1114856 - (lingala-keyboard) Add Lingala (ln) keyboard to Firefox OS - multiple branches

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Firefox OS Graveyard :: Gaia::Keyboard, defect)

Description

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Request to add a Lingala (ln) keyboard to Firefox OS

Comment 1

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:
Request for 2.0 and onwards. Thus nominating

Comment 2

[Wesly Huang (EPM)]

[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:

[Triage] Considering current 2.0 timing and the need from partner, nom. to 2.1 (or even 2.2?) instead for consideration.

Comment 3

[bhavana bajaj [:bajaj]]

Clearing blocking nom, refer to comment in : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114866

Comment 4

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:
Confirmed this morning by BD we need this in 2.0

Comment 5

[Wesly Huang (EPM)]

[Triage]

BD has confirmed the need, recorded in Program Management mana page.

Comment 6

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Do we know more about for when this is needed exactly?
No one is assigned or working on this. Just want to make sure this is clear if this is urgent....

Comment 7

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Hi Tim. This is a blocker for 2.0 release. Can you or someone from your team work on this please? thanks

Comment 8

[Tim Guan-tin Chien [:timdream] (please needinfo)]

This would count as a late request, which we can't tell what we in the short timeframe unless there is a spec first.

Comment 9

[Wesly Huang (EPM)]

Hi Delphine:

We need information from BD per comment#4&#5, currently partner's R&D team is working on other region's SW so I assume this some early information via business discussion. You can check bug 1129845 (Mozilla only) for the regions partner is working on currently.

@Tony and Nisha: 

Would you help give some light here as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121730#c5? thank you.

Comment 10

[Josh Cheng [:josh]]

[Blocking Requested - why for this release]:

Per comment 9 denominate this bug from 2.0

Comment 11

[Stephany Wilkes]

Per usual, keyboard UX would have been handled the keyboard UX people who work with that team, Omega and Carol, probably under direction from Bruce. Please contact Omega (setting ni? for him) after CNY to see if that work was completed as part of the Keyboard team's focus for 2.0 and later.

Comment 12

[Bruce Huang [:bhuang] (inactive)]

Hi Théo,
Does this get covered in bug 1122328? If so we can close this as a dupe.
Thanks!

Comment 13

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Hi Bruce, answering for Theo since I know the answer: nope, that bug does not cover the Lingala keyboard.
That patch only added a generic keyboard for some African locales by default, but this is not the Lingala specific-keyboard needed. Thanks!

Comment 14

[Wesly Huang (EPM)]

[Triage]

For partner working with FxOS 2.0, TAM has communicated to them to handle "languages other then what are already supported in FxOS 2.0" by their own, so this will not block 2.0.

De-mon it from 2.0.

Comment 15

[Bruce Huang [:bhuang] (inactive)]

Here's a layout proposal based on the Lingala alphabet: http://goo.gl/cAJjqk. I used the alphabet seen on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingala#Alphabet) and reordered based on our current keys.

Comment 16

[Stephany Wilkes]

Bruce, let me know if the keyboard UX folks should have a look at this as well, or if you're all set.

Comment 17

[Bruce Huang [:bhuang] (inactive)]

Should be fine, I've discussed with Omega and I'm looking more for a local expert to review since there's not much of a UX change here.

Comment 18

[ian.henderson]

This keyboard is confirmed complete: http://virtualkeyboard.biz/lingala

Comment 19

[ian.henderson]

French is the official language in the DRC. The base keyboard should therefore be French rather than English.

Comment 20

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Bruce: looks like we've had more info here with comment 18 (Ian is in contact with local linguists for this). Are you still waiting for more UX input or can we move on with this? thanks

Comment 21

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Rudy: could you please help with moving this forward please? Comment 18 provides the desired keyboard layout. thanks!

Comment 22

[Rudy Lu [:rudyl] (inactive after 2015/7/3)]

Attachment: Patch V1

Comment 23

[Rudy Lu [:rudyl] (inactive after 2015/7/3)]

Attachment: Lingala_keyboard.png

Hi Ian,

Could you please help take a look at the layout to confirm whether it is correct?
Please note that we replace the 'q' with 'ɔ', and 'j' with 'ɛ'.
Do you think we should also include 'q' and 'j' as alternative chars for these keys? 
(i.e. when long pressing on 'ɔ', we would show 'q' as an alternative key)

Thanks.

