Closed Bug 87738 Opened 23 years ago Closed 10 years ago

Fonts look jagged sometimes, highlighting (selecting) text fixes them

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(Core :: Graphics: Text, defect)

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(Reporter: fleona, Unassigned)

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(Keywords: fonts)

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From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.1+) Gecko/20010623 BuildID: 2001062306 Some strange behaviour when displaying fonts. Happens most frequently with thin fonts like abobe courier. In all parts of mozilla, sometimes the text look jagged and highlighting the text fixes it. Scrolling up and down the text is a good way to "break" the fonts so they look jagged. Happens on other fonts too. Also, when writing mail and scrolling between lines of text, sometimes they get broken in half and even get the window all dirty. Again, highlighting the text fixes this Reproducible: Sometimes Steps to Reproduce: 1.Just browse, and watch out for the text. Do a lot of scrolling to "help" the bug to show up 2.See the problems in font rendering 3.Highlight the text Actual Results: Fonts look ugly. Highlighting the text fixes it Expected Results: Fonts should always be clean Attaching 2 screenshots that shows up both issues (dirty window, bad font rendering) Why this should be a "minor" bug, it's really a bother
See attachment 40015 [details] and attachment 40016 [details] for a before-and-after look This is catfood to me See bug 87055 for more info. 87055 depends on this one?
Keywords: nsCatFood
In those 2 screenshots, take a look at this On the first one: all words with a letter that goes down (like g and p) looks broken. Between that first line and the second they are 2 black spots of old text that was there and got deleted. The window remains dirty Then watch the straight line. Looks like a drunk person drawed it. After highlighting the text with the mouse, it cleans out to look like the second screenshot
I use adobe courier for monospace fonts, and don't see the bug you describe. WFM, using XFree86 4.0.3 w/xfs. Please add info about your Linux distribution, X-server and fontserver version, font size setup and resolution in Mozilla, as well as X resolution and preferred fontsize. Furthermore: Are you using ISO8859-1 charset or other?
see attachment 39979 [details] to see what fonts are being loaded Mandrake 8, Xfree 4.0.3, FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "unix/:-1" is on my XF86Config file adobe courier is at size 16, proportional is set to serif, size 18 :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp -dpi 100 is on my xserver's settings that deferglyhps line looks suspicious... i will remove it
Just deactived the glyph 16 thing. Same jag, but seems less frequent now. Was i instructing X to deglyph when font size was 16? This sounds logical. But why this wasn't an issue with older builds? Found another way to reproduce. The commit button here on bugzilla looks jagged by default, clicking and releasing fixes it, then clicking and holding the button down shows the button jagged (gimp has problems to make screenshots holding down the button) Anyway, i will be playing with this for a while. If i find a big jagged text i will get a screen up
I believe "deferglyphs = 16" is used for "lazy loading" of 16-bit fonts (like asian fonts) so that shouldn't be the culprit. The RH setup obviously differs from Mandrake's. RH uses a file /etc/X11/fs/config to set up most font related stuff, not the XF86Config-4 file. My own setup in /etc/X11/fs/config looks like this: client-limit = 10 clone-self = on catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1, /usr/share/AbiSuite/fonts, /usr/share/fonts/ja/TrueType default-point-size = 120 default-resolutions = 75,75,100,100 deferglyphs = 16 use-syslog = on no-listen = tcp -------- Are you sure you updated the font rpm's when you installed XFree86 4.0.3? I too use adobe courier as monospace font, but i use MS Arial for both serif and sans serif font, and thus see the Arial font-face on the Commit button. For fun: Attaching screenshot (excerpt) of this page with fonts blown up to 200%. That is Adobe Courier as monospace font, rendered by XFree86-xfs 4.0.3 (and Arial for serif/sans-serif fonts).
Could you specify what exactly in the attachment looks wrong? It would help if you could attach a xmag of one the jaggy glyphs. Could you also display the page with NS_FONT_DEBUG=9 and attach the output? eg: ./mozilla http://www.somesys.com/somepage.html Could you attach a xmag of the glyph displayed via xfd of what you expect to be the correct glyph? (I'm not trying to make it so hard you give up, so please do not give up. I'm trying to get enough information to figure out what is happening.)
