164421 - Bugs that annoy Internet Explorer users switching to Mozilla (IE parity)

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Core Graveyard :: Tracking, defect)

Description

[Alex Hosking]

This is a tracking bug to track bugs that until fixed annoy IE who are just 
starting top use Mozilla.

Comment 1

[Oliver Klee]

Shouldn't the dependencies be the other way around, ie. this bug being blocked
by the other bugs?

Comment 2

[Tuukka Tolvanen (sp3000)]

->

Comment 3

[Alfonso Martinez]

I just don't know what does it matter bug 61710 to IE users.

Comment 4

[Wesha]

I nominate bug 164218 (duped to bug 56765), and slow scrolling issues.

Comment 5

[Cees T.]

IE whips Mozilla at bug 19437, bug 75915, bug 124608, and bug 106708.

Comment 6

[Mihail Daskalov]

Adding something that could typing, and especially correcting, URLs much easier
bug 165472.

Comment 7

[Mihail Daskalov]

adding bug 166061, bug 113874, bug 111102, bug 144593

Comment 8

[Alex Hosking]

Not sure of spme tech evangelism bugs should be in this bug not sure I was
thinking only the very worst or ones that reduce functionality in Mozilla.

Comment 9

[Manko]

Adding NTLM authentication bugs (23679, 35159)

Comment 10

[José Jeria]

There seems to be a looooooot of bugs that annoy IE-users ;-)

Comment 11

[Manko]

Adding bug 47475 (Need "show-image" item on right-click menu) - this is really
annoying bug. But I would prompt to remove bug 74241 - it's a bad idea.

Comment 12

[José Jeria]

Adding bug 113591, when using IE in offline-mode i can easily see just by
hovering links that they are not availabe (mouse pointer change), and if I click
on one thats its not i get prompted if I want to connect.

Nothing of the above happends in Mozilla.

Comment 13

[Peter Lairo]

I wonder if this bug is morphing from _annoy_ IE users, to _identical_ to IE.

For instance, bug 166518 is hardly "annoying".
--> bug 166518: ToolTips should animate and not appear on the screen

Before this bug gets too carried away, maybe we should consider tightening the
focus a bit. :-\

There must be some other bug or keyword to track IE parity features (but not
necessarily "annoying"). Kind of like KW = "4xp".

Comment 14

[Alex Hosking]

This isnt about Making Mozilla IE if it was maybe bug 51015 would be in the 
dependacys

Comment 15

[Skewer]

Bug 72493 (I hope mail/OE bugs are OK here): Need ability to sort threads.

Comment 16

[Skewer]

Bug 15322: Movement of toolbars
Bug 170655: Small icons in toolbar

Comment 17

[Alex Hosking]

Removing dupes

Comment 18

[Eugene Savitsky]

I believe we should spend more attention to this bug since this will help
Mozilla/NN on the browser gain more attention from people and market share.

Comment 19

[Alex Hosking]

Had to ad this one First time I open Mozilla I had Take a pill to calm down!!

Comment 20

[Dan Houson]

Removed bug 61710, would be a good idea maybe when toolbar customisation 
comes, but nothing to do with IE, unless you have power tools for IE 5.

Comment 21

[Alex Hosking]

I think the IE 5 "power tools" button whas why it was there

Comment 22

[Mike Fedyk]

Please don't remove bugs that are fixed or resolved, it shows progress made on
this bug.

The dup that was removed was good because it was duped to bug 30431, which is
already on the list.

Comment 23

[Alex Hosking]

I was only removing bugs that have been made duplicate of worksforme

Comment 24

[José Jeria]

Adding bug 57607, which loads background images (they popup) when you change
tabs or scroll background image into view.

Comment 25

[Manko]

Adding bug 211092, critical for Intranet applications.

Comment 26

[Brett Taylor]

Bug 58305 is a IE parity bug that has been bugging many people using CMSs for a
LONG TIME.

Comment 27

[Zibi Braniecki [:zbraniecki][:gandalf]]

bug 177966 - Many people moving from OE to TB or Mozilla are complaining about
it (moving watched threads to the beggining of the list)

Comment 28

[Steve Chapel]

In the Status Whiteboard field, "parity-ie" indicates the desired feature exists
in Internet Explorer. This bug should depend on the most annoying of parity-ie
bugs, and also other bugs such as problems with importing data from Internet
Explorer into Mozilla.

I'm not sure if this bug should also track annoyances with moving from Outlook
or Outlook Express to Mozilla Mail or Thunderbird, since none of those are
listed in the Summary and this bug is in the Browser Component. If it is
supposed to, I suggest updating the Summary accordingly.

Comment 29

[Marc Bejarano]

this bug should also depend on bug 18808 and bug 36269

Comment 30

[Jungshik Shin]

adding two bugs requested in the previous comment.

Comment 31

[Marc Bejarano]

could we also add bug 87098?  IE has the desired bahavior from that bug and i
miss it.

Comment 32

[Troodon]

Proposing bug 56314

Comment 33

[Sergey Sokoloff]

Adding my personal #1 webmaster's annoyance, bug 38447 (Implement Handling of
URI Values on CSS "cursor" Properties).

The #2 annoyance (Bug 77790) seems to be already added.

Comment 34

[Marc Bejarano]

adding:
bug 87098 proposed in comment #31
bug 56314 proposed in comment #32
bug 251784

Comment 35

[Tobias Sager]

What about bug 232895?

