Open
Bug 69099
Opened 24 years ago
Updated 3 years ago
Alt/F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible
Categories
(SeaMonkey :: UI Design, enhancement)
SeaMonkey
UI Design
Tracking
(Not tracked)
NEW
People
(Reporter: sean, Unassigned)
References
(Blocks 1 open bug)
Details
(Keywords: access)
I hate it when a site opens up a popup window and hides the menubar in it. I'd like to be able to rt-click in the window and enable the menubar from the context menu.
would it be ok if we put it in the system menu? [i don't know if all os's allow this] [macos probably doesn't care]
Assignee: asa → ben
Component: Browser-General → XP Apps: GUI Features
QA Contact: doronr → sairuh
Reporter | ||
Comment 2•24 years ago
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available anywhere, doesn't matter where. Doesn't even necessarily have to be on a menu of any sort - a pref with no ui where you can specify a key combination to toggle the menubar would work.
Comment 3•24 years ago
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use a user stylesheet to turn off the menubar in your build.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Reporter | ||
Comment 4•24 years ago
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Why?
Comment 5•24 years ago
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Ben: You misunderstood the bug. The problem isn't hiding the menu, it's showing the menu once the menu has been hidden.
Status: RESOLVED → UNCONFIRMED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Comment 6•24 years ago
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Ahh Yes I like this idea immensly. It always pisses me off when I cant use Context menu's in a site. Marking NEW and putting in Browser General because I dont think its XP-Apps.
Assignee: ben → asa
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Component: XP Apps: GUI Features → Browser-General
Ever confirmed: true
QA Contact: sairuh → doronr
Summary: [rfe] add show/hide menubar to content context menu → [RFE] Add show/hide menubar to content context menu
Updated•24 years ago
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Assignee: asa → ben
Component: Browser-General → XP Apps: GUI Features
QA Contact: doronr → sairuh
Comment 7•24 years ago
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over to XPApps.
Comment 8•24 years ago
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this would be useful, but i'd rather not have it in the context menu. i don't mind have having this option in one of the main menus [prolly View] and/or having a hidden pref. recommend wontfix for the context menu aspect.
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Comment 9•24 years ago
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I don't think an option to show the menubar would be of much help if it was in the menubar that was hidden. Trying my hand at resummarizing.
Summary: [RFE] Add show/hide menubar to content context menu → [RFE] Add mechanism that user can invoke to show the menubar if it's been hidden by content javascript
Reporter | ||
Comment 10•24 years ago
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That's not meant to imply that the context menu is the right place either...
Comment 11•24 years ago
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sean, heh, good point... hm, other than having a pref [hidden or otherwise], methinks this might be a candidate for a keyboard shortcut. thoughts?
Comment 12•24 years ago
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If the key can just show the menu (doesn't need to actually toggle the menu), F10 would work.
Comment 13•24 years ago
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i like F 10.
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Comment 14•24 years ago
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ditto
Comment 15•24 years ago
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It might also be good to show the menubar if the user presses Alt (without pressing anything else while Alt is held down.)
Comment 16•24 years ago
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Hmm, or Alt+F (or another menu mnemonic).
Comment 17•23 years ago
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Matthew, comments? -> markh, who did F10. Mark, can you help out with expanding and showing menubars if these accelerators are pressed? (Doing it from C++ would be difficult; the expansion part might be impossible. Then again, if we do it from the FE, we want this behavior for all menubars. Perhaps we can do it in the binding, if the menubar gets the keypress from anywhere...)
Assignee: ben → MarkH
Comment 18•23 years ago
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Any mechanism offered has to be available from both the mouse and the keyboard, for accessibility reasons. `F10' won't cut it, especially on platforms where the function keys are reserved for OS use(ahem). Here's what I suggest. On Mac OS, the window.open flag to turn the menu bar off should have no effect at all. Now before standards compliance people (or people who think I'm giving the Mac special treatment) jump up and down, here's the explanation ... When authors use this flag, they're asking for a window without a menu bar *in it*. On Mac OS, that's what they always get anyway, so setting the flag should have no effect. (And indeed, on Internet Explorer for Mac OS the flag does have no effect.) On other platforms, when the menu bar is turned off, there should be an item at the bottom of *every* context menu (not just the page context menu, but also the context menus for links, images, image links, and frames), saying `Show Menu Bar'. This does the obvious thing. And yes, I know this makes the context menus even longer, but (a) it's only for popups, and (b) I have a bug to clean out the trash from the context menus already.
Updated•23 years ago
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Summary: [RFE] Add mechanism that user can invoke to show the menubar if it's been hidden by content javascript → [RFE] Alt/F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible
Comment 19•23 years ago
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This isn't just about menus. This is also about scroll bars being taken away. I have had times where I needed to scroll a popup but couldn't. There should be a way to get back any part of a window's chrome that you need - be it the menu, status bar, close window, scroll bars, whatever.
Comment 20•23 years ago
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Adding access keyword, as this has been discussed by the W3C User Agent Accessibilit group.
