Remove Google as a content handler for feeds, because Reader and iGoogle are being discontinued

RESOLVED FIXED in seamonkey2.26

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defect
RESOLVED FIXED
6 years ago
6 years ago

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(Reporter: iann_bugzilla, Assigned: iann_bugzilla)

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(Blocks 1 bug, {productization})

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+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #851010 +++

This was spun off from the wontfix'd bug 840710, because Google is discontinuing both Reader and iGoogle, the two services linked from fusion.google.com, one of our content handlers for feeds.

Because Google is currently first in the default list, and we'd have to shift Yahoo! to become the first item in the .properties file, I'm not sure what a patch for this should look like. I've attached one possibility.
Attachment #8338438 - Flags: review?(bugzilla)
Attachment #8338438 - Flags: feedback?(l10n)
Keywords: productization
Comment on attachment 8338438 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove Google as a content handler for feeds

Review of attachment 8338438 [details] [diff] [review]:
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Stealing f? from Pike, change looks good.
Attachment #8338438 - Flags: feedback?(l10n) → feedback+
Likely too late to get this into FF25, but we may want to track for inclusion in FF26.
(In reply to Alex Keybl [:akeybl] from comment #4)
> Likely too late to get this into FF25, but we may want to track for
> inclusion in FF26.

This is a Seamonkey bug. The work was done for Firefox in bug 851010 for Firefox 22.
Maybe we should add one or two alternatives?
Feedly uses http://www.feedly.com/home#subscription/feed/%s
AOL Reader uses http://reader.aol.com/#quickadd/%s

%s is the URL to the RSS feed. I've tried both and both seem to work fine. Not sure what others think about those alternatives? Maybe we can also use https:// there, need to see.
> Feedly uses http://www.feedly.com/home#subscription/feed/%s
You might want to check the update interval first, I tried Feedly in Summer and at least some feeds with a few thousand subscriptions were only updated once or twice per day (e.g. for http://rss.golem.de/rss.php?feed=ATOM1.0 ).

> AOL Reader uses http://reader.aol.com/#quickadd/%s
Here the feeds update frequently.
Comment on attachment 8338438 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove Google as a content handler for feeds

I want to talk about adding AOL and Feedly at the next meeting, is this ok for you? Then we could remove and add the new services in one go.
(In reply to Frank Wein [:mcsmurf] from comment #8)
> I want to talk about adding AOL and Feedly at the next meeting, is this ok
> for you? Then we could remove and add the new services in one go.

Well the next meeting has happened. Can we expect a new patch from you to add Feedly and AOL?
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This patch removes Google and adds entries for Feedly, AOL and Digg. I'm not precious about the order or even having all of them. Not sure who has the relevant accounts to do testing of all the readers though.
Attachment #8356528 - Flags: feedback?(philip.chee)
Attachment #8356528 - Flags: feedback?(bugzilla)
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Comment on attachment 8356528 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove Google and add some new content handlers for feeds

So I tested all of these now.
My Yahoo: You can use your own Yahoo account or login with a Google or Facebook account. Works fine in general, though their my.yahoo.com page (which displays your feeds) is more like a general portal website which displays your subscribed RSS feeds inside it (kinda like the old iGoogle). This portal page also features some general news and their search engine.
Feedly: Uses Google login (no own account system on their page), UI is fine, works like it should
AOL Reader: Does what it should, login/creating account works fine, subscribing after creating a new account works (so no need to go back to RSS feed to really subscribe).
Digg Reader: Well, it works, but I think AOL Reader is better. It does not work well with the Ghostery addon (this one protects your privacy), also it looks like you need to have 3rd party cookies enabled as they only allow Twitter/Facebook/Google account login. They do not offer own Digg-only accounts, you need an account on a social network to use it. Also after the first login ever, it does not remember that you wanted to subscribe to an RSS feed.

So, I would move Feedly to the first place as it is more like a real web-based RSS reader. My Yahoo then to 2nd place as this is not a real RSS reader, but more like a web portal with an integrated RSS feed display feature. AOL can stay third, Digg has certain problems with cookies and the Ghostery addon where other web-based RSS readers worked fine with this setup.
Attachment #8356528 - Flags: feedback?(bugzilla) → feedback+
Forgot: AOL Reader also supports Twitter/Facebook/Google login if the user wants that.
Comment on attachment 8338438 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove Google as a content handler for feeds

