Global history file being cleared




History: Global
16 years ago
9 years ago


(Reporter: Joe Mucchiello, Unassigned)


(Blocks: 1 bug, {dataloss, regression})

dataloss, regression
Bug Flags:
blocking1.8a2 -

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)


(Whiteboard: TESTCASE WANTED, see bug 63292 before commenting)


(3 attachments)



16 years ago
From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801
BuildID:    2001080110

I have been using the history sidebar to keep track of locations I frequent but
am too lazy to bookmark. Today, my history was empty when I launched Mozilla. I
assume there is an error in the keep last X days code when dealing with month

Reproducible: Didn't try
Steps to Reproduce:
Sorry, don't feel like changing my system date and stopping and start Mozilla a
bunch of times.

Comment 1

16 years ago
I notice this too. Linux Build 2001093006. My history is all empty.

Comment 2

16 years ago
Same here with regular 0.9.4 (build 2001091311) on MacOS 9.2.1.

I'm not sure if it's related, but a few minutes after midnight I got problems
with the location bar. I wasn't able to load any new urls anymor, not even after
restarting. The urls were in the history list, but not in the cache (I cleared
that the previous day). Since I got stuck, I decided to clear the cache, history
and location list. Then I wasn't able to load anything, but I noticed that my
historylist wasn't cleared either.  I tried rebooting, but that didn't help. I
thought I had problems with DHCP, the proxyserver, nameserver or whatever (not
the first time they did funky things after midnight), so I waited until the morning.

In the morning, it was still the same problem, so it wasn't my ISP. I recreated
a new profile, and that seemed to have solved all the problems. Sorry, I deleted
my old profile, so I can't investigate it anymore.

I guess this is completely unrelated, but when I read these 2 reports. Is it
possible that Mozilla did somehting strange with the history ? In these 2 cases
it was cleared, in case it got stuck somehow. Weird ... Halloween must have come
early this year.

Comment 3

16 years ago
I am using build 2001092306 for linux and my history didn't disappear.
My history seemed a bit wonky on Oct 1st (set to remember for "30 days"), using
2001092603 on Win2k. Marking NEW for investigation. 
Ever confirmed: true

Comment 5

16 years ago
Actually, this problem may be caused by something else. If the system hangs for
any reason (either caused or not caused by Mozilla) and I have to reset the
computer, if Mozilla was running, the history file is gone the next time it's
launched. I'm not sure it this is a known bug or not but the cause is probably
not Oct 1 since I've lost the history file twice since then. It is improper
shutdown of mozilla clears the history file.


16 years ago
Target Milestone: --- → Future

Comment 6

16 years ago
I just lost my history file, but I wasn't near any interesting time boundaries;
middle of day, etc.  I'm unaware of anything unusual I did.  For the bitten
among us, I'm going to attach a piece of my 'mozilla' script; this piece makes
backups of the history file, and restores it when it gets lost.  Not a
solution of course, but a stopgap to avoid that "lobotomized" feeling.

Comment 7

16 years ago
Created attachment 55528 [details]
/bin/bash script fragment to jealously guard history data

Comment 8

16 years ago
Created attachment 55529 [details]
of course I forgot to test it (sorry); fixed a typo in previous attach

Comment 9

16 years ago
I saw this today too. My history got cleared (and its not even Nov 1st!).
Windows 2000 SP 2 Build ID: 2001110209

Changing summary from 
"Launch on Oct. 1 cleared my global history file"
"Global History File being cleared"
Since this is also happening lately... not only on Oct 1

Adding dataloss, regression keywords
Keywords: dataloss, regression


16 years ago
OS: Windows ME → All
Summary: Launch on Oct. 1 cleared my global history file → Global history file being cleared

Comment 11

16 years ago
Happened again, this time after a crash of 0.9.5.  I was doing something
a little funky with the X server (lbxproxy) at the time.  The script I attached
earlier caught the problem, but it exposed a bug in the script too, which I
will presently remedy (does anyone care?).

Comment 12

16 years ago
Created attachment 58671 [details]
another bugfix to history-guard script

I seem to be too stupid to make the "Edit" interface in bugzilla's
attachment thing work right..

Comment 13

16 years ago
Oops, sorry for yet another spam.  My history did *not* get cleared this time,
I misdiagnosed the situation.

Comment 14

16 years ago
I now have a history file which will *always* be cleared if it's the history.dat
when Mozilla starts up.  I've verified that both 0.9.5 and 0.9.6 clear it.  I
think it must have an entry somewhere which causes the parser to choke, but I
don't see anything obviously malformed about the file.  

