Save the following code snippet verbatim to a file: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN"> <html> <!---------------------------- Another comment ------------------------------> You should see this text, but Mozilla cannot see this ? </html> Now try and load it via Mozilla. It fails to display the text you should see. Netscape 4.7.x works fine. Explorer works fine. Mozilla fails to display. Please refer to the page http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/wilbur/misc/comment.html for HTML comment syntax which says that <!xxxx> is a VALID comment. This should be considered a BUG.
Created an attachment with the original test case (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=51207&action=view) Confirmed with w2k 0.9.4+ 2001092308. Works with IE 5.01.
This is not valid html. From http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.2.4 : "A common error is to include a string of hyphens ("---") within a comment. Authors should avoid putting two or more adjacent hyphens inside comments." Thus, the comment is your example is not a valid comment ->invalid
reopening, typo in cc and going back to page changed invalid to fixed
right one this time
Sorry i disagree. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.2.4 says "Authors should avoid putting two or more adjacent hyphens inside comments." There is only ONE hyphen in this comment. My testcase is not invalid.
Ah ok, i see you meant the second comment.
I am reopening as for the following reasons. 1. The URL http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.2.4 statest Authors should "avoid" putting 2 or more hyphens in a comment. However it doesn't state that violates the HTML standard. 2. This breaks a lot of web pages out in the world and we cannot fix all of them 3. It works with all other browsers, including Netscape 4.x, Internet Explorer, Netscape 6 (which is based on Mozilla Milestone 18) and will severly limit the use of Mozilla in the real world 4. It is a regression from Mozilla builds (as per #3 above) 5. Is should be a trivial fix. 6. The behavior is inconsistent even if you quote #1 above. I attach another code snippet and IT WORKS even if you have 2 or more hyphens in the comment. Please fix this.
Furthermore when you view the page source to either of the attachments both render it in green as a comment block thereby implying that it accepts that this is a comment block, but one renders the HTML properly and the other doesn't. There seems to be a mismatch between the rendering engine and the parsing engine.
I'm assuming (maybe incorrectly) that there was a parser which parsed the server provided html and then did a handoff to the render engine so each individual component could do its job - e.g. HTML would be rendered by the html engine, GIF/JPG would be rendered by the imaging engine, etc... Maybe a different paridgm is used but i assume the design must be similar, hence the behavior i am seeing with the "Page Source" showing a different understanding of the code it is being given, and the browser rendering a different version.
<!-- Comment start ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP -- COMMENT END!! THIS IS NOT REALLY IN A COMMENT Another comment ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP ---- NOOP -- COMMENT START > THIS IS STILL COMMENTED Please read the spec, or search for bugs where bz explains this.
I fail to see your point. That code works fine. I.e. everything is treated as a comment between "<!" and ">" as it should and i see "THIS IS STILL COMMENTED" being displayed. What exactly are you saying ? Basically the facts are: 1. Behavior is inconsistent in same mozilla release on treating of number of hypens in a comment. 2. A seemingly arbitrary number of hypens will make or break the parsing of comments. 3. It is not consistent between Mozilla releases. It is a regression from Mozilla milestone 18 and Mozilla 0.9.x If the behavior is consistent then we have a leg to stand on in order that we can say that the page has incorrect html. However this is not the case. Depending on an arbitrary number of hyphens we will render or not ! This is ludicrous. Please tell me why this is invalid code. And point me to the "invalid spec" you mention ?
