Closed Bug 64134 Opened 24 years ago Closed 22 years ago

macromedia.com - Flash 5 player recognizes and installs into NS6 but not Mozilla

Categories

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: English US, defect, P1)

Product:
Tech Evangelism Graveyard
Component:
English US
Platform:
x86
Windows 98
Type:
defect

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
VERIFIED FIXED

People

(Reporter: Erich.Iseli, Assigned: arun)

References

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URL
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Details

(Keywords: shockwave) 

If you try to download the newest flash plugin (version 5), you are redirected
to a page that says: "We are unable to locate a single Web player that best
matches your platform and operating system." If you go to the page with the list
of alternate players, download the "Netscape only" version of player 5 for
windows 98, install it and select the plugin directory where to install it, the
installation tells you that it could not find the "netscape.exe" file. (sure
not, we're on mozilla!). This causes the flash plugin to not work like expected,
see bug 64090.
Keywords: flash
Summary: Flash 5 player should also made for Mozilla → [Evangelization] Flash 5 player should also made for Mozilla
Blocks: 64090
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
I've just tried it on NT4.0 and looks like they changed things recently. The 
installer downloads, and it has NS6.0 option now. After you do everything and 
restart the browser (you are not supposed to but this is a different bug) it all 
works fine. Marking wfm.
av@netscape.com : this bug is for Windows 98 and not NT4. Installing works with
NT4 but it doesn't with Win 98. Reopening.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WORKSFORME → ---
This can also be reproduced on Win 2k
Oh, I see. But why is this a Mozilla bug?
This is a mozilla bug because if there is no plugin like you have on NT4, users
will experience problems see bug 64090 and will blame Mozilla for it. Therefore
we have to evangelize macromedia on this point.
Now you have flash 5 installed, have a look at the URL given in the bug 64090. I
bet you can see the background transparent. I marked the bug invalid but filed
this bug instead. I hope you understand what I mean...
IIUC, Macromedia has released a version of Flash/Flash installer that 
recognizes and installs into Netscape 6 but not Mozilla. This would be a 
problem with the Flash installer that MM would have to fix. 

Changing summary from "[Evangelization] Flash 5 player should also made for 
Mozilla" to "Flash 5 player recognizes and installs into Netscape 6 but not 
Mozilla." Reassigning to kiwi@macromedia.com for further investigation.
Assignee: av → kiwi
Status: REOPENED → NEW
Changing summary
Summary: [Evangelization] Flash 5 player should also made for Mozilla → Flash 5 player recognizes and installs into Netscape 6 but not
fixing Summary
Summary: Flash 5 player recognizes and installs into Netscape 6 but not → Flash 5 player recognizes and installs into NS6 but not Mozilla
Frank Furthmueller <frank@furthmueller.de> wrote the following in a mail to me:
<q>
I don't know wether it helps anything (maybe it should be mentioned in a
readme-file): making mozilla the default browser and copy the file 'mozilla.exe'
as 'netscape.exe' in the \bin directory makes the actual version of shockwave
installable.

I figured this out, because I'm in the QA process for a web designer and have to
check the pages, if they are working in mozilla and they have massive
flash-content. 
</q>
It worked for me too. I am using Widows 2000 and Build ID:2001020120. I rename
mozilla.exe netscape.exe, run flashplayer5installer.exe, it launch mozilla. Then
I rename netscape.exe back to Mozilla.exe. (I didn't have to make it my default
browser.) It looks like MacroMedia could easily make their installer work ...
Changing component to "Evangelism".
Component: Plug-ins → Evangelism
On Linux we say which installer ?
We do it the hard way untar de player in the plugins directory.
And yes... it works with mozilla 0.8


Pinged kiwi by email as a reminder. Please, Macromedia, be Mozilla-friendly! ;->
due to inactivity in this bug I am taking it.
Assignee: kiwi → bclary
QA Contact: shrir → zach
Priority: -- → P1
Summary: Flash 5 player recognizes and installs into NS6 but not Mozilla → macromedia.com - Flash 5 player recognizes and installs into NS6 but not Mozilla
contacted 7/6/01. Marking assigned.
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
-> Arun
Assignee: bclary → aruner
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
All Evangelism Bugs are now in the Product Tech Evangelism. See bug 86997 for
details.
Component: Evangelism → US English
Product: Browser → Tech Evangelism
Version: other → unspecified
I just tried to install Flash on my Mozilla 2001083103 (Win98 first edition),
and I got the following error:
"You must select a Netscape Plugins forlder to install into"
(I attempted to install it to Mozilla\bin\plugins\ )
-> Plugins
Component: US General → Plugins
QA Contact: zach → mgalli
The newest flash player, which I think was released within the last week,
correctly identifies Mozilla on Win32 (the only problem I noticed being that due
to the entry of Mozilla under both Mozilla and Mozilla.org in the registry it is
found twice).
Confirming, the Flash 6 installer correctly installs to Mozilla.

There are some problems with the installer, though.  Does that mean this
evangelism bug should remain open?  I, too, witnessed the duplicate "copies" of
Mozilla detected.  Plus, it failed to restart Mozilla properly and caused it to
crash.  I think the problem was that it didn't detect the QuickLaunch app and
assumed Mozilla was completely unloaded, so it immediately launched a new
browser window.


This bug is fixed (latest win32 flash) and I would recommend marking it as such.
not fixed. Reporter of bug 148735 mailed me a screenshot showing the "We are
unable to locate a single web player..." etc. page. He was using 2002052306 on NT
Did that user try to install flash 5 or the new Flash MX Plugin? if it was 5 we
should not care and mark as fixed.
if somebody wants to point out that it is not fixed in flash 5: They will not
fix the old version.
if this bug can not be verified while using Flash MX Plugin Installer, we should
get this bug to the fixed status (lowing number of open bugs is a good in my
opinion).
But let me point out one thing more: why don't ask macromedia to build an xpi
installer? the use ActiveX(secure, ai? ;-)) to install it on IE, so why should
they not want to use xpi to install it? (I think they know that Compuserve and
future version of AOL software will use Gecko)
just MHO.(please do not blame me for the spam,although it's so much @ bugzilla
since 1.0 release)
works since flash 5
#24: This is still an evang problem with Macromedia's browser detect code for
their plugin download pages (Flash and Shockwave). Once you download the NS
plugin installers, they detect Mozilla and install without any problems.

The frame on their detect/download page that supplies the download instructions
- or in our case, the "no match" info - is sourced from
http://sdc.shockwave.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi. NS6 is picked up
correctly since the UA string (obviously) contains "Netscape". However, based on
the official UA spec
(http://www.mozilla.org/build/revised-user-agent-strings.html), there's no
Moz-specific element of the UA string that the detect code could use to identify
Mozilla correctly.

Since we've started including rv: details in the UA string (eg Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530), would it be
possible to update the UA spec to reflect this and prod Macromedia into checking
for rv: and displaying the NS download details?
*** Bug 153922 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 155113 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 118868 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
afaik this is fixed now, am I wrong?
The latest Flash player:
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
Recognizes Mozilla. It have a problem with a xpt file in some cases (bug 159393).
*** Bug 95023 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 167671 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 148132 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
this is now fixed in flash 6
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago → 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
SPAM: New Components
Component: Plugins → English US
v
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Product: Tech Evangelism → Tech Evangelism Graveyard
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