Keywords: access
Comment 21•23 years ago
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It would be cool if pressing Alt or Alt+MenuLetter would temporarily show the menubar and hide it again when a menu item has been activated or Esc pressed. It'd also be nice to permanently restore any missing chrome. As already noted, it's a bigger problem than just the menu. It's important to be able to restore (and I'd suggest toggle them off again, too) the menus, scrollbars, statusbar, toolbars, and locationbar. I believe IE4 put this context menu in the application control menu (available from Alt+Spacebar and by clicking on the icon at the left end of the titlebar). IE5 seems to have removed the capability as near as I can tell. Does this require some sort of pref to disable this capability for a kiosk mode? (I don't know if Mozilla supports a kiosk mode).
Comment 22•23 years ago
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Pressing Alt shouldn't show the menu bar. This will be messy with access keys for HTML elements. If I have a field named "_L_ast Name:", I need to press Alt+L to access that field. Undoubtedly, I will press Alt before I press L. As for context menus, what about sites that have eat the oncontextmenu event so that they are never displayed?
Comment 23•23 years ago
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Sorry, I should have been clearer. When I said press Alt, I meant that it should trigger the menu on the release of Alt. Just like the File menu is normally highlighted after pressing and releasing Alt. Mozilla would certainly know whether the Alt+Letter combo was for a menu or accesskey. Only a combo for the menu would need to show the menu.
Comment 24•23 years ago
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Last time I checked, this would be a technique for a W3C User Agent Guideline. The user is supposed to be able to stop UI from being removed by web content.
Blocks: uaag
Comment 25•23 years ago
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See also bug 72001, pressing Alt+E while menu bar is collapsed makes it impossible to click on the menu after uncollapsing the menu bar.
Comment 26•23 years ago
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See bug 81331, Ctrl+L should make location bar visible if it's hidden.
Comment 27•22 years ago
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*** Bug 128406 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 28•22 years ago
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I would prefer if the context menu item was "Show toolbars" instead of "Show menu bar". Just showing the menu bar would be awkward, and I'm usually most interested in seeing the location bar. Showing the menu bar (or other toolbars) should also turn on scrollbars if scrollbars were disabled for the window, because there's no menu item for toggling scrollbars and because the content is likely to need scrollbars once any chrome becomes visible.
Comment 29•22 years ago
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*** Bug 137004 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Updated•22 years ago
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Blocks: 135841
Summary: [RFE] Alt/F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible → [RFE] Alt+F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible
Comment 30•22 years ago
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*** Bug 142105 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Updated•22 years ago
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Summary: [RFE] Alt+F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible → [RFE] Alt/F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible
Comment 31•22 years ago
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*** Bug 144318 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 32•22 years ago
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Recommend wontfix since we now have prefs (see bug 107949) to prevent scripts from hiding the menubar in the first place.
Comment 33•22 years ago
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That's silly. I *do not* want all of my pop-up windows to have menubars. That would just clutter things unnecessarily. And yet, in those rare occasions when I need to get at infrequently-used commands on those popup windows (doc info, etc) I still want some way to get at them. (I agree that on a mac it might make sense to just never hide the menubar, but I'm talking about unix.)
Comment 34•22 years ago
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Jamie, all of your popups wouldn't have menu bars - you would only get the menu bars if you used a command to navigate to the menubar.
Comment 35•22 years ago
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Aaron Leventhal wrote: > > Jamie, all of your popups wouldn't have menu bars - you would only > get the menu bars if you used a command to navigate to the menubar. That sounds fine. But I was replying to: Jonas Jørgensen wrote: > > Recommend wontfix since we now have prefs (see bug 107949) to > prevent scripts from hiding the menubar in the first place. which I interpret as "if you ever want a popup to have a menu bar, then set a preference to make them all always have menubars", which sounds like a terrible idea.
Summary: [RFE] Alt/F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible → Alt/F10/context menu item to make hidden menubar visible
Comment 36•22 years ago
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add JG
Comment 37•20 years ago
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I believe that this feature should nto only be limited to the menubar, but it should show all items that have been removed by the window.open command. This includes, but is not limited to: the menu the toolbar(s) the address bar the status bar the scroll bars As such, a more descriptive context menu item may be necessary. Some ideas: "Restore window defaults" "Show window tools" "Restore window toolbars" -------------------------- In addition to this, I also have several questions that I believe need to be addressed. 1) Would it is also be equally useful to have a context menu option to restore the window back to its original form (with whatever toolbars, and menubars that were originally missing)? Just like this feature we are proposing, it would only apply to windows that were once a pop-up. 2) Of a more serious nature, what do we do when that window calls a close() command in javascript?! If the user started using that page to browse other sites on the internet, then if he encountered (either accidentally or through a malicious website) a page that calls window.close(), then he would suddenly have his window closed on him. This, of course, would not be a good thing. In order to prevent these kinds of problems, I would think that the window should no longer be allowed to close. However, if we did this, would this cause other problems that I am not familiar with? Would it affect W3C compliance? Should we not allow the user to restore all "chrome" features in the first place?
Comment 38•20 years ago
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I just looked at Bug 26353, however I'm not sure of the difference between that bug and this bug. Here's what I made out: This bug suggests adding a keyboard shortcut and context menu item, while Bug 26353 just suggests a context menu item. This bug suggests an option to restore the menubar, while Bug 26353 suggests an option to restore all the chrome items including the menubar. Should both bugs exist?
Updated•20 years ago
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Product: Core → Mozilla Application Suite
Comment 39•19 years ago
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Probably, because this bug is one of two open bugs genuinely blocking bug 26353.
Updated•13 years ago
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Assignee: mhammond → nobody
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