760823 - [hr] Localize Get Involved page + video + email responses

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: L10N, defect)

Description

[David Boswell]

Opening bug to track creating a pilot localization of the Get Involved page.  Additional background information available at bug 743746.

Comment 1

[nikola.matosovic]

Hi!

Can someone, please, give me once again link to stuff that should be translated
and tell me exactly what should be done?

Also, I'll upload that scheme I promised in previous bug here in this one.

Comment 2

[David Boswell]

(In reply to Nikola Matosović from comment #1)
> Can someone, please, give me once again link to stuff that should be
> translated and tell me exactly what should be done?

Nikola, apologies for any confusion around this.

Pascal, can you provide some direction about how localizers can start working on this content?  Thanks.

Comment 3

[nikola.matosovic]

I'll try to reach Pascal on IRC for further instructions. 

I'm embarrassed that I still haven't moved forward with this for such a long time. :S

Getting on it!

Comment 4

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

A draft was already done by Sasa last week:
http://www-dev.allizom.org/b/hr/contribute/

Nikola will work with him on improving it.

Comment 5

[David Boswell]

(In reply to Pascal Chevrel:pascalc from comment #4)
> A draft was already done by Sasa last week:
> http://www-dev.allizom.org/b/hr/contribute/

That's very exciting to see this on the dev site :)

Comment 6

[nikola.matosovic]

Improvement forwarded to Saša, we expect to see it up soon. :)

Comment 7

[David Boswell]

There is some documentation about localization on Bedrock at

http://bedrock.readthedocs.org/en/latest/l10n.html

This may or may not answer any technical questions people have, but hopefully it helps.

Comment 8

[Sasa Tekovic]

Hi,

I'm going through opened bugs for Croatian (hr) locale... This one is fixed, isn't it?

Cheers!

Comment 9

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

There are changes to the page coming soon (/ex the contribute/area.html page will be merged into this contribute pages)

Comment 10

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

The contribute.lang file was updated with new paragraphs, I also added an email folder to your repo, it contains short text files that are the email responses automatically sent to people sending a message through the form:
http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/locales/hr/emails/

Comment 11

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Sasa,

Any update on this?

Comment 12

[Sasa Tekovic]

Here you go Brian. The translation is finished and committed (rev. 111355).

Comment 13

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Pascal,

When will this go live? Can we close this one?

Comment 14

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Current status: waiting for the email to use with the form, and the hr team are thinking about their process before going live.

Comment 15

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Pull request sent for email at the back of the form for HR:

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/656

Comment 16

[[github robot]]

Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/0ccf481ae0367761165beaada5f9d1e948217074
Bug 760823 : Email for hr contribute form

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/2cb3406c5e8ea8ee7836ee83fb6b1f71266536b6
Merge pull request #656 from brianking/contribute

Bug 760823 : Email for hr contribute form

Comment 17

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Niko,

I'm assigning this to you as I know you are currently tweaking the email responses.

Let me know when you are done and we can push this live. Thanks.

Comment 18

[Brian King [:kinger]]

There is one more file to be done:

http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/trunk/locales/hr/mozorg/15years.lang?view=log

These are the 15 facts about Mozilla for our 15 years campaign. This will ensure you'll be using our latest design for this page. See https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/.

Comment 19

[Niko Višnjić]

Attachment: Updated 15 facts for Mozilla 15

Comment 20

[Sasa Tekovic]

I've commited Niko's translation of 15 Mozilla facts with some minor tweaks. See rev. 115409.

Comment 21

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Pascal,

Can you make this live please?

Comment 22

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

activated in r115541

Comment 23

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

The 15 anniversary template needs to be activated in Bedrock too, for the moment the regular template it used. Also, the 15 years graphics should be created, added to the code repo and a css rule be added to use it instead of English.

Comment 24

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Pascal,

Do you know where the template is for the graphic? I looked in https://assets.mozillalabs.com/Projects/Mozilla%2015%20Years/ but am not sure the right one is there.

Comment 25

[Niko Višnjić]

Attachment: Mozilla 15 years Logo

Remixed by our skilled designer, Lucija Zlopasa.

There are a couple of possible translations/slogans.
Choose which one you prefer and we'll post the .png for upload (to assets also?).

Comment 26

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Comment on attachment 744718 [details]
Mozilla 15 years Logo

Looks ok to my eyes, but would like input from Lee as well.

Comment 27

[Lee Tom]

Hi all, I think the ribbon banners look great. The only image I think looks a bit off to me, is the circular badge. 
Here's a transparent PNG you can use: http://cl.ly/image/210V430N2L3o

You can find the source file here:
https://assets.mozillalabs.com/Projects/Mozilla%2015%20Years/Logo/Source%20File/
which contains the circular badge.

Comment 28

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

I will need a png logo for the site so as to move this bug forward.

Comment 29

[Niko Višnjić]

Ok, I'll get on it.

