138960 - Have mail checked (biff) when quick-startup (turbo) is on

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(SeaMonkey :: MailNews: Message Display, enhancement)

Description

[Berin Loritsch]

On windows boxes, when the quick-startup code is up and the icon is
in the taskbar, it would be nice if Mozilla checked for messages even
if there are no windows open.

Currently, a Mozilla window must be open.  If I could just have the
quick startup agent running, then I won't have to clutter my box with
extra junk I don't need at the time.

At least have this as a configurable option--Its possible not everyone would
love it.

Comment 1

[Lorenzo Colitti]

I for one would prefer things to stay as they are. When I close the last mozilla
window, I know that no-one can read my mail or see if I have received a message
without knowing the password.

Comment 2

[Anders Åge Larsen]

Perhaps a password feature as optional when opening/changing an profile? 

Comment 3

[Berin Loritsch]

In multiuser OS's, everyone's preferences are kept separate.  THis is one of
the beauties of Mozilla vs. Netscape.  I have a profile in use, and noone else
uses my machine.  FOr me it would be a good feature.  For you, maybe not.

That is why I proposed it as an option to have.

Comment 4

[Srilatha Moturi]

over to mscott. Scott, if you are not the right owner of this bug please 
reassign this

Comment 5

[Carsten Menke]

---> Lorenzo Colitti

If you are afraid that when you closed the last window no one else can read your
email, why could you then not simply deactivate Quick Launch or Exit Quick
Launch ? Also this feature would only be available as I read on the Mail & News
Project Page if the Password is saved. If you save your Password everybody can
read your Mail independent of Mozilla is running or not.

2. When you're scared about this, then I guess you are not sitting in front of
Win 98, so you're using WinNT or Win2000, so when you leave your desktop, do you
not log out ?

Voting for this bug as it is really a handy feature

Comment 6

[Lorenzo Colitti]

Carsten:

> If you save your Password everybody can read your Mail independent
> of Mozilla is running or not.

Not if you have a master password. If you close all mozilla windows and then
reopen mail, mozilla will ask you for the master password.

Comment 7

[Carsten Menke]

Lorenzo:

Where could you save a "master" password ? I have not yet found this option
(Mozilla May 11th on Linux) ?

I see no problem, this feature could be implented with respect to these things
(as stated on the Mail and News Project Page.

Lorenzo, seriously, do you really think it is a big problem if this feature
would be implemented ?
The Security Cautious Person can lock the screen, logout, disable Quick Launch,
not save the Passwords for the mailboxen etc, etc.
I think the advantages overweight.

Comment 8

[Lorenzo Colitti]

Carsten: Tools->Password Manager->Change Master Password...

If you give Mozilla a master password, all passwords you save are encrypted and
can only be used if you first "unlock" them using your master password. See the
docs at:

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/psm/help_21/using_priv_help.html#using_encrypt

I don't have a problem with the proposed feature, as long as it can be turned
off: I don't have a multi-user OS, and the mozilla master password is all that
stands between anyone and my saved web/email passwords.

Comment 9

[Carsten Menke]

Lorenzo: Ok, now I understand better your position, the Master Password setting
I always overlooked in the preferences because I never had a use for it.

Anyway, how I understand the Project Proposal on the Mail and News page, this
should be implemented with care of this.

Comment 10

[Liam Morley]

I've been hoping that an email client would support this feature for some time
now. However, I can't agree with the idea of turning quick-launch off if you
don't want this feature. I think that whether the user wishes to have alerts on
if quick-launch is enabled should be an option in preferences; let the user
decide. Is that a possibility?

Comment 11

[Liam Morley]

*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

Comment 12

[[e-mail] (gone - use [e-mail] instead)]

*** Bug 149675 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 13

[Graeme Humphries]

*** Bug 168234 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 14

[R.K.Aa.]

*** Bug 173925 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 15

[Jo Hermans]

*** Bug 181073 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 16

[[e-mail] (gone - use [e-mail] instead)]

*** Bug 184185 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 17

[Peter Lairo]

keyword? (mozilla1.3,nscatfood)

Related to or contradicts bug 127122?

Comment 18

[Ian Pottinger]

You can have your cake (bug 127122) and eat it (bug 138960) too.

Imagine two separate apps sharing a common library of routines a la bug 115348.

Comment 19

[Matthias Versen [:Matti]]

*** Bug 198516 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 20

[Sam Hulick]

Hopefully this will be implemented at some point.. it appears to be a hot item

Comment 21

[Mike Cowperthwaite]

This enhancement is very closely tied to fixing Bug 71105.

Comment 22

[John Vandeput]

In NetScape4, when mail closed, while browser open, new mail notification was active

Comment 23

[Mike Cowperthwaite]

John Vandeput, Mozilla 1.4 (and I presume Netscape 7.1) will check mail (once 
mail checking has been started via the mail/news window) so long as at least one 
Mozilla window (browser, mailer) is open.  Not, however, if only the quicklaunch 
is loaded; hence this bug.

Comment 24

[John Vandeput]

In Mozilla 1.4, when mail closed, while browser open and quicklaunch 
running, new mail notification is never active

Comment 25

[Liam Morley]

i received notice that this bug had additional comments through email, when my
email wasn't open. i'm using moz1.4. so i'm going to have to agree with mike in
comment 23.

Comment 26

[Romain Gobert]

Why simply not to allow the mail module to be reduce in the system tray?
I think that it shall allow to resolve this probleme of facon simpler
It would be enough to add an option in preferences...

Comment 27

[Mike Cowperthwaite]

That would be a useful way to approach this, but I think the reason having the 
QuickStart module handle it is to reduce the memory footprint used by Mozilla 
while inactive.

I recently noticed that when the QuickStart is active, there is no profile: when 
Mozilla is loaded from QuickStart, it always prompts to select a profile (if 
profile selection is not specified by the command line or elsewhere).  If this 
aspect is not changeable, then this bug is not fixable: there has to be a 
profile selected in order to check mail.

Comment 28

[Alfonso Martinez]

*** Bug 227128 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 29

[Worcester12345]

Quicklaunch is done based on: Bug 383161 – keep in memory (turbo mode?) for
faster startup not working

so this one should be WONTFIX I guess.

Comment 30

[:Hb]

Quick Launch is gone in SM2.