I would like to send this history file to someone who can diagnose 
(1) what is in this file which causes Mozilla to ignore it and 
(2) how that got in there in the first place.  However, I don't want to post
it as an attachment for privacy reasons (it's my browsing history, after all).
Someone (Blake?) please let me know where I can send it.

Comment 15

16 years ago
Scott McPeak, please attach your history file to this bug.


16 years ago
Blocks: 123929

Comment 16

16 years ago
Andrew, sorry -- I deleted the file a week ago because it seemed like no
one cared.  Also, I didn't want to simply attach it for privacy reasons
(more a matter of principle than anything else).

For what it's worth, the history-clearing thing hasn't bitten me since I
switched to 0.9.8.

Comment 17

16 years ago
Bummer, sorry. 

Are there any objections to resolving this bug as worksforme? It doesn't seem 
to be a problem anymore.

Comment 18

16 years ago
*** Bug 125360 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 19

16 years ago
Objection! ;-) Bug 125360 had someone reported they were still getting this bug
very recently.
As I noted there, I haven't seen this on W2K despite having a fairly unstable
system and getting crashes quite often - I suspect this is because NTFS is more
resilient that FAT.

Comment 20

16 years ago
This bug has plagued me ever since 0.9.6. I'm using 0.9.9 now (1.0RCx is a not
an option for me because of the broken copy link location) and it's in there. If
no one has fixed it, it's probably still in 1.0. Do not close this bug!
Unfortunately I can't see a pattern. It happens every 1 or 2 days. I'm using
Linux now but I had the bug on Windows, too.

Comment 21

16 years ago
I've done several hours of testing and I think I have some useful info on this bug:

1. I can cause it to occur with the following script about every 2nd time:
mozilla &
mozilla &

The bug seems to be caused by 2 (or more) Mozillas starting up at the same time.

2. I have straced Mozilla and in the vicinity of history.dat accesses I don't
see anything that looks like locking.

To me it looks like both Mozillas are writing history.dat at the same time
without any kind of locking which results in a broken history.dat that Mozilla
unlinks on the next startup (I can provide such a broken history.dat if desired).

An interesting side note: I was not able to provoke the bug by killing 2
Mozillas at the same time. Of course that doesn't mean that writing history.dat
at program termination (which I assume is done) is safe, it might just mean the
race condition is less likely in this case.

I really hope it's just a case of missing file locking on history.dat. That
should be easy to fix. I'm really looking forward to a Mozilla without this
annoying bug.

BTW, my machine is a K6/2-500. On faster machines the bug may be less likely to
occur, so using a slower machine might be beneficial to reproducing this bug.

Comment 22

16 years ago
The fix for bug 76431, just in, prevents multiple Mozillas from accessing the
same profile. Resolving as duplicate. If this is not a duplicate, reopen.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 76431 ***
Last Resolved: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE

Comment 23

15 years ago
While bug 76431 solves one case of this bug, it does not solve another. On June 
2 my history file became clearer. Windows locked up tight while I was browsing 
requiring a hard reset. I just noticed on the 3rd that I had no history dating 
before the reboot. I would love to know how the history file becomes so currupt 
that it is completely lost. I was using RC2 at the time.
Resolution: DUPLICATE → ---

Comment 24

15 years ago
By the definitions on <> and
<>, crashing and dataloss
bugs are of critical or possibly higher severity.  Only changing open bugs to
minimize unnecessary spam.  Keywords to trigger this would be crash, topcrash,
topcrash+, zt4newcrash, dataloss.
Severity: normal → critical
*** Bug 209864 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Shouldn't this bug be a blocker for 0.9?? It is a critical, very annoying bug. A
lot of people would not use Ffox because of this bug. Who wants to lose his
history every 2-3 weeks?


13 years ago
Flags: blocking1.8a2?

Comment 27

13 years ago
This bug shouldn't be a blocker for anything. IMHO, the bug should be closed as
INVALID because:
- there is no recent description of how this happens
- it doesn't have reliable test case
- it is done BY DESIGN to wipe out history and cache when browser shuts down
abnormally, e.g. when crash or hard reset occurs

Comment 28

13 years ago
(In reply to comment #27)
> - it is done BY DESIGN to wipe out history and cache when browser shuts down
> abnormally, e.g. when crash or hard reset occurs
That's a bad design and should be fixed ASAP (though history is not necessarily
whiped out on a crash). Though I agree, a better steps-to-reproduce are needed.
I totally agree with Nickolay Ponomarev (comment #28). It should be fixed ASAP.
The problem is not only with history, but also with the visited urls in the drop
down list and visited links different color.