I provided feedback for the newer/better patch, so canceling this request.
Attachment #8338438 - Flags: review?(bugzilla)
Revised order of handlers as per mcsmurf's suggestion.
Attachment #8338438 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #8356528 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #8356528 - Flags: feedback?(philip.chee)
Attachment #8362306 - Flags: feedback?(francesco.lodolo)
(In reply to Frank Wein [:mcsmurf] from comment #11)
> Comment on attachment 8356528 [details] [diff] [review]

> Digg Reader: Well, it works, but I think AOL Reader is better. It does not
> work well with the Ghostery addon (this one protects your privacy), also it
> looks like you need to have 3rd party cookies enabled as they only allow
> Twitter/Facebook/Google account login. They do not offer own Digg-only
> accounts, you need an account on a social network to use it. Also after the
> first login ever, it does not remember that you wanted to subscribe to an
> RSS feed.
> 
> So, I would move Feedly to the first place as it is more like a real
> web-based RSS reader. My Yahoo then to 2nd place as this is not a real RSS
> reader, but more like a web portal with an integrated RSS feed display
> feature. AOL can stay third, Digg has certain problems with cookies and the
> Ghostery addon where other web-based RSS readers worked fine with this setup.

I presume this is also a problem with Firefox? Is the Ghostery author aware or is it something that Digg need to fix?
Flags: needinfo?(bugzilla)
Comment on attachment 8362306 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove Google and add some new content handlers for feeds in revised order [Checked in: Comment 20]

Review of attachment 8362306 [details] [diff] [review]:
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Technically it looks good, not sure I'm the right person to give suggestions for en-US though.
Attachment #8362306 - Flags: feedback?(francesco.lodolo) → feedback+
Attachment #8362306 - Flags: review?(neil)
(In reply to Ian Neal from comment #15)
> (In reply to Frank Wein [:mcsmurf] from comment #11)
> > Comment on attachment 8356528 [details] [diff] [review]
> 
> > Digg Reader: Well, it works, but I think AOL Reader is better. It does not
> > work well with the Ghostery addon (this one protects your privacy), also it
> > looks like you need to have 3rd party cookies enabled as they only allow
> > Twitter/Facebook/Google account login. They do not offer own Digg-only
> > accounts, you need an account on a social network to use it. Also after the
> > first login ever, it does not remember that you wanted to subscribe to an
> > RSS feed.
> > 
> > So, I would move Feedly to the first place as it is more like a real
> > web-based RSS reader. My Yahoo then to 2nd place as this is not a real RSS
> > reader, but more like a web portal with an integrated RSS feed display
> > feature. AOL can stay third, Digg has certain problems with cookies and the
> > Ghostery addon where other web-based RSS readers worked fine with this setup.
> 
> I presume this is also a problem with Firefox? Is the Ghostery author aware
> or is it something that Digg need to fix?

Yes, also a problem with Firefox. With Ghostery being enabled, you either get redirected to http://digg.com/session (404 not found) or it is stuck in a login loop. But then not sure if this isn't some feature in some way as you can tell it to block all kind of website (3rd party) widgets, 3rd party cookies and so on (to protect your privacy). But when trying AOL Reader and Feedly, you can also login there without disabling blocking. Not sure what Digg Reader is doing differently, at least the login window looks the same compared to Feedly (it opens a new small window where you login@Google and then that window closes and ideally your Feedly or Digg Reader account gets displayed). So to me it looks like this is something Digg needs to fix. Probably not a high priority task for them though.
Flags: needinfo?(bugzilla)
(In reply to Frank Wein from comment #6)
> Maybe we should add one or two alternatives?
> Feedly uses http://www.feedly.com/home#subscription/feed/%s
> AOL Reader uses http://reader.aol.com/#quickadd/%s

Bah, why do they have to use anchors instead of real links?
Comment on attachment 8362306 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove Google and add some new content handlers for feeds in revised order [Checked in: Comment 20]

Couldn't really try AOL/Digg because they go straight to a sign up screen but Feedly seemed OK.
Attachment #8362306 - Flags: review?(neil) → review+
Comment on attachment 8362306 [details] [diff] [review]
Remove Google and add some new content handlers for feeds in revised order [Checked in: Comment 20]

https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/cdad0f5e26d0
Attachment #8362306 - Attachment description: Remove Google and add some new content handlers for feeds in revised order → Remove Google and add some new content handlers for feeds in revised order [Checked in: Comment 20]
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 6 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Target Milestone: --- → seamonkey2.26
Ian: Did you post to the l10n newsgroup regarding this checkin?
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Depends on: 971288
Blocks: 971288
No longer depends on: 971288
Posting made to l10n newsgroup and tracking bug and bug for each relevant locale created.
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