408880 - [ru] Search Feature Tracking for Firefox 3

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: ru / Russian, defect)

Description

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Per irc discussion with Mic last week, I'd like to ask for approval for the changes of search plugins to be shipped by Firefox in Russian.

1) Remove yahoo.ru and replace it with rambler.ru

Yahoo market share in Russia is very insignificant and that search engine is virtually unknown (see http://gs.spylog.ru/r/?reportId=7&categoryId=1 for some stats). I haven't met any person in Russia using Yahoo as search engine.
Rambler is the third most popular search engine in Russia and is one of the pioneering Russian search engines that is still around, and it definitely needs to be included. Another reason that the semantics of the Russian language is very different to that of English, and Yandex and Rambler can properly account for morphology (declensional endings, tense, gender etc), which Russian language is famous for. Bug 348096 comment #35 gives some arguments for Rambler's inclusion.
Also I'd like to note, that people, that use Rambler, belong to different user group, than Yandex's users.

2) Replace lingvo.yandex.ru with slovari.yandex.ru

slovari.yandex.ru is more powerful then lingvo.yandex.ru (besides online translator it also has thesaurus)

3) Remove filesearch.ru

filesearch.ru is ftp indexing service. I think it makes little sense to keep ftp indexing service nowadays.

4) Add market.yandex.ru

Market.Yandex.ru has more wide variety of goods than Price.ru. Search on Price.ru has some flaws. You'll get only links to some proposals without description, price or photo of goods, and need to click to get description and price. On Market.Yandex.ru you will get detail specification of goods with photos and price right from search box. Also on Market.Yandex.ru you can read opinions of other people regarding this good. There are much more banners on Price.ru, than on Market.Yandex.ru.
On other side on price.ru it's possible to sort out stores by subway stations and locations. I guess it's important to provide users with choice, so I propose to include both market.yandex.ru and price.ru

Comment 1

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Patch v1

Besides changes, mentioned in comment #0, this patch also updates Yandex search plugin to last version (it was taken from Yandex front page)

Comment 2

[Mic Berman]

in addition to opening of bug
on rambler: the demographic is apparently older. so this should qualify as a good local search provider, with a user experience that is geared towards a different demographic

Comment 3

[Mic Berman]

for addition of market.yandex.ru
we discussed whether this would flavour the browser with too much yandex and therefore not enough user choice. adding beltzner for ui/ue review on user choice with respect to this addition.
market.yandex could be available as a plug in for users to download themselves and we flagged this to wil clouser's attention with respect to general bugs he is tracking on this topic of localized AMO environment

Comment 4

[Mic Berman]

market.yandex.ru
reviewed with beltzner - not approved due to lack of user choice in total search plug in list 
mic, suggests looking for a different commerce provider so as to provide more user choice. 

Comment 5

[Mic Berman]

clarification on comment #4 - should read, mic, ok with alexander's suggestion (in IRC) to find a different provider ...

Comment 6

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Patch v2

Without market.yandex.ru

Comment 7

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 294487 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch v2

>Index: filesearchru.xml

'k

>Index: lingvo.yandex.ru.xml

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>Index: list.txt

'k

>Index: rambler.xml
>===================================================================
>RCS file: rambler.xml
>diff -N rambler.xml
>--- /dev/null	1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000
>+++ rambler.xml	23 Dec 2007 22:54:54 -0000
>@@ -0,0 +1,8 @@
>+<SearchPlugin xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/2006/browser/search/" xmlns:os="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/">
>+<os:ShortName>Rambler</os:ShortName>
>+<os:Description>Поиск на Рамблере</os:Description>
>+<os:InputEncoding>UTF-8</os:InputEncoding>
>+<os:Image width="16" height="16">data:image/x-icon;base64,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</os:Image>
>+<os:Url type="text/html" method="GET" template="http://www.rambler.ru/srch?utf8=1&amp;words={searchTerms}">
>+</os:Url>
>+</SearchPlugin>
>\ No newline at end of file

No need for opensearch here, please just use the MozSearch markup. We should use Param's, too. Something like

<Url type="text/html" method="GET" template="http://www.rambler.ru/srch">
  <Param name="utf8" value="1"/>
  <Param name="words" value="{searchTerms}"/>
</Url>

should work.