Comment 36

[Marc Bejarano]

tobias: added bug 232895

Comment 37

[Tobias Sager]

I propose bug 257895.

Comment 38

[Tobias Sager]

Bug 204519 would be a candidate imho.

Comment 39

[Worcester12345]

(In reply to comment #38)
> Bug 204519 would be a candidate imho.

yup!

Comment 40

[Masayuki Nakano [:masayuki] (he/him)(JST, +0900)]

Proposing bug 279246.
This bug is important for marketing in Japan.

Comment 41

[Marc Bejarano]

bug 279246 added

Comment 42

[u88484]

Just cleaning up this tracking bug. I removed all the duped bugs in which the
dupe was fixed. And removed all other resolved bugs as they no longer need
tracked since they are fixed or resolved as invalid or wont fix.

Comment 43

[Dan Fischbach]

What about:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259634 (No program icons in 98/ME,
etc.)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154649

Comment 44

[Marc Bejarano]

re: requests from comment 43, i added bug 171349 (in lieu of bug 259634) and bug
154649.

re: kurt's massive cleanup (from comment 42) i'm not sure we gain all that much
by not tracking the bugs, any more.  isn't it nice to see all the progress we've
made with all those bugs in overstrike ;)

anyway i'm going to add back the following bugs because i think they still annoy
former IE users and this is a good place for them to find them:
bug 74241, bug 146799, bug 204519, bug 211092, bug 232895, bug 252275

for posterity, here are the remaining bug's that got nuked in kurt's massive
purge that aren't already discussed:
bug 7840, bug 18729, bug 23679, bug 30431, bug 32218, bug 35159, bug 57607, bug
58305, bug 69114, bug 72493, bug 75915, bug 89404, bug 98546, bug 103090, bug
106708, bug 111102, bug 113591, bug 114962, bug 125276, bug 144593, bug 170272,
bug 173954, bug 186549

Comment 45

[Alex Hosking]

Agreed

Comment 46

[u88484]

sorry about that, though I was helping by cleaning up and making the bug easier
to follow. sorry for this comment also, just I never apologized last time.

Comment 47

[Ben Guthrie]

another reason for keeping the resolved bugs on the list is that occasionally
they are re-opened ( often an unintended regression - though I guess there are
no "intended" regressions ).  or a "won't fix" becomes a "will fix" - just my 2
cents worth

Comment 48

[Marc Bejarano]

added bug 187573

Comment 49

[Christian Ertl]

Changed bug 38486 in 274784.

Comment 50

[Worcester12345]

Since this is a "core" bug, can the title be changed from "Bugs that annoy
Internet Explorer users switching to Mozilla (IE parity)" to "Bugs that annoy
Internet Explorer, Outlook, and Outlook Express users switching to Mozilla (IE
parity)" or should another bug be opened for the mail component?

In particular, .eml handling and printing are real bugaboos.

Comment 51

[Aaron Kaluszka]

Open another bug for Outlook.  FWIW, we already have a tracking bug for Bugs
that annoy Eudora users switching to Mozilla.

Comment 52

[Worcester12345]

Bugzilla Bug 175787

Comment 53

[Worcester12345]

(In reply to comment #52)
> Bugzilla Bug 175787
> 

This one was missed last month.

Comment 54

[Marc Bejarano]

(In reply to comment #53)
> This one was missed last month.

hrm... some fairly recent bugzilla update must have made it so that only the reporter and folks with special privs can change the DEPENDS field.  i can't help, any more.  alex hosking?  you out there?

Comment 55

[Alex Hosking]

What would you have done if I was deceased?

Comment 56

[Caleb]

(In reply to comment #55)
> What would you have done if I was deceased?

We'd have less useless comments on Bugzilla.

Comment 57

[Thomas Bertels]

added bug 254139

Comment 58

[Worcester12345]

Bugzilla Bug 137014
add "Print Frame" to frame flyout of browser context menu

Bugzilla Bug 157334
IE6 3x faster than Mozilla, concatenating two local strings

Comment 59

[Worcester12345]

Bugzilla Bug 296471
Richer focus model like IE


Bugzilla Bug 225085
Firefox paint performance when scrolling page with flash is very slow compared to IE 6

Comment 60

[Marc Bejarano]

added Bug 137014, Bug 157334, Bug 296471, and Bug 225085 as suggested by  Worcester12345.

Comment 61

[Marc Bejarano]

substituted bug 50504 for bug 19437

Comment 62

[Worcester12345]

Bugzilla Bug 307933
JavaScript focus changes in background tabs are ignored instead of confined

Comment 63

[Daniel Mota Leite]

Bug 386871 should be added to the dependency list... 

"bad behaviour when cert's name components use different character encodings"

IE converts the string, firefox doesnt, and so one secure site in IE is shown as bad/invalid secure site in firefox

Comment 64

[Thomas Bertels]

added bug 250797 "Import navigation toolbar configuration from IE".

Comment 65

[Marc Bejarano]

(In reply to comment #63)
> Bug 386871 should be added

done :)

Comment 66

[Thomas Bertels]

added bug 248352 "When migrating bookmarks from IE, preserve subfolders sort order".

Comment 67

[Damian Shaw [Quan]]

IE now allows setting the page of a new tab doesn't it? Shouldn't this be added?

Comment 68

[BMO Automation]

Marking all tracking bugs which haven't been updated since 2014 as INCOMPLETE.
If this bug is still relevant, please reopen it and move it into a bugzilla component related to the work
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