelease

Over to server ops.

Gerv

Comment 3

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

Gerv,

Just the discussion groups or the usual list + newsgroups?

Comment 4

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

The usual. Always the usual. "Discussion group" is the general terminology I use for "newsgroup + mailing list + Google Group". Can you think of a better one?

Gerv

Comment 5

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

No, but I like to make sure :) I'll remember "Discussion group" from now on :D

Comment 6

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

Gerv,

Initial list admins for these?

Comment 7

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Hmm, has this not happened? What has been the delay?

What does the list admin do? If it's just "say 'no, this is spam' to a few messages each week" like I have to do for the three groups I admin, can't we just have some sort of auto-reject mechanism? These groups are only for Hendrix to post to.

Gerv

Comment 8

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

Well, Mailman needs a list admin to create the list. The other feedback lists have beltzner as the admin for example.

Comment 9

[Aakash Desai [:aakashd]]

So, would it be up to the list admin to create a spam list? If so, how would the admin request to populate a list of spammers to block from posting to the group?

Comment 10

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

I don't see where you guys are coming from with respect to admin = spam manager. Mailing lists by design have a list admin, who has a number of tasks including but not limited to managing the subscribers/content for example.

I need an email address, so I can get this going. The list need not have any members or it might need hendrix (whatever that is, I have no clue) added to the list so it can post to the list (which I gather is the main reason to have the list). 

So the admin's task here is :

1) Make sure the list isn't open (IT can do this too)
2) Add hendrix as the subscriber
3) Profit

I don't see where spam/spam fighting is an admin task as such.

I checked yesterday to see that the feedback-firefox list has beltzner as the admin, as I mentioned in comment #8. I don't think there is any *real* admin tasks involved as such, but I'd ask him or someone else to be sure.

I'm blocked till I have an admin email address, if you guys want a list :)

Comment 11

[Aakash Desai [:aakashd]]

Add me as the admin then. Keep the list open for now as we might have more people coming in to view the messages. :)

Comment 12

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

I guess what I'm worried about is that mailman spams _me_ daily with a message for each list I'm the admin of, telling me there's a queue of almost-always-spam I need to deal with. I didn't want to subject anyone else, or myself, to more of that. But if beltzner is the admin of the other lists, I guess we could use him, or Aakash :-)

Gerv

Comment 13

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

Lists done, waiting on Giganews and Google.

Comment 14

[Shyam Mani [:fox2mike]]

Both done, closing.