Can you provide some test URLs for the input encoding? The site is in windows-1251, not sure if the utf8=1 will actually fix that.

Please add a <SearchForm>, too. And a trailing newline.

>Index: yahoo-ru.xml

'k

>Index: yandex-slovari.xml
>===================================================================
>RCS file: yandex-slovari.xml
>diff -N yandex-slovari.xml
>--- /dev/null	1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0000
>+++ yandex-slovari.xml	23 Dec 2007 22:54:54 -0000
>@@ -0,0 +1,8 @@
>+<SearchPlugin xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/2006/browser/search/" xmlns:os="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/">
>+<os:ShortName>Яндекс.Словари</os:ShortName>
>+<os:Description>Поиск словарных статей и определений: БСЭ, Даль, Брокгауз и более 20 других словарей. Перевод на 5 языков.</os:Description>
>+<os:InputEncoding>UTF-8</os:InputEncoding>
>+<os:Image width="16" height="16">data:image/x-icon;base64,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</os:Image>
>+<os:Url type="text/html" method="GET" template="http://slovari.yandex.ru/search.xml?text={searchTerms}&amp;from=os">
>+</os:Url>
>+</SearchPlugin>
>\ No newline at end of file

Similar comments as above, the input encoding seems to be OK, though.

>Index: yandex.xml
>===================================================================
>RCS file: /l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/yandex.xml,v
>retrieving revision 1.2
>diff -u -8 -p -r1.2 yandex.xml
>--- yandex.xml	3 Jun 2006 19:51:27 -0000	1.2
>+++ yandex.xml	23 Dec 2007 22:54:55 -0000
>@@ -1,9 +1,8 @@
>-<SearchPlugin xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/2006/browser/search/">
>-<ShortName>Yandex</ShortName>
>-<Description>Yandex Search</Description>
>-<InputEncoding>windows-1251</InputEncoding>
>-<Image width="16" height="16">data:image/x-icon;base64,R0lGODlhEAAQAIAAAP8BAcDAwCH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAQABAAAAImjA+pcB1poGtSzshevhpz333Vxi3kZX6hhWbsNKqx6J7ODI/KUQAAOw==</Image>
>-<Url type="text/html" method="GET" template="http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text={searchTerms}">
>-</Url>
>-<SearchForm>http://www.yandex.ru/</SearchForm>
>+<SearchPlugin xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/2006/browser/search/" xmlns:os="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/">
>+<os:ShortName>Яндекс</os:ShortName>
>+<os:Description>Воспользуйтесь Яндексом для поиска в Интернете.</os:Description>
>+<os:InputEncoding>UTF-8</os:InputEncoding>
>+<os:Image width="16" height="16">data:image/x-icon;base64,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</os:Image>
>+<os:Url type="text/html" method="GET" template="http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text={searchTerms}&amp;from=os">
>+</os:Url>
> </SearchPlugin>
>\ No newline at end of file

Not sure why we want these changes to the existing plugin.

Comment 8

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Patch v3 (also updates wikipedia search plugin)

(In reply to comment #7)
> (From update of attachment 294487 [details] [diff] [review])
 
> No need for opensearch here, please just use the MozSearch markup. We should
> use Param's, too. Something like
> 
> <Url type="text/html" method="GET" template="http://www.rambler.ru/srch">
>   <Param name="utf8" value="1"/>
>   <Param name="words" value="{searchTerms}"/>
> </Url>
> 
> should work.
Done.

