103608 - Tip of the Day feature

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(SeaMonkey :: UI Design, enhancement)

Description

[Peter Trudelle]

This is a tracking bug for planning and implementation of new feature work for
Netscape's MachV project. All plan/spec/design documents should be posted on
mozilla.org and discussed in the appropriate newsgroup(s), not here.  New
dependency bugs will be created for any subtasks. Please use this bug only for
discussing the plan itself, or to add links to any pertinent discussion elsewhere.

Proposed requirements:
    *  Implement Tip of the Day that explains to users various functionality in
the product at start-up.
    * Need to be able to turn off this feature from the Tip of the Day dialog.

Current engineering plan:
For dialog similar to other products:
components: dialog - 3 days, tip database - 2 days

This is valuable, but not high priority (P3?).  Not just for newbies, see
Gnome/KDE. Could just open up Tip tab in Sidebar. 1 day?
Need  content for tip database.
Currently assigned to [e-mail] for planning/design.  
Implementation estimate:  1-5 days

Comment 1

[Peter Trudelle]

p3/097, blocks 102472

Comment 2

[David Hyatt]

In the spirit of making this bug less annoying to implement, I propose that we 
come up with possible tips that could be used in Mozilla.

From bbaetz: "Rheeeet!"

From me: "Never run with scissors."

Any others?

Comment 3

[Steve Dagley]

Never trust a politician whose lips are moving

Comment 4

[Mark Slater]

M!ck3y50f7 sux0rz

Comment 5

[Peter Trudelle]

Please discuss this elsewhere.

Comment 6

[Bill Law]

r=law for the planning info (*not* the suggested tips :-).

I think we need some more detail to understand how this dialog actually works 
and what the tip database is.  I wonder if there's not some simpler scheme 
where we just open a new browser window (sans chrome, maybe?) to some server-
provided tip content (in html format).  The only other thing that is absolutely 
necessary is some additional widgetry to make it easy for the user to turn it 
off.

Comment 7

[Alex Bishop]

Having tips on a server would be a good idea because the database could be
updated - no more reading the same tips again and again. However, some users
will start up  the product when they're offline, so it would be good to ship the
product with some tips built in and/or download tips when online that can be
shown when the user starts in offline mode.

Comment 8

[Håkan Waara]

"Tip of the Day" implementations are the hallmark of bloated software, imho.
Seldom am I opposed to implementing new stuff, but please don't implement this
in Mozilla.

Comment 9

[David Hallowell]

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 19463 ***

Comment 10

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Bill Law,
> r=law for the planning info

Which planning info?


VERIFY DUP.


> Please discuss this elsewhere.

I respect your wish, but you have to point us to a concrete place to discuss
this then, so that we all use the same one.

Until then, please forgive me when I reply to some comments here.

> "Tip of the Day" implementations are the hallmark of bloated software

Are you suggesting that Mozilla is *not* bloated?

> Having tips on a server would be a good idea

No. It is a privacy problem, and a reliability one (the server might go away,
temporarily or permanently). (Same applies to online docs and so forth.)

Not to mention that it will be slow.

Comment 11

[Peter Trudelle]

Reopening.  This is a TRACKING bug for work assigned to my team. As such, it
cannot possibly be a duplicate of any other bug. Leave it alone.  Discuss your
feelings about it anywhere you want, with n.p.m.browser and n.p.m.ui being
reasonable forums, but not here.

Comment 12

[David Hallowell]

*** Bug 19463 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 13

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

I thought we all used the same bug tracking. But if you insist...

Comment 14

[Joe Hewitt (gone)]

Is there any progress on this? Frankly, I'm having difficulty understanding this
whole web browsing thing, and I'm hoping that Tip of the Day might help to clue
me in. Chop Chop!

Comment 15

[Ben Goodger (use ben at mozilla dot org for email)]

Cut. 

Comment 16

[Jaime Rodriguez, Jr.]

This targetted for FUTURE. Should we remove it from blocking Bug 102472, since its
current target is outside the dev window for the next release?

Comment 17

[Peter Trudelle]

sure, removing.

Comment 18

[Daniel Wang]

actually, if this is a meta, then it should depend on 19463 rather
than block 19463

Comment 19

[Worcester12345]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298026

Comment 20

[Worcester12345]

Created Bugzilla Bug 308226 Add Tip of the Day for Firefox before 1.5 for Firefox.

Comment 21

[RickieES aka Ricardo Palomares]

Is not this bug duped with bug 19463?

Comment 22

[Frank-Rainer Grahl (:frg)]

Tip of the day: How to turn off tips of the day