User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a9pre) Gecko/2007102803 Minefield/3.0a9pre
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a9pre) Gecko/2007102803 Minefield/3.0a9pre
This started when at the time I had Gran Paradiso alpha 8 installed on WinXP SP2. After I updated Google Desktop, the program crashes immediately after choosing a profile from the Profile Manager. I updated to the 10-28 nightly, and it still happened. I can prevent the crash by removing three files from the 'components' directory: GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll, GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.js, or GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.xpt. All have 'Date Modified' May 6th 2007 and the DLL says it's version 5.1.704.25560. The Google Desktop update listed in Google Updater says it was version 5.5.709.30344. I can always reproduce it right now, by putting the three files back inside the directory.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Paste the three GoogleDesktop* files into 'components'
2. Start Minefield's Profile Manager
3. Choose a profile
I mistyped; just adding/removing the DLL will cause the crash; the others don't have an effect.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1a1pre) Gecko/2008053004 Minefield/3.1a1pre
I can't recreate this bug. I've tried Minefield nightly build, RC1, I've moved and removed the said files, but it won't crash.
When you remove those DLLs, does the Google Desktop stuff still work?
This is topcrash 18 on Windows:
and as reporter infers, has existed for a long time. Crash stats go back. They all say the same thing:
(In reply to comment #2)
> I can't recreate this bug. I've tried Minefield nightly build, RC1, I've moved
> and removed the said files, but it won't crash.
Have you tried with the older version DLL files, or the ones that you get when installing the Google Desktop client now? I think what's happening is that the update wasn't able to write the newer DLLs, so there's a mix of old version DLLs and the new version of Google Desktop
If you look at top crashers you will see more than one GoogleDesktopMozilla and
another googletoolbar. So this could be a top ten easy.
Unfortunately I reinstalled GDS on one machine before I realized the scope of
the problem. I can try it on another machine (with I think a similar old
version of GDS)
The scenario that broke for me was
Old GDS + FF3 + FF3 + FF3,
Uninstall all FF3,
I just installed GDS to check this bug so the DLL files are the ones that come with the install. I think the problem is with the update DLL files then.
(In reply to comment #6)
> I just installed GDS to check this bug so the DLL files are the ones that come
> with the install. I think the problem is with the update DLL files then.
? The FF3 rc1 dlls?
Sorry I misspoke. I meant that the DLL files that came with the install don't seem to be causing the problem. Thusly, I'm pointing the finger to the updates. :)
What this bug needs is an expert on windows dlls, how they register with windows, their caching and rebinding. The fact that my system worked for so long suggests that no analysis of FF3 itself will reveal a problem. Except: I almost always used update or zip install, maybe the full windows installer does something?
Another big clue would be easier: does it happen with old GDS on a machine with no FF at FF3 install? Then a fix could be "abort in this case and require GDS update"
Has anyone talked to GDS team? Don't be shy.
i think that google's apps will update themselves.
there's nothing i'm going to do here. assign the bug to someone from the google desktop team.
for reference, here's a sample:
Time 2008-06-03 05:06:42-07:00
Build ID 2008051206
OS Windows NT
OS Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
CPU Info AuthenticAMD family 15 model 95 stepping 3
Crash Reason EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Crash Address 0x9
Frame Module Signature Source
0 GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll@0x5512
1 GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll@0x4b7e
2 xul.dll xul.dll@0x2afd54
note that xul.dll doesn't have a function name. this probably means that we don't have stack unwind information for googledesktop and so the stack is wrong. if you want to have fun you can abuse bp w/ windbg to learn all about this stuff....
you're free to try:
!analyze -v -f
but i doubt it'll help.
i think you'll want something like:
bp LoadLibrary "kp 3; g"
bp nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule "kp 3; g"
bp GoogleDesktopMozilla!DllMain "kp 3; g"
you should be able to add breakpoints to places somewhat randomly until you find the stack trace for the place where control enters but does not return from GoogleDesktop. You might be able to cheat and ask windbg to mark GoogleDesktopMozilla's memory pages as not readable and use that to find out each entry point (set a breakpoint, and then mark a portion readable, and continue from exception), with something like that you should be able to slowly create a map showing code flow through their module.
recommending for relnoting until google fixes this based on comment #10
(In reply to comment #10)
> i think that google's apps will update themselves.
But they don't.
> there's nothing i'm going to do here. assign the bug to someone from the google
> desktop team.
It's not their app that crashes.
If FF3 broke GDS, or even if FF3 didn't work well with GDS, then sure, its their problem. But the user experience here is not at all like that. Rather the user installs FF3 and it crashes before coming up. Nothing about GDS at all. They have no recourse. Why would they read the relnotes for a program that crashes out of the box?
(relnote added, but a SUMO article would be better; I believe installing a fresh GDS fixes the issue)
The relnote says to reinstalling Google Desktop Search. Does that mean that this happens with the latest version of the GDS? I'm asking because I'm wondering if it might be good to add it to the list under "Problematic or out of date extensions or themes" at <http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+crashes>.
I reinstalled GDS and have no crash.
I started to write that this info would not matter. But your page is really excellent, so if people find it, it could make a difference. I suggest listing "Older versions of Google Desktop Search (update available)" with a link to the GDS site.
1) I disabled GDS from tray, FF3 then starts fine.
2) Upgraded GDS to current 5.7.0805.16405-en-pb, which requests reboot.
3) GDS asks for personal config, chose, saved.
4) FF3 runs fine with GDS.
*** Bug 440158 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 447224 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
This doesn't block.
I believe it's actually tech-evang, if not INVALID or WORKSFORME. From what I recall/can tell, the issue is that for users with sufficiently old versions of GDS, some old and unused DLLs may be causing the crash on startup. Comments in this bug verify that if that happens, the solution is to uninstall GDS (which removes the old DLLs) and reinstall a fresh version. Simply updating through GDS itself doesn't seem to remove the offending DLLs.
Kev: do we know if anyone at Google cares to figure out if they can clean the old DLLs out through an automatic update?
*** Bug 443787 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Uninstalled and re-installed Google desktop with the newest version and I still can't view Google desktop in FF3.0.10... Help!
*** Bug 512602 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
(In reply to comment #22)
> Uninstalled and re-installed Google desktop with the newest version and I still
> can't view Google desktop in FF3.0.10... Help!
Shawn, do you still get crashes with your current version of Google desktop? If yes, can you please tell me it's version number? If that's the case you should try the newest version 5.9.909.30391.
I tried it in different ways to reproduce the crash but I'm not able to until now. I have installed version 4 of Google Desktop and always crashed on startup (GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll@0x5824). After updating to the newest version I cannot see the crash anymore.
Nearly all the crashes don't list a version number of the loaded modules from GDS which makes it harder to distinct which version people are using. If anyone knows where downloads for all the v5 minor versions can be downloaded I would appreciate the information.
I can't find these signatures anymore. Also, isn't Google Desktop dead at this point. Seems to me like it's a candidate to be closed. If you feel otherwise, let me know. I am going to remove the top crash keyword in any event.
Google Desktop is gone