OK. Here is the situation: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN"> puts mozilla in strict mode. In strict mode we do strict comment parsing. The strict syntax for comments is as follows: "--" starts a comment. "--" ends a comment. Both of these only inside an SGML markup declaration. "<!" tells the parser to start such a declaration. ">" tells the parser to end such a declaration. The reason HTML tells you not to have "--" inside a comment is that it will _end_the_comment_. However, "----" will end a comment and start a new one. This is why you see inconsistent behavior... Your original testcase, with text in  to denote what's a comment and what's not: <!--[comment]--[not comment]--[comment]--[not comment]--[comment]-- [not comment]--[comment]--[not comment]--[comment]--[not comment]-- [comment]--[not comment]--[comment]-- [not comment, but inside SGML markup, so not shown]Another comment-- [comment]--[not comment]--[comment]--[not comment]--[comment]-- [not comment]--[comment]--[not comment]--[comment]--[not comment]-- [comment]--[not comment]--[comment]--[not comment]-- [comment, including the ">"]> So the ">" is _commented_out_. Thus the SGML markup declaration never ends and all the rest of your document is treated as SGML markup (and promptly ignored). Please read that htmlhelp.com page again. Then count the number of dashes they have in their examples carefully. That page presents everything correctly. In particular, note the paragraph starting "Not all HTML parsers get this right.". We _do_ get it right, and just as "hello" in that example is commented out, the text in your testcase is commented out. Now to respond to your numbered list of statements: 1. The HTML spec is not the normative spec on comments. All it says is that the syntax is SGML comment syntax (that's why you have to start an SGML markup section to use comments). There is unfortunately no free electronic version of the SGML spec available. Again. the htmlhelp.com site you mention describes this topic well and correctly. 2. This only breaks pages claiming a strict doctype and thus strict conformance with the HTML spec. Pages with no doctype or doctypes declaring HTML versions 3.2 or lower, 4.0 transitional, or 4.01 transitional without dtd uri get backwards-compatible (read: broken) parsing 3. What you're saying is that some bugs in Mozilla got fixed and bugs in other browsers are not fixed yet. Have you tried IE6 on that page, by any chance? 4. See my answer to #3 5. This does not need fixing 6. This is your misunderstanding of the spec. Please read the htmlhelp site again. Oh, and view page source has a known bug that causes it to do broken comment parsing even for strict pages. See bug 91045 (it's marked duplicate of a wide-ranging parsing cleanup for view source). I'm marking this invalid. Please feel free to reopen if you can convince me, after reading that htmlhelp.com page 3 or 4 times, that this is incorrect.
From Goldfarb, "The SGML Handbook" (contains the full text of the SGML standard, ISO 8879): comment declaration = mdo, (comment, (s|comment)*)?, mdc comment = com, SGML character*, com Explanation: this is the formal expression of SGML comment syntax. For the purposes of HTML, mdo (markup declaration open) is <! and mdc (markup declaration close) is > and com is --. s is "separator characters", i.e., whitespace. The * indicates that the preceding token may occur 0 or more times, the | that one and only one of the tokens it separates may occur, and the ? that the preceding token may occur 0 or 1 time. Hence, <!xxxx> is a legitimate comment *declaration*, because it *does not actually contain a comment*, which is optional. From the prose of ISO 8879, again: "No markup is recognized in a comment, other than the com delimiter that terminates it." As bz pointed out, because the intended mdc character ">" is enclosed within a comment, *it is not recognized as markup*, and hence is not closed. Verifying INVALID.
Bug 120385 has some good examples too for a technote.
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It seems that this bug is the cause of rendering issues with some Ikonboard-based boards: http://gens.consolemul.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=6;t=347;st=30 contains a seriously screwed thread page... If you look on the HTML for this page, you will see things like this: --- <!--QuoteBegin--blindpainkiller+Jan. 07 2006,10:03--><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (blindpainkiller @ Jan. 07 2006,10:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color='#000000'>About the SMS Sonic 2 level select:<br>I remember back in the day when I used a SMS converter on my Megadrive and I couldn't get this cheat working no matter how much I tried, but on the real console it worked fine. I've tried it many times on Fusion too, but can't get it working <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://gens.consolemul.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad-smiley-056.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->. I think however that I some years ago heard about someone who got it working in Meka, but I'm not sure.</font><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><font color='#000000'>I've got it working in Meka and it wasn't years ago that I reported it, a couple of months ago at best (maybe someone else reported it years ago), and the cheat always worked in Meka as far as I can remember.<br>It didn't work on a MD with the SMS converter? That's strange.</font> <!--Signature--><br><br>--------------<br> --- The page is rendered fine on IE7, but FF interprets the post test as a big comment, screwing up the page. This happens in some newer Ikonboard versions (this one is 3.1.5), but not in old versions. The comment that causes this mess is this one: <!--QuoteBegin--blindpainkiller+Jan. 07 2006,10:03-->. Notice the two extra dashes...
Created attachment 428003 [details] Domain name closes HTML comments. Any domain name with consecutive hyphens breaks comments. Ex: <!-- <a href="http://ex--ample.com/">Commented Out</a> --> "Commented Out -->" is incorrectly rendered on the page.