m.d.general.italian might work as a name; the issue is that if m.d.general stops being a leaf node, people may not realise it's a group in its own right. I don't know. Another alternative is mozilla.languages.italian . Mike: what do you think? My original summary of the options is here: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/564d9ea7c2a36e80/c02d22d2cc99dfcd Gerv
Someone else is going to have to decide on the final name - I'm not around for the next month. Do something sensible, OK? :-) Gerv
If you omit the .general, and later expand, you end up with non-leaf groups. I think maybe mozilla.languages.italian.general is best. Gerv
Right, good idea. :-) Maybe we can shorten the name in mozilla.languages.it.general but at this point we need another newsgroup to discuss from a developer point of view. I propose mozilla.languages.it.dev.general
Yes; if there is a mozilla.languages, then "it" can't be confused with Information Technology. And so it makes sense to be consistent with the l10n newsgroups and use the abbreviations. mozilla.languages.it.general. Let's just have one newsgroup for now, and split if the traffic becomes too large. That's the approach we've been using elsewhere. Gerv
Dave: please can you ask Giganews to create mozilla.languages.it.general? Gerv
OK, is Fabio going to moderate it? Now that we're doing ones and twosies I want to get moderators on them as they get set up. (moderators just have to approve legitimate posts from people who get their posts held by the spam filters periodically)
(In reply to comment #9) > OK, is Fabio going to moderate it? Now that we're doing ones and twosies I > want to get moderators on them as they get set up. > > (moderators just have to approve legitimate posts from people who get their > posts held by the spam filters periodically) Yes, for me it's ok, I can moderate the group.
mailing list has been created, admin password mailed to Fabio. The list is currently hidden. It will be unhidden as soon as the corresponding newsgroup is created. Newgroup request has been submitted to Giganews. Based on previous experience, it may be a couple weeks before it shows up on Google Groups.
Hadn't heard anything back from Giganews saying they'd done it, but it showed up in my newsreader just now. :) I've unhidden the list. Still waiting to hear from Google, of course.
w00t, Google's on the ball, Google Groups mirror is all set. This is now completed.
Hang on, don't start using this yet. Wiser minds than mine may wish to revert the hierarchy decision and put it somewhere else. Sorry for the delay. Normal service will be resumed shortly. Gerv
Really sorry, but we've reversed the hierarchy decision over in bug 339729 :-(( Can we destroy this group and mailing list, and instead create mozilla.dev.general.it? Sorry again... I promise no more turmoil after this. Best to get these things right at the beginning. (BTW, this bug's web page is always failing to load totally for me in the latest Firefox. Is anyone else seeing that?) Gerv
> (BTW, this bug's web page is always failing to load totally for me in the > latest Firefox. Is anyone else seeing that?) It's a Firefox bug; I downgraded and it now works. Gerv
(In reply to comment #14) > Hang on, don't start using this yet. Wiser minds than mine may wish to revert > the hierarchy decision and put it somewhere else. > > Sorry for the delay. Normal service will be resumed shortly. Ok, I don't use the newsgroup, I wait for mozilla.dev.general.it
Mailing list has been created and admin/moderator password mailed to Fabio. It will remain hidden until the newsgroup has been created to go with it. Newgroup and rmgroup requests have been submitted to Giganews and Google. The old mailing list will go away after the old newsgroup does.
Ok, I received the password. I would like to better understand what is my role in administering the newsgroup/mailing list. I know mailman, but I don't know how the options that I can set for the mailing list will affect the newsgroup. I would like to know if there are some general guidelines for things like the General Description (should be in English or Italian?) or the policy for spammers etc.
Description can be in Italian if you'd like (the list interface is set to Italian as the default language, so might as well go with it ;) Basically, all you should need to worry about is the moderation queue and setting up a description. The new newsgroup is live on both Giganews and Google. mozilla.languages.it.general has been nuked off Giganews, but is still present on Google. I've opened visibility on the mailing list, moved the subscription (singular) over from the old one, and deleted the old list. There have been no posts to the old list, so Google should be removing it rather than locking it, I think, but neither has happened yet, so I'll leave this open until I confirm it's gone or locked.
(In reply to comment #20) > There have been no posts to the old list, so Google should be removing it > rather than locking it, I think, but neither has happened yet, so I'll leave > this open until I confirm it's gone or locked. This is still present (and open) on Google. I sent them a reminder along with the request for bug 328381.
Google has now deleted this group.