Assignee: karnaze → bstell
oops, the attachment is a xmag of 40015 not 40047
> gimp has problems to make screenshots holding down the button one way to get an image of a pressed button is to have a short delay before xwd -id <window id> 1) use xwininfo to get the window id of the commit button 2) sleep 5; xwd -id <window id> > junk.xwd 3) in the 5 second delay press the commit button 4) use gimp / xwud to display the image 5) use xmag to get a magnified version 6) use gimp to convert to PNG
dark's attachment looks exactly like 0.9.1 looks for me Since xfree 4.0.3 comes with mandrake, i didn't have to update the font list The main question to ask here is: why does 0.9.1 work ok for me and 0.9.1+ does not? Without changing anything on my system. Dark: the mandrake files for xfs are exactly handled in the same way. XF86Config file only comes set up to load the xfs font list FontPath "unix/:-1" is on my XF86Config file But i also have your fs/config file and it looks like this: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mozilla-fonts, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western Both our files are wrong :) 100 dpi fonts should get loaded before 75 one, and late on the list there is mention to mozilla fonts and even ttf fonts, so i will try moving up the order. Still, like i said, paid attention to this: Mozilla looks good on 0.9.1, not on 0.9.1+ without touching my computer's config. Like i said on the other bug, i used 0.9.1's unix.js file and put it in the newer 0.9.1+ dir. It does _not_ fix the problem for me
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from bug 87055 ------ Additional Comments From Francisco León 2001-06-26 14:10 ------- ... I must also say that the commit button looks jagged in 0.9.1 too, until i click it, as i exposed in attachment 40082 [details]
I looked at the glyphs in the list of loaded fonts and the glyphs look like either one of these: -Adobe-Times-Medium-R-Normal-18-180-75-75-P-94-ISO8859-1 -adobe-times-medium-r-normal-19-140-100-100-p-95-iso8859-1 None of the other fonts are close. Rather than a font problem it looks to me that there is a one pixel "left shift of the top 7 pixels". This looks like a layout problem to me (and it is seen before my latest font changes) so back to karnaze.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
re-assign to karnaze
Assignee: bstell → karnaze
Keywords: fonts
*** Bug 88406 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 80668 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
This has gotten worse in recent builds. Increasing severity. When highlighting text and delete it in mail, all mail text gets erased from the screen, and when highlighting the rest of mail, it appears again. Screenshots coming...
Severity: minor → normal
Literally, text gets cut , but it does not happen by just scrolling, you need to delete some text in mail, so the text "reubicates" itself, and when it does, the text dissapears.
Francisco: would you try turning off your font server and see if that has any effect?
Francisco: is this a different issue than the one reported in bug 95280? I suspect that since this seems to occur with scaled fonts and not occur with non-scaled fonts that this is a server side problem. However, until we understand the problem it does not make sense to apply a fix.
Since i have my font.scale settings in size 20 and i am using lower sizes, wouldn't that mean i have font scaling disabled? So that would mean an issue not related to that bug you mentioned. It's part of this one (jagging) Disabling my xfs server would require some changes around here... I will try it asap
Ok, i killed my font server Monospace font looks beautiful, attaching screenshot... However, when i select the text, erase it, and scroll up the text dissapears until i highlight it again...
So i think this establishes that it's not a font problem, but a layout problem caused by mozilla getting the fonts dirty when it tries to push text lines up or down when scrolling or deleting text. When scaling fonts, all lines disappear but the first or last one, that one looks jagged. When not scaling fonts, all lineas disappear. There are tons of bugs caused by text positioning or scrolling.
-->ftang
Assignee: karnaze → ftang
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Target Milestone: --- → Future
*** Bug 125810 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 123811 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Does this also cover the case of a line not being jagged at all, but shifting anyway? On this page: http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_tuncom/major/mtc-00027626.htm The top line shifts 1 px right when I select any of it. Reload shifts it back left. Most of the paragraphs as well shift the whole line of text as soon as it's highlighted. But this is quite differant from the 'jagged' font when scrolling thing, at least in apperance. I don't have to scroll at all for the above to happen, and the font is never jagged, the whole letter, from top to bottom, just shifts. Are they both covered here?
being the bug reporter, that behaviour you describe is covered in this bug
Jeremey: This bug is about part of the text pixels (eg: the upper half of a line) being shifted relative to another part (eg: the lower half of a line). Does the text unshift when you unhighlight it?