> Can you provide some test URLs for the input encoding? The site is in
> windows-1251, not sure if the utf8=1 will actually fix that.
> 
I've took this searchplugin from rambler's site, URL is http://www.rambler.ru/osd.xml 
Test urls can be for example:
http://www.rambler.ru/srch?utf8=1&words=кремль
http://www.rambler.ru/srch?utf8=1&words=германия
http://www.rambler.ru/srch?utf8=1&words=джордж+буш

> Please add a <SearchForm>, too. And a trailing newline.
Done everywhere. 

> 
> Not sure why we want these changes to the existing plugin.
> 
I've noticed that Yandex have added opensearch plugin on it's search page ( http://yandex.ru/opensearch.xml )
and thought that I should probably fix existing mozilla's plugin (update icon, description and search parameters)

Also I've updated wikipedia searchplugin (with http://mxr.mozilla.org/l10n/source/lv/browser/searchplugins/wikipedia-en.xml as example)

Comment 9

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Can we get a confirmation from yandex that "from=os" actually switches the input encoding from windows-1251 to utf-8, both for their regular search and for slovari? I just want to make sure that they understand and appreciate us using that flag for that purpose.

There's a nit on all plugins, "trailing newline" does not mean a trailing empty line, but a trailing '\n'. The patch chunks should just end in

+</SearchPlugin>

with no warning from cvs. In the previous patch you had no \n after </SearchPlugin>, now you'd have two. One is the right number ;-)

Comment 10

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Patch v4

(In reply to comment #9)
> Can we get a confirmation from yandex that "from=os" actually switches the
> input encoding from windows-1251 to utf-8, both for their regular search and
> for slovari? I just want to make sure that they understand and appreciate us
> using that flag for that purpose.
>
Mic, can you please get confirmation from Yandex, please?
P.S. There are holidays in Russia till Jan.8, so answer can take some time.

> There's a nit on all plugins, "trailing newline" does not mean a trailing empty
> line, but a trailing '\n'. The patch chunks should just end in
> 
> +</SearchPlugin>
> 
> with no warning from cvs. In the previous patch you had no \n after
> </SearchPlugin>, now you'd have two. One is the right number ;-)
> 
Fixed.

Comment 11

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

(In reply to comment #9)
> Can we get a confirmation from yandex that "from=os" actually switches the
> input encoding from windows-1251 to utf-8, both for their regular search and
> for slovari? I just want to make sure that they understand and appreciate us
> using that flag for that purpose.
> 
Hm, hold on. There is parameter:
<InputEncoding>UTF-8</InputEncoding>
in yandex.xml and yandex-slovari.xml
So, what's the problem? 

Comment 12

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

The problem is that they should know that we intend to use that flag for this purpose. The lifecycle management of their plugin is different to ours, so I want to be sure that they don't intend to do changes, or want us to use a different flag for reporting or somesuch.

Comment 13

[Mic Berman]

waiting on resolution of comment 11 and 12 before i contact yandex. will do once you guys let me know how i should proceed

Comment 14

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

I want to be clear with yandex on the params, really. In particular after what happened with huuto, it's better to make sure that they know what we're doing and why.

Comment 15

[Mic Berman]

regarding: 2) Replace lingvo.yandex.ru with slovari.yandex.ru
permission received from Roman Ivanov, Head of communcation services department, Yandex for Yandex Slovari service via email today

Comment 16

[Mic Berman]

regarding comment 12, here is what Yandex has said (effectively not approving from=os:

No, from=os used only for statistical reasons. It is not affect input
encoding. Our search services (both slovari & main web search) accepts
UTF-8 & Windows-1251 encodings as well.

Also could you be so kind to add Suggest feature to main web search plugin?
It looks like that:
<Url type="application/x-suggestions+json" method="GET"
template="http://suggest.yandex.net/suggest-ff.cgi?part={searchTerms}"/>

Comment 17

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Looking at more comments from yandex, we should add a

<Param name="from" value="fx3"/>

for both plugins instead of "os".

