Closed Bug 1114856 (lingala-keyboard) Opened 7 years ago Closed 3 years ago

Add Lingala (ln) keyboard to Firefox OS - multiple branches

Categories

(Firefox OS Graveyard :: Gaia::Keyboard, defect)

ARM
Gonk (Firefox OS)
defect
Not set
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

RESOLVED WONTFIX

People

(Reporter: delphine, Assigned: rudyl, NeedInfo)

References

Details

Attachments

(2 files, 1 obsolete file)

Request to add a Lingala (ln) keyboard to Firefox OS
[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:
Request for 2.0 and onwards. Thus nominating
blocking-b2g: --- → 2.0?
Flags: needinfo?(bbajaj)
[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:

[Triage] Considering current 2.0 timing and the need from partner, nom. to 2.1 (or even 2.2?) instead for consideration.
blocking-b2g: 2.0? → 2.1?
Clearing blocking nom, refer to comment in : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114866
blocking-b2g: 2.1? → ---
Flags: needinfo?(bbajaj)
[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:
Confirmed this morning by BD we need this in 2.0
blocking-b2g: --- → 2.0?
[Triage]

BD has confirmed the need, recorded in Program Management mana page.
blocking-b2g: 2.0? → 2.0+
Do we know more about for when this is needed exactly?
No one is assigned or working on this. Just want to make sure this is clear if this is urgent....
Flags: needinfo?(wehuang)
Hi Tim. This is a blocker for 2.0 release. Can you or someone from your team work on this please? thanks
Flags: needinfo?(timdream)
This would count as a late request, which we can't tell what we in the short timeframe unless there is a spec first.
Flags: needinfo?(timdream) → needinfo?(firefoxos-ux-bugzilla)
Hi Delphine:

We need information from BD per comment#4&#5, currently partner's R&D team is working on other region's SW so I assume this some early information via business discussion. You can check bug 1129845 (Mozilla only) for the regions partner is working on currently.

@Tony and Nisha: 

Would you help give some light here as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121730#c5? thank you.
Flags: needinfo?(wehuang)
Flags: needinfo?(nmalhan)
Flags: needinfo?(aappleton)
[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:

Per comment 9 denominate this bug from 2.0
blocking-b2g: 2.0+ → 2.0?
Per usual, keyboard UX would have been handled the keyboard UX people who work with that team, Omega and Carol, probably under direction from Bruce. Please contact Omega (setting ni? for him) after CNY to see if that work was completed as part of the Keyboard team's focus for 2.0 and later.
Flags: needinfo?(firefoxos-ux-bugzilla) → needinfo?(ofeng)
Hi Théo,
Does this get covered in bug 1122328? If so we can close this as a dupe.
Thanks!
Flags: needinfo?(theo.chevalier11)
Hi Bruce, answering for Theo since I know the answer: nope, that bug does not cover the Lingala keyboard.
That patch only added a generic keyboard for some African locales by default, but this is not the Lingala specific-keyboard needed. Thanks!
Flags: needinfo?(theo.chevalier11)
[Triage]

For partner working with FxOS 2.0, TAM has communicated to them to handle "languages other then what are already supported in FxOS 2.0" by their own, so this will not block 2.0.

De-mon it from 2.0.
blocking-b2g: 2.0? → ---
Here's a layout proposal based on the Lingala alphabet: http://goo.gl/cAJjqk. I used the alphabet seen on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingala#Alphabet) and reordered based on our current keys.
Flags: needinfo?(ofeng)
Bruce, let me know if the keyboard UX folks should have a look at this as well, or if you're all set.
Flags: needinfo?(bhuang)
Should be fine, I've discussed with Omega and I'm looking more for a local expert to review since there's not much of a UX change here.
Flags: needinfo?(bhuang)
This keyboard is confirmed complete: http://virtualkeyboard.biz/lingala
French is the official language in the DRC. The base keyboard should therefore be French rather than English.
Bruce: looks like we've had more info here with comment 18 (Ian is in contact with local linguists for this). Are you still waiting for more UX input or can we move on with this? thanks
Flags: needinfo?(bhuang)
Rudy: could you please help with moving this forward please? Comment 18 provides the desired keyboard layout. thanks!
Flags: needinfo?(rlu)
Flags: needinfo?(nmalhan)
Flags: needinfo?(aappleton)
Assignee: nobody → rlu
Flags: needinfo?(rlu)
Attached file Patch V1
Attached image Lingala_keyboard.png (obsolete) —
Hi Ian,

Could you please help take a look at the layout to confirm whether it is correct?
Please note that we replace the 'q' with 'ɔ', and 'j' with 'ɛ'.
Do you think we should also include 'q' and 'j' as alternative chars for these keys? 
(i.e. when long pressing on 'ɔ', we would show 'q' as an alternative key)

Thanks.
Attachment #8622421 - Flags: feedback?(ian.henderson)
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
(In reply to Wesly Huang from comment #9)
> Hi Delphine:
> 
> We need information from BD per comment#4&#5, currently partner's R&D team
> is working on other region's SW so I assume this some early information via
> business discussion. You can check bug 1129845 (Mozilla only) for the
> regions partner is working on currently.
> 
> @Tony and Nisha: 
> 
> Would you help give some light here as
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121730#c5? thank you.