I'm having this exact problem with Windows 2000, Mozilla build 2002020406. When I go to the web page mentioned in an earlier comment, http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_tuncom/major/mtc-00027626.htm if I scroll down with the down arrow three times, then up arrow three times, I always got the offset text (the top few pixels are offset to the left one pixel; the break corresponds to a place where the screen was scrolled to between down arrows). Some additional possibly useful information: I have my monitor set to 1200x1600, so I use large fonts. I see this when I set the font size to 12, 16, or 24 pixels, but not when it's set to 9 pixels. I have this in my users.js file: user_pref("font.minimum-size.x-western", 20);
Blocks: 134942
bug 112673 is probably a dup
Mark: does it matter which font you select?
I tried several fonts, and all seemed to give the problem, including Times New Roman. However, it seems very sensitive to window size: when I made my window full screen, the bug goes away on the DOJ page, though I got it on other pages, e.g. http://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=23&t=001885&p=6 (On that page, as I move thru the page with up and down arrows, something like 1 line in 100 gets munged.) Also, when I turned back on "Allow documents to use other fonts", I didn't have the problem until I resized the window a little, and then it came back. BTW, this is the bug keeping me from using Mozilla on Windows.
I'm unsure what this bug is meant to now capture due to all the additional comments. Is it a) When scrolling the page text is offset causing it to become jagged b) When scrolling parts of the text disappear completely Either way, can the reporter (Francisco León) confirm that the bug(s) reported are still happening in a recent nightly build. It would also be helpful if the resolution of X (which can be found by doing xdpyinfo | grep reso) and the DPI of Mozilla (Preferences -> Fonts -> Display resolution) could also be added to if it still occurs. If the bug(s) no longer occur please can the reporter resolve it WORKSFORME.
I see this bug all the time on Windows. I don't think it is an X-specific problem. See <a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138521">Bug #138521</a> for a description and a screen shot.
the bug still happens. Using all standard dpi settings (72dpi for the server, 96dpi for mozilla) on rc1 i am trying a hacked freetype lib with hinting, i will post later with my results
what a difference... Now i am using 92x92 dpi (weird dpi settings) with 96 dpi in mozilla, and using a freetype hack found in http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1928, using the freetype rpms for mandrake 8.2 found on that webpage My problems are gone with any font. However, surfing at pclinuxonline is reaaally slow because the freetype library impacts performance. The windows user can try enabling "smooth fonts" in his display settings to see if ./ improves
I have smooth fonts enabled, and the bug still happens on RC1. Note that is not just /. that triggers the bug - it can be seen on any page. If I scroll around, the text will become "broken".
This looks like it could well be related to bug 120918. Francisco León did you restart mozilla after you changed the font size in it to 96dpi when you were running X at 72dpi? If not can you test at 72dpi again (with moz set to 96dpi) and report back?
yes i did restart. i am no longer able to reproduce this at any mozilla dpi setting. I must remind you that i am no longer using a "default" rc1 mozilla since i did the changes proposed in the pclinuxonline url i gave earlier.
Has anyone seen this problem in a post bug 120918 fix (after 2002-04-12) build? This bug seems to be cross platform and it seems to be something like a math rounding error since changing DPI seems to affect it. If I had to guess I'd say bug 120918 looks like a it could be related since it is in cross platform code and changes the rounding of x/y for redraw.
Francisco, which build of mozilla are you using?
Yes, I'm still having the problem with the 2002042403 build (on Windows 2000).
rc1, whatever build that is (i'm not near my moz computer) gotten from pclinuxonline.com as rpm
Still there, with RC3 on Linux with Freetype disabled.
We know we have a layout problem; see bug 80530 and bug 134942. I have a strong feeling this is a symptom of that layout bug.
I'm seeing the same problem with Mozilla 1.1a on both x86 Linux and SPARC Solaris. I've seen it with older versions of Mozilla as well. I haven't changed the font preferences, so Mozilla is using the default font. Here's the Solaris info: Resolution: 1152x900x24 OS version: Solaris 8 Mozilla build ID: 2002061401 Font path: /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3/ /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/ /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
I too experience the mangled fonts when scrolling a page. It appears as though the entire font is not being rendered as the page is scrolled. If I stop scrolling and reload the page, the font is redrawn correctly. If I begin scrolling again, some number of lines later, pixels will again not be rendered. My experience is that an entire scanline of pixels is not rendered so the font looks compressed (vertically) or chopped in height. I see this on a stock RH7.2 installation with Mozilla build ID: 2002060511
I'm seeing this same problem on Solaris 8 SPARC with Mozilla 1.1. When scrolling, it appears that a row of pixels disappears out of the middle of a row of text. Partially covering the window with another window and then uncovering it causes the covered text to be redisplayed properly. It's clear that the pixels are missing from the text, not from the entire page. I'll add an attachment showing the missing pixels. The problem occurs on many different web pages. I'm using the default Mozilla fonts except for using Lucida Sans Typewriter for Monospace. I'm using the default Solaris font path.