Comment 18

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 295229 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch v4

Noting the actual r- on this attachment based on previous comments.

Comment 19

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Patch v5

Add <Param name="from" value="fx3"/> for both plugins instead of "os" per comment #17.

Comment 20

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Also I've added search suggestion in yandex.ru search plugin per comment #16.  

Comment 21

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 296187 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch v5

r=me for check-in on trunk.

Thanks for your patience and perseverance.

Comment 22

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment 296187 [details] [diff] has been checked-in on trunk:
Removing filesearchru.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/filesearchru.xml,v  <--  filesearchru.xml
new revision: delete; previous revision: 1.2
done
Removing lingvo.yandex.ru.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/lingvo.yandex.ru.xml,v  <--  lingvo.yandex.ru.xml
new revision: delete; previous revision: 1.2
done
Checking in list.txt;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/list.txt,v  <--  list.txt
new revision: 1.8; previous revision: 1.7
done
RCS file: /l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/rambler.xml,v
done
Checking in rambler.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/rambler.xml,v  <--  rambler.xml
initial revision: 1.1
done
Checking in wikipedia-ru.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/wikipedia-ru.xml,v  <--  wikipedia-ru.xml
new revision: 1.3; previous revision: 1.2
done
Removing yahoo-ru.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/yahoo-ru.xml,v  <--  yahoo-ru.xml
new revision: delete; previous revision: 1.3
done
RCS file: /l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/yandex-slovari.xml,v
done
Checking in yandex-slovari.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/yandex-slovari.xml,v  <--  yandex-slovari.xml
initial revision: 1.1
done
Checking in yandex.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/yandex.xml,v  <--  yandex.xml
new revision: 1.3; previous revision: 1.2
done

I'm leaving bug open per comment #4 and #5. Probably we can find different commerce provider to provide more user choice. 

Comment 23

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Fix browser.search.order.2 in region.properties

For Yandex search plugin I've changed <ShortName> from "Yandex" to "Яндекс", but forgot to make same change in region.properties. As result Yandex is not 2nd in list of search plugins anymore.
That patch fixes this issue.

Comment 24

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 296427 [details] [diff] [review]
Fix browser.search.order.2 in region.properties 

r=me.

Comment 25

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment 296427 [details] [diff] has been checked-in on trunk:
Checking in chrome/browser-region/region.properties;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/chrome/browser-region/region.properties,v  <--  region.properties
new revision: 1.20; previous revision: 1.19
done

Comment 26

[Mic Berman]

rambler: recieved permission from [e-mail] on Dec 24

Hi Michal

> We can use the search plugin from your search page - it's
> http://www.rambler.ru/osd.xml .

Sure.
As webmail handler you can use this link:
http://mail.rambler.ru/mail/mail.cgi?mode=compose;mailto=

Thank you in advance. And, of course, happy new year.
--
Best regards,
Mikhail Chekanov

Comment 27

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Update Price.ru search engine

I've got information that official search plugin for Price.ru is http://price.ru/opensearch-description.xml This patch updates existing search plugin for price.ru in Firefox.
I've replaced parameter "from=oss" with "from=fx3" and sent letter asking for permission to change this parameter.
Once we've got response, I'll ask for review.

Comment 28

[Mic Berman]

Alexander - clarification on above comment 27. please either send me the permission you get from price.ru OR post their permission directly into this bug (with contact information).
thanks

Comment 29

[Mic Berman]

received permission from price.ru and request for parameter change:

----- Original Message -----
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Cc: "m chekanov" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 6:59:31 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Price.ru opensearch

Good day, Michal Berman.

Can you change parameter "from=oss" to "from=fx3" in search plugin for
price.ru?

official opensearch description:
http://price.ru/opensearch-description.xml

With respect,
Alexander V. Zheleschikov.
Price Express

Comment 30

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 301536 [details] [diff] [review]
Update Price.ru search engine

Gavin, on this one I actually need your help. I'm not sure that we know what to do with {startPage}, and how we react on that.