In response to this comment, there is no firm requirement at this this time for Lingala i.e. no specific launch yet scheduled where Lingala is a mandatory requirements. As and when this changes, the mana page will be updated.
(In reply to Rudy Lu [:rudyl] from comment #23)
> Created attachment 8622421 [details]
> Lingala_keyboard.png
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> Could you please help take a look at the layout to confirm whether it is
> correct?
> Please note that we replace the 'q' with 'ɔ', and 'j' with 'ɛ'.
> Do you think we should also include 'q' and 'j' as alternative chars for
> these keys? 
> (i.e. when long pressing on 'ɔ', we would show 'q' as an alternative key)
> 
> Thanks.

Hello Rudy,

We have reached out to our Lingala translator for feedback and will update the bug with feedback accordingly.

Thank you.
Hello Rudy,

According to our Lingala translator the layout is not correct. Please refer to his feedback below: 
As far as the two letters are not commonly used in Lingala. I would suggest the replacement of "ɔ" with "q" and "ɛ" with "j" on the keyboard". With that "ɔ" and "ɛ" could be used as alternatives. 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thank you,
Devon
putting a need info on Rudy to make sure this pops up on his radar ;) thanks!
Flags: needinfo?(rlu)
I'll update the patch and provide screenshots for this change.
Thanks for the info.
Flags: needinfo?(rlu)
Attached file Lingala_layout.zip
Screeshots for the updated layout, 

Please be informed we also have the following alternatives for each vowel,
      a: ['á', 'â', 'ǎ'],
      i: ['í', 'î', 'ǐ'],
      e: ['é', 'ê', 'ě'],
      o: ['ó', 'ô', 'ǒ'],
      u: ['ú']

Devon,

If possible, please help give feedback on this change.
Thanks.
Attachment #8627139 - Flags: feedback?(devon.bezuidenhout)
Attachment #8622421 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #8622421 - Flags: feedback?(ian.henderson)
(In reply to Rudy Lu [:rudyl] from comment #29)
> Created attachment 8627139 [details]
> Lingala_layout.zip
> 
> Screeshots for the updated layout, 
> 
> Please be informed we also have the following alternatives for each vowel,
>       a: ['á', 'â', 'ǎ'],
>       i: ['í', 'î', 'ǐ'],
>       e: ['é', 'ê', 'ě'],
>       o: ['ó', 'ô', 'ǒ'],
>       u: ['ú']
> 
> Devon,
> 
> If possible, please help give feedback on this change.
> Thanks.

Hello Rudy,

I have been on a short holiday the last couple of days. I've reached out to our Lingala translator for his feedback and will update you accordingly.

Thank you.
Devon
(In reply to Rudy Lu [:rudyl] from comment #29)
> Created attachment 8627139 [details]
> Lingala_layout.zip
> 
> Screeshots for the updated layout, 
> 
> Please be informed we also have the following alternatives for each vowel,
>       a: ['á', 'â', 'ǎ'],
>       i: ['í', 'î', 'ǐ'],
>       e: ['é', 'ê', 'ě'],
>       o: ['ó', 'ô', 'ǒ'],
>       u: ['ú']
> 
> Devon,
> 
> If possible, please help give feedback on this change.
> Thanks.

Hello Rudy,

We have received the following feedback from our Lingala translator:

"The Lingala keyboard layout is correct. I have no problem with consonants alternatives. However for vowels alternatives, there are some adjustments needed. Some of them need to be dropped and replaced with those that are commonly used in Lingala, and some need to be added. Please refer to the following:
 
a: [ à , â , ǎ ]
i:  [ ï , î , í  ]
e: [ é , è , ê ]
o : [ ô , ó , ǒ ]
u : [ ù , û , ú ]"

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks.
Devon
Flags: needinfo?(left.lu)
(taking ni off of Bruce since not here anymore)
Wilfred: seems like it says Rudy is inactive after 2015/7/3
Can you help drive this forward please? Seems like we have all the info we need and this can be completed now.
Flags: needinfo?(bhuang) → needinfo?(wmathanaraj)
Duplicate of this bug: 1183948
Alias: lingala-keyboard
Flags: needinfo?(wmathanaraj) → needinfo?(aaime)
Old bug - closing
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 3 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Clear ni as it is closed now.
Flags: needinfo?(left.lu)
You need to log in before you can comment on or make changes to this bug.