This bug seems closly related to bug 94739, which is bothering me a lot. It still occurs frequently in Moz 1.2 beta, and significantly reduces readability om lots of pages.
This bug has been around a really long time, reported in various ways, and on many platforms (except Mac to my knowledge). This may be a shot in the dark but could this be an issue with the off screen rendering not being correctly blitted to the screen? Pav: could you comment on this?
There is really no way for the font code to generate fonts where some of the glyphs in a line have the pixels shifted. In X the app does not actually handle the glyphs' pixels, the X server does. Specifically, http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=99448&action=view "Missing pixels in next to last line of text" cannot be generated by moz's *font* code. However, to hide the building of the display image, moz renders to an off screen window then blits the final result pixels to the display. This could cause pixels to be lost if the source or destination location was off by one. Could someone who can reproduce this try setting the double buffering pref to false and see if it "fixes" this problem? pref("viewmanager.do_doublebuffering", true);
>Could someone who can reproduce this try setting the double buffering pref to>false and see if it "fixes" this problem?It does not.If it at all helps, I am using: x86 Linux (2.4.19) XFree86-4.2.0 egcs-2.91.66 glibc-2.1.3
I've started seeing this bug again as of 2003032108. See the USDOJ example provided earlier.
I am seeing this bug, too. I am using Mozilla 1.3 on Linux 2.4.18 (Red Hat 7.3). I can reproduce the problem using the attached scrolltest.html file. It contains several paragraphs of text with a different line height definition. I just load it into Mozilla (make the window small enough to have something to scroll) and position it such that only the upper half of the text line at the bottom is visible. Then I click on the "down" arrow of the scrollbar to scroll down one line. It turns out that the bug occurs only if an odd line hight is defined for that paragraph.
Is anything going to happen to fix this bug? I find it really very annoying. BTW, I found out that it is present in the Galeon browser, too. This browser is based on Mozilla. On the other hand, if I use any other web browser (like konquerer, opera), I don't have such problems. This convinces me that it has nothing to do with the X server. I think it's just a bug in the Mozilla rendering engine when calculating text positions during scrolling.
In order to further analyse the problem I have prepared this GIF. It is a combination of two mozilla screenshots showing the same document (actually a part of the HTML which I attached earlier), one with jagged fonts and the other one with the correct ones. The left side shows the jagged fonts, the right side the normal ones. I put a vertical on the edge between these two areas to make it more visible. I didn't scroll the upper two lines before making the screenshot, so there are no jagged characters even on the left side. But for the others, you can see that the characters are not only corrupted, but also in the wrong position (one pixel too high). I think this is the root cause of the problem. When scrolling, sometimes only the upper or lower half of a text line is visible on the screen. Eventually, the other half will become visible, too. If Mozilla calculates wrong positions for some of these partial text lines, you have a good chance of seeing these jagged characters, because the positions of the different parts don't match.
*** Bug 135012 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
The bug is still reproducible with Mozilla 1.6 on Solaris 9 SPARC (version 4/03) with GNOME2. Mozilla 1.6 was built in the following configuration: --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2 --disable-ldap --enable-crypto --disable-mathml --disable-tests --disable-debug --enable-js-ultrasparc
*** Bug 229894 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Bug is reproduceable with FiroFox 0.8 on Linux/kde3.1
I can reproduce this bug with Mozilla nightly 2004061508 and I was also experiencing this bug for as long as I remember. For me the problem appears in lines which were at the bottom of the window when page was scrolled up. It disappears after display is refreshed for any reason - switching windows, switching desktops, selecting and de-selecting text - all these make problem disappear. However when browsing the web such ugly fonts can be really problematic as they make reading quite difficult. This problem is reproducible both with smooth scrolling enabled and disabled however positioning of garbled lines vary in each mode. Without smooth scrolling enabled garbled lines are away from each other while with smooth scrolling enabled they are close. Attaching screenshots (I marked some garbled lines with red dots). As a side note, the problem with making screenshots with GIMP is that the problem disappears after window refresh - I suggest setting a timeout of 10 to 20 seconds in GIMP, launching screenhot capturing, switching to Mozilla, making it display fonts badly and then waiting for the screen capture to be activated.