Comment 31

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

We don't support the page/index-based OpenSearch params, see http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/browser/components/search/nsSearchService.js&rev=1.108#163 . In the startPage case we'll just always send "1" as the value, so you might as well just hardcode it if it's really needed. If it isn't I would just omit it.

Comment 32

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Mic, can you verify with price.ru that it's fine to drop the startPage as we don't support it?

Comment 33

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

Comment on attachment 301536 [details] [diff] [review]
Update Price.ru search engine

Note that the intent of the parameter is to allow clients to request a specific "page" of results - since we're just loading the page in the browser rather than exposing the results in our own search UI, we always want page 1. It's pretty unlikely that their site would depend on it, but even if it does hardcoding a "1" value should be fine.

r- for that, I guess - either remove it or hardcode "1".

Comment 34

[Mic Berman]

will check in with price.ru on comment 32

for rambler, I have a new request:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chekanov Michael" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 3:48:39 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York

Hi, Michal.

Can you add parameter "rt=pp_fx3" to request string in Rambler.ru search plugin?

Thanks in advance.
--
Best regards,
Mikhail Chekanov
Head of product marketing, Rambler Media Group

Comment 35

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Аdd "rt=pp_fx3" to request string in Rambler.ru search plugin

Аdd "rt=pp_fx3" to request string in Rambler.ru search plugin per comment #34

Comment 36

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment 302285 [details] [diff] has been checked-in on trunk:
Checking in rambler.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/rambler.xml,v  <--  rambler.xml
new revision: 1.2; previous revision: 1.1
done

Comment 37

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Update Price.ru search engine v.2

Update Price.ru search engine with {startPage} dropped. Permission letter follows:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:46:48 +0300
From: Chekanov Michael 
To: Michal Berman
Cc: Alexander L. Slovesnik
Subject: Re: Price.ru opensearch

Hi.

Michal, sorry for the delay. 
Sure, it's OK for Price.ru & Rambler both.
--
Best regards,
Mikhail Chekanov
Head of product marketing, Rambler Media Group

> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michal Berman" 
> > To: "Chekanov Michael" 
> > Cc: "Alexander L. Slovesnik" 
> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:39:46 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> > Subject: Re: Price.ru opensearch
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > Can you verify following your recent request for search parameters,
> > that you'd be ok without the start page as we no longer support it
> > 
> > Please advise asap. If you have any questions, ping Alexander or Gavin
> > Sharp (listed in the bug)
> > 
> > thanks
> > mic

Comment 38

[Mic Berman]

thanks Alexander for posting that. 

Comment 39

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

Comment on attachment 303781 [details] [diff] [review]
Update Price.ru search engine v.2  

Looks good, thanks!

Comment 40

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment 303781 [details] [diff] has been checked-in on trunk:
Checking in searchplugins/priceru.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/priceru.xml,v  <--  priceru.xml
new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4

Comment 41

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Mic, Gavin, anything left to do here? I guess that we at least need to update l10n-src-verification's reference for attachment 303781 [details] [diff] [review]? What more?

Comment 42

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

I've updated l10n-src-verification to include attachment 303781 [details] [diff] [review].

Comment 43

[Mic Berman]

don't think i have anything more left to do :)

Comment 44

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Protocol handlers are in bug 419213, this is search only, and I think we're done here, too.

Alexander, if you agree, close this bug out and test it on some nightlies for verification?

Comment 45

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

(In reply to comment #44)
> Protocol handlers are in bug 419213, this is search only, and I think we're
> done here, too.
> 
> Alexander, if you agree, close this bug out and test it on some nightlies for
> verification?
> 
I'm considering to include http://torg.mail.ru/ as shopping search engine (see comment #4 and comment #5 for info). I've mailed them yesterday, haven't heard back yet.   
I think I'll leave this bug open for a while. 

