Closed Bug 112315 Opened 18 years ago Closed 12 years ago
RFE: Single button to automatically send spam w/headers to spamcop or other anti-spam systems
Platform: PowerBook G3/300/192Mb/48Gb, MacOS X 10.1.1 Fizzilla Build ID: 2001112005 This is an RFE. The volume of spam these days is getting a little silly. So, I have an RFE. It would be awesome, as we're reading mail and we come across spam, if we could hit a single button and have an email instantly sent to a specific email address and deleted. An example of how this would be useful would be spamcop.net. If we have an email address setup to submit spam, then we could just hit this button when reading email. The spam would be automatically sent with headers to the anti-spam system and deleted from our inbox to save us time. This would also be simple enough to use that more people would probably use such a system, which would help all of us receive less spam. - Adam
Note that this feature might be easily abused by users who don't know exactly what spamcop considers to be spam. "My father-in-law sent me this dumb joke" is not really spam (in the spamcop sense). Perhaps the feature could be disabled by default, and only enabled via a pref which encourages folks to click a "more information" button before using the feature. If the feature is set up to work through some mozilla-universal connection with spamcop, then spamcop might be willing to maintain a page with that information (they probably already have one they could copy to a URL guaranteed not to change... so that URL could be locked into Mozilla) -matt
Your idea is good, but it makes this more complex than it needs to be. All this button is actually doing is sending the complete email, with headers, to another email address (of the user's choosing) and deleting the message. Spamcop no longer accepts spam from people who haven't signed up for their service. Since the user must put in a valid email address to use this Moz feature, and Spamcop will only accept email to a specially formatted email address that is given to the user when they sign up, this entire point is moot. - Adam
ahh... I had missunderstood that Mozilla was to register on behalf of all those users using this feature so that the user would hit the button, and *poof* that's it... no user registration beforehand, as Mozilla.org already registered and obtained the specially formated address. mea culpa
I've been wanting this for awhile. What I'm imagining: Highlight a message and either click a toolbar button, select a menu item, or right-click and select a contextual menu option. This will forward the message to a user-defined address (specified in Preferences), which Spamcop provides when you sign up. The forwarded message can either be sent as an attachment, or with the FULL headers included inline. The forwarded message should be copied to the Sent folder, and the original message moved to the Trash. I'm thinking the option in Preferences should like this, disabled by default: [X] Enable Spamcop button Address to forward to: [__________________________] This should be global for all accounts, so it should go in Preferences under Mail & Newsgroups, not in Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings.
Most systems will not work with a forwarded email, the email must be sent as is. How Pine handles this is with an additional email action like Reply or Forward called "Bounce". Just like clicking forward, you are asked for an email address to bounce the email to. Nothing it quoted or changed about the email. So it might be good to study those email systems and see how they handle it.
What I'm envisioning for this RFE is the following: This feature is not enabled or visible by default. It must be specifically checked in Prefs. "Display Anti-Spam Button in Toolbar?" If this check button is checked, a text area below it is enabled. "Anti-spam email address". When these two things are done, a button appears in the Mail window. "Anti-spam" (Icon: John Cleese with the universal "no" circle with slash over him? ;) ) If a user is reading a spam, they simply click the Anti-spam button (or hit a cmd/cntrl-key combo). The message is immediately forwarded as is, including headers, no mods to the message, to the listed anti-spam address. The beauty of this is that it is minimal work to add to Moz, and will work with any anti-spam system that can take submissions through an email address. If a user must sign up for that special email address, so be it. We don't get into that, so it makes implementation simpler. In the help system, we could list URLs of various anti-spam systems for them to register with, explaining that Netscape/Mozilla.org doesn't handle that. - Adam
John Cleese would be perfect, although I don't know how recognizable he'd be in an icon that small. Note that a picture of a can of SPAM, a pink blob of meat, or "SPAM" in all caps is a no-no; " spam" in lower-case is fine. See http://www.spam.com/ci/ci_in.htm for Hormel Foods' trademark policy. Ideally, if the option is checked in Preferences, there should be: 1) a button in the toolbar 2) an item in the Message menu, possibly with a keyboard shortcut 3) an item in the contextual menu when you right-click the message All these would apply in the Preview pane; the first two would also apply if you double-click the message to open it.
And, what I didn't see mentioned here, was it should delete the message too.
Comment #4: "...and the original message moved to the Trash."
What about adding also a one step action to send it back to the original sender as a simulated delivery failure from posmaster@mydomain ? I've heard it works not so bad.
Please add that as a new RFE bug. I want to keep this RFE very tight, so it will (hopefully) actually get implemented. :) - Adam
That's bug 109930.
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I've been diligently sending spam to spamcop and UCE@FTC.GOV for months now without any noticable effect on the amount of spam i receive (i actually seem to be getting more now). I wonder how useful this feature would be (although I still would like the feature). :( RE comment #4: perhaps multiple forwarding addresses would be better (e.g., SpamCop AND UCE@FTC.GOV, etc.)