Attached image Screenshot without smooth scrolling (obsolete) —
Screenshot of URL http://www.cio.com/archive/061504/itwork.html with smooth scrolling disabled; garbled lines close to each other.
Screenshot of URL http://www.cio.com/archive/061504/itwork.html with smooth scrolling disabled; garbled lines separated by several lines.
Screenshot of URL http://www.cio.com/archive/061504/itwork.html with smooth scrolling enabled; garbled lines close to each other.
Attachment #151276 - Attachment is obsolete: true
I noticed something else that may help is resolving this issue. The distored fonts also happens outside of the browser's web page window. For example the Find bar at the bottom of the window. My panel on KDE is set to hide and I noticed that the "Find:" text label is not redrawn correctly all the time when the panel hides. You can notice this also by dragging a smaller window over the "Find:" text. If you try enough by dragging another window half over the "Find:" text you can get "Fi" on one line and "nd:" about 2 pixels above it. I can also get the "Look in" drop box in the "Save Link As" dialog box to do this also. To make a long story short I think the problem may be in the toolkit (GTK?) instead of the code used to render web pages. I am using version 1.0 with Linux. Hope this helps.
-> to default owner
Assignee: ftang → nobody
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
QA Contact: chrispetersen → layout
As you can see, the text on the right side of these two paragraph tags becomes jagged and bold when hovering over a navigation element on the page.
I have (with some initial trouble) managed to install 2.0.0.6 and now face all overtyped lines - in every second line. Hiliting makes the content IN SOME CASES readible, in others its content is not readible. I have not changed anything from my previous Thunderbird setup, I am not a system expert and hope you can give me a simple-to-do solution.... I can show you a screen shot of one of my notes lists which shows the problem... HELP... G.L.
Attach to my previous comment - I cannot read my notes lists any more, some of the overtype texts seem to be from duplicate messages, but cannot be identified. I use WIN2000 as OpSys and did not change anything in the setup of previous Thunderbird, (only now I did try your tool Options and Compact if over... as described, but it did not change ANYTHING for this error)... Guenter Lanz
The new textframe landed, as well as the unit fix. Does this issue still show up?
Just additionally: same/similar problem exist now with MOZILLA 2.0.0.7 within the 'Active Tag'-line of Firefox after opening an additional tag. Within Thunderbird and Firefox, both I did not find new updated versions checking in the internet for it. And the error still persists... should I do anything different??? Greatful for any hint to be read also by non-system-specialists... Thanks in advance, Guenter. Attachment folllows...
This is a Trunk bug, please test with a trunk build (Gecko 1.9, Firefox 3.0).
Don't see this in Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090420 Minefield/3.6a1pre (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) ID:20090420041629 Fixed?
Given that this is an 1px-off bug, it was most likely fixed by the unit fix.
I am not a system specialist, I use Win2000 english, I use Mozilla and Thunderbird Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 AND I can report, the ERROR still persists in Thunderbird (the erroneous line changes when hiliting, but after changes back to error again) AND in Mozilla, can be seen in the line showing active Tags (writing/pictures overlap). HOWEVER: the error WAS disappearing when calling the older JAVA version - not any more; BUT the error IS DISAPPEARING after I START UP my HP-Scanner-Software (which obviously calls a software component making the error disappear, but I dont know which one...) That is the status today, 21.4.2009 23h...whoever can tell me,what software component is missing when calling either Thunderbird or Mozilla - tell me, plse... Guenter Lanz
Component: Layout → Graphics: Text
Summary: Fonts look jagged sometimes, highlighting text fixes them → Fonts look jagged sometimes, highlighting (selecting) text fixes them
Given lack of testcase from reporter, it's not clear to me this ancient bug still exists as defined by the reporter. Does attachment 125745 [details] really matches reporter's issue? Note, reporter's email address is dead, as is Charlie's. Perhaps this should be closed, and anyone seeing problems file a new bug.
Target Milestone: Future → ---
Since my change to new PC with Win7 this error disappeared, so no problem any more for Win7.G.L.
Anyone still seeing a problem, please file a new bug
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → INCOMPLETE
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