Which slogan do you want on it?
Sasa?

Comment 30

[Sasa Tekovic]

Niko, "15 godina boljeg weba" (15 years of a better web) seems the most appropriate, so my vote goes for this one.

Comment 31

[Lucija Zlopaša]

Attachment: 15 mozila cro-logo

Sorry for the delay. :)

Comment 32

[Niko Višnjić]

Hi all,

A bug was found in the auto-response email functionality, it does not send emails to people that sign up at the contribute form on the localized contribute page.

The emails were translated into Croatian and uploaded a while ago.

Please fix this ASAP, thanks.

Comment 33

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Hi Niko,
looks like your email templates were in the wrong place. I fixed this in r116380 and removed one obsolete paragraph from design.txt

Can you please test this in a few hours and get back to me with the results?

Comment 34

[Niko Višnjić]

Hey Francesco,
Tested it and it works like a charm. 
Thanks for the promptness and fixing the design email.

Just to point out, we have the two missing emails for the website that weren't in the template (IT and Localization).
They live here (with all the rest of the email translations):
https://mozhr.etherpad.mozilla.org/5

If somebody with commit rights could upload those that would be mighty fine. 
Also, Sale please review the two new ones.

Comment 35

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Hi Niko, I don't have access to that etherpad. 

If you want, you can attach those 2 files here and I'll commit them for you.

Comment 36

[Niko Višnjić]

Attachment: Lozalized auto-response emails

The last two are of interest (Localization and IT)

Comment 37

[Niko Višnjić]

@Francesco:

I've refrained from uploading them in a text file because it breaks the formatting, but I guess this is a good way to archive them.
Anyway, the last two email bodies are of interest (they go without the captions) and are both corrected in formatting so feel free too upload them as you please.
Sale will review them in due time.

In any case, thanks a lot. :)

Comment 38

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Hi,
I think it's easier to check files on SVN since they need to be converted at some point. I upload two new files in r116383.

With IT you mean CODING? Because that's the closest option I found.

Comment 39

[Niko Višnjić]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #38)
> 
> With IT you mean CODING? Because that's the closest option I found.
Precisely, thanks.

I guess I should come back later and check if these two autoresponses are being sent in a while, they aren't working ATM.

Is any further activation required for them to work?

Comment 40

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

It's expected: I uploaded them only on trunk, not pushed yet to production, because I wanted you to check them ;-)

Comment 41

[Niko Višnjić]

Understood.

They're fine by me. You can push them to production whenever you like. :)

Comment 42

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Done, please try later and check if everything works as expected.

Since it's also related to this bug, can you check 15years.lang too? It's currently missing 3 strings for ht

http://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~pascalc/langchecker/?locale=hr#mozorg/15years.lang

Comment 43

[Niko Višnjić]

Attachment: Final update 15years.lang

Updated version, all strings translated

Comment 44

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Still missing one

;Our global community has helped translate Firefox into over 70 languages, making the browser available to more than 90% of the world's population.

Comment 45

[Niko Višnjić]

Attachment: Final update 15years.lang

Fixed

Comment 46

[Niko Višnjić]

Mkey,

So I've tested all the auto-responses and they work for all categories, except the issues category, oh the sweet irony.

BTW, for future similar functionalities, I think it would be immensely helpful if we could automate testing for them. Would've saved me a whole lot of repetitive work :)

Comment 47

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Niko Višnjić from comment #46)
> So I've tested all the auto-responses and they work for all categories,
> except the issues category, oh the sweet irony.

Interesting. Looks like it expects a file called "issues", not "issue". I'll have to check with webdev, considering all locales are currently using "issue.txt" (and then are supposedly broken).

Comment 48

[Niko Višnjić]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #47)
> 
> Interesting. Looks like it expects a file called "issues", not "issue". I'll
> have to check with webdev, considering all locales are currently using
> "issue.txt" (and then are supposedly broken).
That idea crossed my mind yes. Oh well, then I'd have to say that could be a major issue. ;)

Comment 49

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Fixed in r116393 (and tested to)

Comment 50

[Niko Višnjić]

Nice, I've received the mail and can confirm it works as expected.

Now, if only we could clean the mess we made on the http://arewegrowingyet.com/ stats for Croatia. Not sure that this is in any way important, but I generally like to have my data straight (facts too).
If you don't think it's relevant feel free to ignore this plead.

Thanks Francesco once again for the fixes! :)

Comment 51

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Niko Višnjić from comment #50)
> Now, if only we could clean the mess we made on the
> http://arewegrowingyet.com/ stats for Croatia. Not sure that this is in any
> way important, but I generally like to have my data straight (facts too).

Not sure if it's can be done, I'll check.

Comment 52

[Niko Višnjić]

Also,

I think I found another bug :(

The Sort by: Interest / Location / Newsletter (only on en-US ATM) switcher is malfunctioning and it always displays all the available categories instead of the nice switching behavior.