Agreed, and spam with stock tips goes to firstname.lastname@example.org as well. Should be able to specify a list of recipients and checkboxes for which of them to send to by default in Preferences, and override the checkbox defaults on a per-message basis as easily as possible. For UI, I'm thinking a button with a popup menu (similar to the Back button with a history list in Navigator) with checkmarks in the menu; select the menu item to reverse the checkmarks. Click the button to forward to everything checked. Checkmarks for each new message reverts to defaults set in Preferences.
The reason I want it, is so that I can forward it my local "spam knowledegebase", hopefully improving the ability of any spam filter. Sending it out to government organziations is the last thing I (personally) want to do with it.
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How about incorporating this into the new bayesian junk mail filter? I haven't thought through *how* this could be done, but maybe one of you guys have an idea.
Can this bug also be expanded (slightly) to include sending *multiple* e-mails to spamcop (or similar organisation) with a single click of a button? Suggested new subject line: "Single button to automatically send (multiple) junk mail (spam) w/headers to spamcop or other anti-spam systems"
I'm thinking it shouldn't be integrated too closely with the bayesian spam filter - if there's any chance of legitimate mail getting flagged as spam, I don't want it being autoforwarded to SpamCop until I've seen it. I just want a button.
Yeah, perhaps there just is no "creative" solutuion to joining junk mail filters with autoreport Junkmail (spamcop). In absence of that, we then definetely could use a way to report a *large number* of junk mail simultaneously with a minimum of clicks: 1. The Junk Mail Controls move junk to the "Junk" folder. 2. The user goes to Junk folder and selects multiple junk mails (CTRL-A, SHIFT-click or CTRL-click). 3. user presses "Report Junk Mail" button, upon which each of the selected mails is reported (to spamcop) *individually*. PS. Notice I've changed the terminology from "spamcop" to "Report Junk Mail", as i think that *wherever* the junk mail is forwarded to needs to be configurable (inc. multiple recipients).
Perhaps there could be a safety mechanism. Sometimes you're going through your email pretty quickly, and it would be easy to accidentally click this button twice, or hit it when you didn't mean to. I'd suggest there be an additional checkbox, "Only allow submission when email in folder <<POP-UP MENU OF FOLDER NAMES>>". Here's the concept: you've received email. Moz has already run spam filtering on your email, flagged potential spam, and moved it to a "spam" folder that you view later. This checkbox would only allow you to use the one-button spam submission if the spam has already been moved to the spam folder. This way, there's less likelihood of submitting an email that isn't spam to SpamCop. And you're probably going to go through all these and delete them anyway, so while you're at it, you're submitting to SpamCop as well. - Adam
Another thought for this bug: if this button is clicked, the message is automatically marked as spam if it wasn't before. This way we don't have to click multiple things to report spam & improve Moz's filtering. - Adam
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I have an interim workaround.. It's actually done as a forward within sendmail. The program simply peels apart the first level of attachments to an email, and presumes tham to be emails which are sent to spamassassin. Line 27 denotes the program to send the spams to -- which could just as easily be ' sendmail email@example.com' This program (I call it 'detach') or a symlink should be placed in /etc/smrsh the line in /etc/aliases would be: spam-report:|exec /etc/smrsh/detach Of course, it doesn't delete the email, but it does allow you to select multiple spam-mails and attach them all to one uber-email. Once they're sent, you just hit 'delete'. to remove all of the sent spams.
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I think this would be best made an extension for thunderbird. There is definately a need for such a feature, but the amount of actual end users that would use such a feature is most likely below 10%. If even that high.
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I am currently using a anti spam program as well as mozilla mail and in the anti spma applicaton all you need to put in is your special email account that you get from spamcop after signing up. This is so simple and should be intergrated asap. and by the way it DOES HELP. I see certain spammers email being marked by spamcop during a period of days. It is all about how many people submit spam to the system.
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I just recently joined the Blue Frog community, and I don't know yet if it works or not, though the reviews and testimonials seem convincing. If I understand what you're asking for, this is more or less what the Thunderbird extension on this page does: http://members.bluesecurity.com/cwa/adds_on.do?from=corporate&promotion=_ This extension only works for the Blue Frog community, but it does what is being asked here: It forwards marked junk mail to a pre-approved e-mail address on a spam reporting system. The functionality in this RFE could be implemented by hacking the XPI to forward e-mail to any user-defined e-mail address, which shouldn't be so hard (though I've never hacked XPIs before myself).
An RFE to this RFE I would like to see is for the location to which the email is sent a choice of either a) an email address or B) to abuse@ispOfSender where this mail address is searched and discovered by thunderbird/mozilla using the headers and whois databases.
This functionality is provided by the Okopipi extension for Thunderbird. http://www.ibiblio.org/shadow/okopipi/
Ahm, as I noticed Okopipi just forwards messages. It does not "bounce" them. But bouncing the original message is important because of the original headers. I would use this feature to bounce messages back to dspam (I'm using dspam with signature in header). So what is the state of this bug? Is someone implementing it? Get's it ever implemented? cheers Daniel
This is quite clearly a job for an extension, one per spam system. Gerv
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 12 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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