Comment 30

13 years ago
It is "good design", given current cache implementation and the fact that crash
took place. When crash occurs, states of cache, history, etc. are indetermined.
So, instead of causing further application instability, all items in question
are cleared. Therefore, no "drop down list and visited links different color"
are preserved.

Actual solution is to fix issue(s) that caused crash in the first place. As it
stands now, I still think that this bug is INVALID. (See comment #27 too)

Comment 31

13 years ago
To Haris & others: 
guys, please refrain from statements such as "this should be fixed asap", it's
bad etiquette (we can discuss it in Mozillazine forums if you want). If you want
to contribute to this bug, please find a reproducible testcase or submit a
patch. As for the history being deleted after a crash, this is bug 63292.
To Walter:
I see my History being cleared from time to time, without crash happening
between (currently using new profile and latest Firefox branch build, which I
assume it shares common History backend code with Mozilla Suite). Today, I saw
it twice, when I entered a "Vote for this bug" page. My instant thought was
"phew, I found a reproducible testcase" but, alas, I proved wrong. Anyway, this
bug seems to be real.
Whiteboard: TESTCASE WANTED, see bug 63292 before commenting

Comment 32

13 years ago
*** Bug 242207 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***


13 years ago
Flags: blocking1.8a2? → blocking1.8a2-

Comment 33

13 years ago
Using 20010801 on Windows 20004 SP4 and I've got this bug too, if it ever was a

Except with mine, the history will randomly clear itself for no reason. The
browser doesn't crash or anything. It'll just be there on one page and gone the

Comment 34

13 years ago
(In reply to comment #33)

> Except with mine, the history will randomly clear itself for no reason. The
> browser doesn't crash or anything. It'll just be there on one page and gone the
> next.

Same problem here with Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3)
Gecko/20041001 Firefox/0.10.1 although it happened with earlier version too -
usually a few times a week...

Comment 35

13 years ago
Agreed. This happens at least once a week for me. No crashing involved... I just
close Firefox... open it up again... and boom, no dropdown history. It is
extremely annoying I must admit. If there was an extension that would at least
back up the history.dat file, that would be very helpful until this bug can be
tracked down.

Comment 36

13 years ago
Tim: Pike's Bookmarks Backup does it

Comment 37

13 years ago
*** Bug 227257 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 38

13 years ago
*** Bug 281144 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 39

12 years ago
It still happens to me.

A few days sooner the history was gone for me without any interaction. It
happened on Firefox 1.5 Beta 1.
Assignee: firefox → nobody
QA Contact: claudius →
Here is a testcase, where the history file is being cleared and it is reproducable. It was posted by William B. Lurie on the NG:

He uses Norton System Networks 2006 and reports:

>> BANZAI!!!! I repeated this last test very carefully, and found that
>> BEFORE I ran One Button Checkup, my drop-down list had eight
>> items in it. AFTER I ran One Button Checkup, they were *GONE*!!!!

> And now to drop the other shoe, as it were, I have tested further
> and have narrowed down which sections of One Button Checkup in
> Norton System Works 2006 cause the drop-down list to disappear.

> Either of these two segments will cause it to disappear:
> Registry Scan, and Norton Cleanup. 

So either the Registry scan or Norton cleanup causes the history file of Firefox to longer be available to Firefox (at least in this case). This should be reproducible by others. It looks more like Norton System Works is the culprit than Firefox.
(In reply to comment #40)
Correct url to the NG posting:
(In reply to comment #40)

Further information from William and another poster suggests that there is a setting to have NSW remove browser history. So this may be a false alarm.

However many people may be unaware of such features in privacy protection products that they run and complain about the loss of history and cookies and such in Firefox. So please check for such software when you experience such problems.

Comment 43

9 years ago
I have FF 3.0 and although auto-complete shows that my history still exists organize history and history side-bar are always empty except for showing entries accumulated through that windows personal history.
This is WORKSFORME in Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081210 Shiretoko/3.1b3pre

Comment 45

9 years ago
The issue reported was resolved at the latest in bug 374945 (implementation of Places). 

Based on that, and on comment 44, resolving WFM.

If you have a testcase for this bug report that applies to current trunk builds, please post the testcase, and re-open.
Last Resolved: 16 years ago9 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
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