Closed
Bug 253964
Opened 20 years ago
Closed 3 years ago
need GUI improvement for the file/copy to/move to/recent folder for selected message feature
Categories
(Thunderbird :: Mail Window Front End, enhancement)
Thunderbird
Mail Window Front End
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
DUPLICATE
of bug 350661
People
(Reporter: mkrisch, Unassigned)
References
Details
(Whiteboard: dupeme?)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040706 Firefox/0.9.1 Build Identifier: Thunderbird/version 0.7.1 (20040626) for large mail folder hierarchies, the current implementation for the file selected message toolbar button (or the move/copy message dialog from the menu) can be quite cumbersome, requiring the user to navigate through several layers of menus. evolution provides a directory tree dialog, and automatically highlights the last folder selected. outlook uses a similar pull down menu structure as mozilla/thunderbird, but provides a "recently selected folders list" at the top which works also works well. personally, i have no particular preference for the option selected, but i do think that we need something to improve ease of use beyond the current implementation. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.select message 2.choose the file selected message button, or 3.choose the move/copy message menu option 4.select a folder deep within a mailbox folder hierarchy 5.rinse and repeat Actual Results: i got RSI Expected Results: provided an easier interface to simplify access within a folder hierarchy, or provide shortcuts to recently used folders
Comment 1•20 years ago
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See also: a simple suggestion which would help in bug 249836. Since we already have a very good GUI interface for filing messages (drag and drop) I suggest work needs to be done on a good keyboard interface. What I feel would help the most is somsething similar to what elm / pine / mutt do. I used pine for many years and it is much faster for filing mail than anything GUI I have seen. In pine I would do this: 1. Select a range of messages: 1.1. the current message selects a single message 1.2. use search to select a range of messages 1.3. indivudally select messages 2. Press S for save. 3. Type the name of the folder to save to. Tab completion works, or you can jump to a full folder list with Ctrl-T. I think if Thunderbird could be improved to have fast and reliable message filing, it would be a major win for heavy email users. Thunderbird already has many of the ingredients. 1.1, 1.2 work fine. 1.3 has no keyboard equivalent, although Mark - Flag is almost there if there could be some keyboard shortcut for it, or you could use a label, and then view only messages with that label, and then select all. Thunderbird is missing a keyboard shortcut for Move message or Copy message. It is also missing a way to unambiguously specify a destination folder using the keyboard. Which means to file mail using the keyboard you have to press: Menu (key next to right hand side Windows key) M (move) use arrows to choose from my accounts use arrows letters to choose mail folder folder (it's not top level in IMAP) use arrows / letters to chose destination folder It's fiddly and slow. What I suggest is new keyboard shortcuts for Move and Copy message. (Move is more important.) When pressed the user can then *type* the name of the destination folder. Tab auto-complete should be available, as should some GUI display. A bit like the firefox location bar. I guess a separate field should provide a way to change accounts or move within the folder tree. Or just use good old "/", and provide the current folder posiiton in the tree as the starting point. I file a lot of mail, so I have given my folders short names. I don't want a crop down list box because it's very fiddly to use with the mouse and fiddly with the keyboard if more than one folder starts with the same letter. I want to be able to do: Ctrl-S (or similar) work or Ctrl-S (or similar) personal Thanks for your work on free software.
Comment 2•20 years ago
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See also the Thunderbird Extension MailConsole for one attempt to fix the problem. It's not been updated since release, alas. http://percro.sssup.it/~pit/mozilla/mailconsole/
Comment 3•20 years ago
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*** Bug 223341 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4•20 years ago
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From the duplicate bug 223341: ============================== Elderly users or people new to using a mouse are going to find it very difficult to move a message because the command for that is buried in submenus. It would make more sense to have a separate menu entirely, called "Xfer". Then you would click on Xfer->, and possibly the top level mailboxes of the currently selected email account could be in the menu that appeared after that, making it much easier for people who do not find using a mouse second-nature. This is similar to what Eudora has done, and it is worth copying.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Comment 5•20 years ago
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See also: bug 263032 And in Seamonkey: bug 153977, bug 207070, bug 202031, bug 227162, bug 239598
Comment 6•20 years ago
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Similar issues apply to the mail folder subscribe dialog box. I have hundreds of IMAP mail folders. I don't want to subscribe to them all in thunderbird, at least not until the mail folder interface improves. And picking individual folders to subscribe to is very tedious. As far as I can tell the keyboard is completely ignored.
Comment 7•20 years ago
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This is a simple solution that might help. I just thought to try and use cut/copy/paste to transfer messages between folders. I found though that cut/copy/paste are disabled when selecting messages. What I suggest is something like this: 1. Select messages in the message list pane. 2. Select Cut or Copy to put the messages on the clipboard. 3. Select the destination folder. 4. Select Paste to move/copy the messages in to the destination folder. There are a couple of snags: * there needs to be a way to select multiple messages within a folder using the keyboard only (at the moment you have to Ctrl-click or Shift-click) * the general ambiguity created by the default 3 pane layout: what is "selected" when both the folder and message line are highlighted? * there still needs to be a fast way to move from folder to folder Even despite those snags, it would still be much easier to move messages using cut/copt/paste this way when using a laptop trackpad. The current drag-and-drop or endless-cascading-context-menu methods of moving messages are very fiddly with any serious number of messages and folders.
Comment 8•20 years ago
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Implementing bug 181866 would help a lot to fix this problem. See also the Quick File extension: http://www.paultomlin.com/projects/mozilla/thunderbird/quickfile/ https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=thunderbird&version=1.0&os=Windows&id=348
Updated•19 years ago
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OS: Linux → All
Hardware: PC → All
Updated•17 years ago
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QA Contact: front-end
Updated•16 years ago
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Assignee: mscott → nobody
Comment 9•14 years ago
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(lost for a long time I think due to inexact summary)
Summary: need GUI improvement for the file/copy/move selected message feature → need GUI improvement for the file/copy to/move to/recent folder for selected message feature
Comment 10•13 years ago
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I'm inclined to say this is delivered - "provide shortcuts to recently used folders" - via bug 350661. Do you see it differently?
Whiteboard: dupeme?
Comment 12•12 years ago
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(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #10) > I'm inclined to say this is delivered - "provide shortcuts to recently used > folders" - via bug 350661. Do you see it differently? do you agree?
Comment 13•12 years ago
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Yes, that was one of the alternative options in the original report. And there is also bug 546722 that would complement this.
Updated•3 years ago
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Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 3 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
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