Comment 24

[[e-mail]]

(In reply to Wesly Huang from comment #9)
> Hi Delphine:
> 
> We need information from BD per comment#4&#5, currently partner's R&D team
> is working on other region's SW so I assume this some early information via
> business discussion. You can check bug 1129845 (Mozilla only) for the
> regions partner is working on currently.
> 
> @Tony and Nisha: 
> 
> Would you help give some light here as
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121730#c5? thank you.



In response to this comment, there is no firm requirement at this this time for Lingala i.e. no specific launch yet scheduled where Lingala is a mandatory requirements. As and when this changes, the mana page will be updated.

Comment 25

[Devon]

(In reply to Rudy Lu [:rudyl] from comment #23)
> Created attachment 8622421 [details]
> Lingala_keyboard.png
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> Could you please help take a look at the layout to confirm whether it is
> correct?
> Please note that we replace the 'q' with 'ɔ', and 'j' with 'ɛ'.
> Do you think we should also include 'q' and 'j' as alternative chars for
> these keys? 
> (i.e. when long pressing on 'ɔ', we would show 'q' as an alternative key)
> 
> Thanks.

Hello Rudy,

We have reached out to our Lingala translator for feedback and will update the bug with feedback accordingly.

Thank you.

Comment 26

[Devon]

Hello Rudy,

According to our Lingala translator the layout is not correct. Please refer to his feedback below: 
As far as the two letters are not commonly used in Lingala. I would suggest the replacement of "ɔ" with "q" and "ɛ" with "j" on the keyboard". With that "ɔ" and "ɛ" could be used as alternatives. 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thank you,
Devon

Comment 27

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

putting a need info on Rudy to make sure this pops up on his radar ;) thanks!

Comment 28

[Rudy Lu [:rudyl] (inactive after 2015/7/3)]

I'll update the patch and provide screenshots for this change.
Thanks for the info.

Comment 29

[Rudy Lu [:rudyl] (inactive after 2015/7/3)]

Attachment: Lingala_layout.zip

Screeshots for the updated layout, 

Please be informed we also have the following alternatives for each vowel,
      a: ['á', 'â', 'ǎ'],
      i: ['í', 'î', 'ǐ'],
      e: ['é', 'ê', 'ě'],
      o: ['ó', 'ô', 'ǒ'],
      u: ['ú']

Devon,

If possible, please help give feedback on this change.
Thanks.

Comment 30

[Devon]

(In reply to Rudy Lu [:rudyl] from comment #29)
> Created attachment 8627139 [details]
> Lingala_layout.zip
> 
> Screeshots for the updated layout, 
> 
> Please be informed we also have the following alternatives for each vowel,
>       a: ['á', 'â', 'ǎ'],
>       i: ['í', 'î', 'ǐ'],
>       e: ['é', 'ê', 'ě'],
>       o: ['ó', 'ô', 'ǒ'],
>       u: ['ú']
> 
> Devon,
> 
> If possible, please help give feedback on this change.
> Thanks.

Hello Rudy,

I have been on a short holiday the last couple of days. I've reached out to our Lingala translator for his feedback and will update you accordingly.

Thank you.
Devon

Comment 31

[Devon]

(In reply to Rudy Lu [:rudyl] from comment #29)
> Created attachment 8627139 [details]
> Lingala_layout.zip
> 
> Screeshots for the updated layout, 
> 
> Please be informed we also have the following alternatives for each vowel,
>       a: ['á', 'â', 'ǎ'],
>       i: ['í', 'î', 'ǐ'],
>       e: ['é', 'ê', 'ě'],
>       o: ['ó', 'ô', 'ǒ'],
>       u: ['ú']
> 
> Devon,
> 
> If possible, please help give feedback on this change.
> Thanks.

Hello Rudy,

We have received the following feedback from our Lingala translator:

"The Lingala keyboard layout is correct. I have no problem with consonants alternatives. However for vowels alternatives, there are some adjustments needed. Some of them need to be dropped and replaced with those that are commonly used in Lingala, and some need to be added. Please refer to the following:
 
a: [ à , â , ǎ ]
i:  [ ï , î , í  ]
e: [ é , è , ê ]
o : [ ô , ó , ǒ ]
u : [ ù , û , ú ]"

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks.
Devon

Comment 32

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

(taking ni off of Bruce since not here anymore)
Wilfred: seems like it says Rudy is inactive after 2015/7/3
Can you help drive this forward please? Seems like we have all the info we need and this can be completed now.

Comment 34

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Old bug - closing

Comment 35

[Rudy Lu [:rudyl] (inactive after 2015/7/3)]

Clear ni as it is closed now.