I found that the bug is persistent on:
www.mozilla.org/hr/contribute
www.mozilla.org/sr/contribute/
(Possibly on other localized contribute pages, didn't go through all of them)

While the same switcher works just fine on:
www.mozilla.org/es-ES/contribute/
www.mozilla.org/fr/contribute/
(and plenty of others)

I've also noticed that all the sites that have the switcher working also have their rotating 15 facts working above as well. Is it correlated?

I've got two more requests.
Can we get the 15 rotating facts on our contribute page as well or are we still missing something?

In addition, I really like the video that is currently up, is it possible to embed captions into it so we can make it available to non English speaking users and reuse it? We could dub it, but I'm unsure if I can find the right voice to do the dub.

Comment 53

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Niko Višnjić from comment #52)
> I've also noticed that all the sites that have the switcher working also
> have their rotating 15 facts working above as well. Is it correlated?
It could definitely be.

> Can we get the 15 rotating facts on our contribute page as well or are we
> still missing something?
Working on it. I had to be sure that the template was going to last (it was planned for a month or so), and I will hopefully solve this by the end of this week.

> In addition, I really like the video that is currently up, is it possible to
> embed captions into it so we can make it available to non English speaking
> users and reuse it? We could dub it, but I'm unsure if I can find the right
> voice to do the dub.
I'll try to find an answer to this too :-)

Comment 54

[Niko Višnjić]

Thanks, I'll stick around so ping if you have something.

Comment 55

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

I tried to resize the attached file to a size similar to the current en-US logo (215x162), but the resulting file is way to heavy (23Kb vs 4Kb). 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=746916

Lee, can you help?

Comment 56

[Lucija Zlopaša]

Attachment: mozilla 15 years - cro (smaller)

Does this help?
I sized it down.

Comment 57

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

(In reply to Lucija Zlopaša from comment #56)
> Does this help?
> I sized it down.

Yes, a lot better. Mine was way to heavy.

Comment 58

[Lucija Zlopaša]

Just a sec, I uploaded the wrong one.

Comment 59

[Lucija Zlopaša]

Attachment: mozilla 15 years - cro (smaller)

This one is 12,3 Kb, so I hope it still works.
Sorry for wrong one/right one mistake. :D

Comment 60

[David Boswell]

(In reply to Niko Višnjić from comment #52)
> The Sort by: Interest / Location / Newsletter (only on en-US ATM) switcher
> is malfunctioning and it always displays all the available categories
> instead of the nice switching behavior.

Yes, the new 15 years template and the old video template don't work well together with the switcher.  I recommend moving everyone to the 15 years template instead of trying to fix switcher on the old template (partially because of the answer to the next question).

> In addition, I really like the video that is currently up, is it possible to
> embed captions into it so we can make it available to non English speaking
> users and reuse it? We could dub it, but I'm unsure if I can find the right
> voice to do the dub.

Bug 769715 is open to add Universal Subtitles support to Bedrock so that videos can be localized.  IIRC, that wasn't something that was going to happen soon, so I think it's best to have localizations of /contribute use the 15 years template that is fully localizable today.

Near the end of the year when it's about to no longer be the 15th anniversary, we can see if it makes sense to go back to the video template or create something new.

Comment 61

[Niko Višnjić]

(In reply to David Boswell from comment #60)
> Yes, the new 15 years template and the old video template don't work well
> together with the switcher.  I recommend moving everyone to the 15 years
> template instead of trying to fix switcher on the old template (partially
> because of the answer to the next question).
Makes sense, switcher it is!

> Bug 769715 is open to add Universal Subtitles support to Bedrock so that
> videos can be localized.  IIRC, that wasn't something that was going to
> happen soon, so I think it's best to have localizations of /contribute use
> the 15 years template that is fully localizable today.
> 
> Near the end of the year when it's about to no longer be the 15th
> anniversary, we can see if it makes sense to go back to the video template
> or create something new.
What I actually had in mind was using the video with Croatian captions in other places, eg. a page on our community website.
I'll keep an eye out on that bug, hopefully we will get captions support soon. Not sure if I can help there though, my webdev skills are a bit rusty.

In any case, thanks for the answers David

Comment 62

[David Boswell]

(In reply to Niko Višnjić from comment #61)
> What I actually had in mind was using the video with Croatian captions in
> other places, eg. a page on our community website.

You can certainly use the video in other places if you'd like.  You can find the video on the Amara site that used to be the Universal Subtitles site at:

http://www.amara.org/en/videos/NNxEqfuQSaPN/info/mozilla-firefox-a-different-kind-of-browser/

Comment 63

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Template is now enabled on dev-server. 

Can you check and let me know if everything looks good?
https://www-dev.allizom.org/hr/contribute/

Comment 64

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Page is live, let's close this bug
https://www.mozilla.org/hr/contribute/

If you want to change anything (apart from the mail address used as a recipient), just commit your changes to SVN.