704040 - mobile developer tools download link out of date

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Description

[Luke Crouch [:groovecoder]]

The "Download for Mac OS X" link at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/ points at Firefox 4.0.1 when the latest release is 8.0?

Comment 1

[Aaron Train [:aaronmt]]

Latest release is now 9.0; and those desktop builds are not even supported (XUL). Should these even be listed anymore? CC'ing Jaclyn/Finkle

Comment 2

[Jaclyn Fu]

So all developer tool builds are no longer supported? If so, we should remove this section - are there other developer tools for Native UI we should point them to instead?

Comment 3

[mcbmoz]

(In reply to Jaclyn Fu from comment #2)
> So all developer tool builds are no longer supported? If so, we should
> remove this section - are there other developer tools for Native UI we
> should point them to instead?

Jaclyn, I would advise eliminating this content from the page all-together. The audience isn't developer-focused, so it's not necessarily supporting the best experience we can provide. Instead, we can work with the MDN team on developer-engagement.

Comment 4

[Mark Finkle (:mfinkle) (use needinfo?)]

(In reply to mcbmoz from comment #3)
> (In reply to Jaclyn Fu from comment #2)
> > So all developer tool builds are no longer supported? If so, we should
> > remove this section - are there other developer tools for Native UI we
> > should point them to instead?

It's not as easy. I have a blog post about using the emulator to run the native app on a desktop:
http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2011/11/firefox-for-android-using-the-android-emulator/

> Jaclyn, I would advise eliminating this content from the page all-together.
> The audience isn't developer-focused, so it's not necessarily supporting the
> best experience we can provide. Instead, we can work with the MDN team on
> developer-engagement.

I agree.

Comment 5

[Jaclyn Fu]

Ok - Chrissie let's rework this section to point them to the proper MDN resources then? Should we do some copy + link/button or something else?

Comment 6

[mcbmoz]

(In reply to Jaclyn Fu from comment #5)
> Ok - Chrissie let's rework this section to point them to the proper MDN
> resources then? Should we do some copy + link/button or something else?

I'd advise that we should eliminate the content that's there and not replace it. Instead keep things simple, which makes l10n simpler too. MDN isn't localized.

Let's fire up an email thread with Stormy to let her know that we took this away, and ask her what her thoughts are on replacing the content in a future release, where it would help her engagement efforts. This page isn't a developer destination, so I'm thinking this ends up benefiting the user with a cleaner content strategy.

Comment 7

[Luke Crouch [:groovecoder]]

(In reply to mcbmoz from comment #6)
"MDN isn't localized."

Say what? That's news to me - I have to extract new localization strings every time we push MDN code. :)

Comment 8

[mcbmoz]

(In reply to Luke Crouch [:groovecoder] from comment #7)
> (In reply to mcbmoz from comment #6)
> "MDN isn't localized."

Content localizeded in:

el      
es      
fr      
fy-nl      
hu        
id
hr 
ga-ie
ja        
ko       
nl       
pl    
pt-br       
pt-pt        
ro
sq    
th       
zh-cn
zh-tw

> Say what? That's news to me - I have to extract new localization strings
> every time we push MDN code. :)

However, the /mobile content is not localized over to the wiki, ex: https://developer.mozilla.org/fr/mobile, so it would still not be a full solution at this time.

Comment 9

[mcbmoz]

Back over to Jaclyn -

are you good to reduce the content on the current page, taking out:

developer tools

replacing with

Need help? Visit our Firefox for Android Support site. (moving that bit of text into the box to keep the symmetry)

Comment 10

[Jaclyn Fu]

Sounds good. Are we going to use a link or a button to get them to SUMO?

Comment 12

[Jaclyn Fu]

This is going to get resolved with the next update: Bug 724054

Change:

Replacing the Developer Tools content box with SUMO content, and removing the "Need help?" line (above "Want to test the latest features?"): 

Content that will replace the Developer Tools module: 
header: Need Help?
button: Visit our Firefox for Android Support site [links to http://support.mozilla.org/mobile]

If it's ok, going to close out!

Comment 14

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

This is not fixed yet.

Comment 15

[Jaclyn Fu]

hashing it out in Bug 717741 to update on MDN

Comment 16

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

The page has been redesigned and those links have gone.