861243 - migrate manifesto to bedrock

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: Legacy PHP system, defect, P3)

Description

[Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch]]

Please migrate http://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto.en.html and the L10N pages (seen here http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.org/trunk/about/) to Bedrock.

Some thought needs to be given to how to migrate the L10N pages due to unique url structure vs how Bedrock's localized urls work.

Comment 1

[George Fiotakis]

Cross-posting from bug#433928:

Since we are going to migrate the page on bedrock, this might be a good time to discuss if we really need the "translation provided by:" part.

IMHO, this is the core document of the foundation and if we absolutely want translation credits there, the respective local communities should be mentioned instead of individuals (or at least along with them, preferably with links to local sites/mailing lists and probably mozillians.org accounts with public info to add visibility).
Local communities can attribute the translation to individuals (if they want/need to) on their own pages.

My 2¢ on the matter: Drop it all the way.
Reasons:
1) We are members of the mozilla community and we are proud of what we do anyway - no need for credits.
2) If we have lots of localized pages/content and only a single document with translation credits, it looks like "We are the X-locale mozilla community and this Y-person is not one of us".
3) If we want to have credits on the site, we should have a dedicated page like the one we had back in the day on mozilla-europe.org (btw, http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/about/contributors/ and all localized versions of the page is still live!)

Comment 2

[David Boswell]

+1 to George's suggestion.  We should follow standard web l10n best practices when we migrate this content over.  

We can thank people in the Credits page if they're not already there instead of in the localized pages themselves.

Comment 3

[Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch]]

+1 to George and David's suggestion.  Let's move forward with removing the credits from the manifesto.

Can we also go ahead and redirect http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/about/contributors/ to http://www.mozilla.org/credits/ since it appears to have been never updated or hacked?  Is there a current owner of mozilla-europe.org?  I will start a new bug for this issue, but if anyone wants to answer here, that would be helpful.

Comment 4

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

> Can we also go ahead and redirect
> http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/about/contributors/ to
> http://www.mozilla.org/credits/ since it appears to have been never updated
> or hacked?  Is there a current owner of mozilla-europe.org?  I will start a
> new bug for this issue, but if anyone wants to answer here, that would be
> helpful.

I am the theoretical historical owner of mozilla-europe (mostly because nobody wanted to work on it). mozilla-europe.org should just be redirected to mozilla.org, all the key pages have been redirecting to first mozilla.com and later to mozilla.org equivalent pages for close to a couple of years now. That was part of the plan 2 years ago, redirect traffic to equivalent pages on mozilla.org and later either create a europe.mozilla.org domain for the community (since mozilla-europe.org was a community site) or close the server and redirect the domain name. I mentionned that again 4 months ago here https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680287#c2 and more recently also said that to malexis last week I think. Please, shut it down :)

Comment 5

[[github robot]]

Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/a3b3f8214caefd6a3b0522765211cdb914d0d7d9
Bug 861243 Migrate Manifesto page to bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/c33539fd413d0218a472688bf4cd499aa35009ef
Merge pull request #783 from retornam/bug-861243-migrate-manifesto

Bug 861243 Migrate Manifesto page to bedrock

Comment 6

[Chris More [:cmore]]

After localized versions of the new bedrock manifesto are complete and verified, we will need manual redirects created since the URLs are non-standard.

Example: http://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto.fr.html -> http://www.mozilla.org/fr/about/manifesto/

Comment 7

[Paul [:pmac] McLanahan]

The en-US version looks good on stage.

Comment 8

[raymond [:retornam] (inactive)]

fixed on stage https://www.allizom.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

Comment 9

[raymond [:retornam] (inactive)]

verified fixed http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

Comment 10

[Steven Garrity [:sgarrity]]

When starting work on the l10n versions of this page in bedrock, I noticed some inconsistencies between the English version of the manifesto that on the PHP site [1] and the version that was added to Bedrock [2]. There is a paragraph missing, a bullet list item removed, and a few minor character changes (some appear to be typos).

Here's a diff of the before (in red) and the after (in green): https://gist.github.com/sgarrity/5535531/revisions


[1] http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.org/trunk/about/manifesto.en.html?view=markup
[2] http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

Comment 11

[Paul [:pmac] McLanahan]

Good catch Steven. Those are definitely bugs.

Comment 12

[raymond [:retornam] (inactive)]

Good catch Steven. I have corrected this in https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/840

Comment 13

[[github robot]]

Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/f7ecb3cb3284401d99e5af67a61e8b9fc3781247
Bug 861243 migrate manifesto page

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/95d4cdd494f12e0107b5474a9fd9929dc0f60321
Merge pull request #840 from retornam/bug-861243-migrate-manifesto

Bug 861243 migrate manifesto page

Comment 14

[raymond [:retornam] (inactive)]

fixed https://www.allizom.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

Comment 15

[raymond [:retornam] (inactive)]

verified fixed https://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto/