16343 - Default mail and default nntp server/account

Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 880602

(MailNews Core :: Backend, defect, P3)

Description

[laurel]

This is a feature tracking bug.  Please let me know if we should use a separate
bug for news.

The account setup spec currently shows a decision (in its Closed Issues section)
to have a default mail account and a default news account in seamonkey. Alecf
indicated via email to me this would be in seamonkey at some point.

I've written bug #16243 to cover migration from 4.x, but we need feature work in
seamonkey to implement default servers, including method of exposing the feature
in the UI and letting us know rules-of-use.

I'm not sure how alec's comments in bug #8053 fit in with all this...

Comment 1

[Alec Flett]

nope, decision has been made. we're not doing any default servers other than
Local Folders, which we already do. Marking WONTFIX

Comment 2

[Ninoschka Baca]

Verified Wontfix.

Comment 3

[(not reading, please use [e-mail] instead)]

*** Bug 5651 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 4

[Ninoschka Baca]

I don't understand why this is set to Wontfix because the Mail Spec describes 
different behavior:

The Mail Spec states that for POP or IMAP accounts that the defaults for draft 
and sent will point to the account folders. If a News account is added then it 
will default to the Default Mail account. If there is only a News account then 
it will default to Local Folders.

In all cases the default Stationery folder points to Local Folders.

Comment 5

[Alec Flett]

this is almost done - the only work is basic cosmetics to flag an account as a
default. taking off feature list.

Comment 6

[Alec Flett]

moving non-critical bugs to M20

Comment 7

[Alec Flett]

Reassigning to sspitzer because he knows what we need to do:
- use atoms to uniquely flag accounts - i.e. provide a map from an atom -> account
- remove the localFoldersServer and defaultAccount attributes from the
nsIMsgAccountManager API, and identify those accounts uniquely with an atom
- create atoms for the default news server

Comment 8

[[e-mail] (gone - use [e-mail] instead)]

*** Bug 108876 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 9

[Boris 'pi' Piwinger]

I am confused. Some 20 months ago, Alec said "this is almost done". Without a
default news server we will not be able to use links of the form news:message-id.

pi

Comment 10

[[e-mail] (gone - use [e-mail] instead)]

http://www.mozilla.org/quality/mailnews/tests/sea-mn-newsgroup-function.html

is a testcase that I wrote to demonstrate the default behaviors with our news://
urls (with and without server arguments).  

Comment 11

[Jens Müller (:tessarakt)]

Regarding comment #9:

Why not try all servers?

Well, but in what order ...

Comment 12

[Boris 'pi' Piwinger]

Maybe I miss something in the specs, but I cannot see what to do with
news:message-id, i.e., bug 108877.

pi

Comment 13

[(not reading, please use [e-mail] instead)]

sorry for the spam.  making bugzilla reflect reality as I'm not working on these bugs.  filter on FOOBARCHEESE to remove these in bulk.

Comment 14

[Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie)]

Filter on "Nobody_NScomTLD_20080620"

Comment 15

[:aceman]

Ben, do you think there is anything left to do here?
Having bug 108877 open, it seems to me all is done here (also comment 5).

Comment 16

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

No. We have default servers now.

NNTP is mostly irrelevant today, so no point in adding a default NNTP server. If we want to open news: URLs, indeed the best way is to try all servers, in order of appearance. Indeed, that's necessary, because if the user has 2 NNTP servers, then probably because they carry different groups. No need of a default server for that.