Comment 46

[Mic Berman]

updating for mailto for Yandex. here are the instructions from yandex team

----- Original Message -----
From: "Андрей Винокуров" <andvin@ya...team.ru>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:08:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: mailto protocol for Firefox 3 russia]

http://mail.yandex.ru/compose?mailto=*

For the link <a href="mailto:[e-mail]"> the URL sent to our
server should be http://mail.yandex.ru/compose?mailto=[e-mail]
(it can be
http://mail.yandex.ru/compose?mailto=mailto:[e-mail] as well,
our server handle any address with or without 'mailto:' correctly) 

Comment 47

[Mic Berman]

oops on my post comment #46, will move to bug 419213
sorry ;)

Comment 48

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Update Wikipedia search engine

Update Wikipedia search engine (see rationale in Bug 425431). Also I've improved description of this search engine.

Comment 49

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 312061 [details] [diff] [review]
Update Wikipedia search engine

r=me, please check in with comment referencing this bug and my review.

Comment 50

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment 312061 [details] [diff] has been checked-in on trunk:
Checking in searchplugins/wikipedia-ru.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/wikipedia-ru.xml,v  <--  wikipedia-ru.xml
new revision: 1.4; previous revision: 1.3
done

Comment 51

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Update Yandex search plugin

Additional patch for Yandex search plugin (add Params elements in Suggest URL, as done for Wikipedia search plugin)

Comment 52

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 312579 [details] [diff] [review]
Update Yandex search plugin

r=me on this clean up for the yandex plugin.

Comment 53

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment 312759 [details] [diff] has been checked-in on trunk:
Checking in searchplugins/yandex.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/yandex.xml,v  <--  yandex.xml
new revision: 1.4; previous revision: 1.3
done

Comment 54

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Add torg.mail.ru search engine

Add torg.mail.ru search engine to provide user choice (see comment #4 and comment #5 for info).
Original search plugin is http://torg.mail.ru/files/opensearch.xml
I did my best to convert it to Mozilla's format and made few tests, works fine for me.
Contact in Mail.ru - Igor V. Yermakov, Director of software development, email: yermakov (at) corp.mail.ru

Comment 55

[Mic Berman]

replacing yandex commerce search that was being considered with torg.mail.ru as it's a good shopping engine with good user experience. ok by me. 

will post official permission when we have it. currently alexander indicated (in IRC chat) that he has permission and will be sure I have copy in my inbox shortly. 

Comment 56

[Mic Berman]

official permission from torg.mail.ru

----- Original Message -----
From: "Virin Fedor" <>
To: mic
Cc: "Alexander L. Slovesnik" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 9:12:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: approve for use torg in FF3

Michal Berman

At request of Alexander Slovesnik we grant you permission to use
reference to torg.mail.ru in Firefox 3.

Yours
Fedor Virin
head of research
Mail.ru

Comment 57

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Comment on attachment 314119 [details] [diff] [review]
Add torg.mail.ru search engine

r=me.

Comment 58

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

attachment 314119 [details] [diff] [review] has been checked in trunk
Checking in searchplugins/list.txt;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/list.txt,v  <--  list.txt
new revision: 1.9; previous revision: 1.8
done
RCS file: /l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/torgmailru.xml,v
done
Checking in searchplugins/torgmailru.xml;
/l10n/l10n/ru/browser/searchplugins/torgmailru.xml,v  <--  torgmailru.xml
initial revision: 1.1
done

Comment 59

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

I guess this bug can be marked as fixed.

Comment 60

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

And concealed with a kiss, http://hg.mozilla.org/users/axel_mozilla.com/l10n-src-verification/index.cgi/file/7eb51860f7cb/reference/HEAD/ru/.

Marking VERIFIED.

Comment 61

[Mic Berman]

:) :) :)