12699 - (gnksa) [meta] Good Netkeeping Seal of Approval (GNKSA newsreader standard)

Status: NEW

(MailNews Core :: Backend, defect, P5)

Description

[Phil Peterson]

This is a meta bug to track the places where mozilla needs to improve to meet
the Good Netkeeping Seal of Approval

Comment 1

[Simon Fraser [no longer active]]

Added GNSKA url

Comment 2

[selmer (gone)]

Phil found a way to weasel out of owning this bug.  Reassigning.

Comment 3

[Matthew T (active 1999-2002)]

One moment, fixing dependencies ... (Bugzilla won't let me do this in one step)

Comment 4

[Matthew T (active 1999-2002)]

... there we go. Much better.

Comment 5

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

4.5 evaluation:
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/Evaluations/netscape-communicator-4.5.txt>

Comment 6

[selmer (gone)]

Is the score identical for both 4.5 and Seamonkey??

Is anyone willing to help fix some of these dependent bugs?

Comment 7

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Steve, I'm sure, it's not identical, but I guess, the evaluation will look
similar - some problems fixed, but some new problems :-(.

Maybe, it would be good to do a "preview evaluation" by ourseves (i.e. look over
the requirements to see, if we fail in new places), if we care. Maybe I'll do it
some time, when I'm in the right mood.

I'm working on 35158 (fixed in my tree) and 9202 (mostly fixed in my tree) and
indirectly on 6276.

Comment 8

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

> Maybe, it would be good to do a "preview evaluation" by ourseves

I just noticed, John did the 4.5 evaluation. He would propably the right guy to
do it, then.

Comment 9

[John Moreno]

I'll do a full evaluation latter, but for now...



Followup-To and Reply-To no longer shown by default.

Followup-To: poster -- is addressed to the "newsgroup" poster.

When I changed that to the newsgroup I was using for testing,

and posted the message, the content-type said plain/text but

the body was HTML (this despite my having to answer a dialog

asking if I wanted HTML).  More latter

Comment 10

[John Moreno]

Ok, finished enough for the moment.  I haven't submitted it, but
I've put it up at: <http://www.newsreaders.com/john/m15.html> for
the moment.

Some points -- there isn't a command for Reply Via Email, so I've
failed it on 8a and 8b.   I didn't test it for server load, it was so slow
I doubt if I could have got it to even attempt a second action before it
completed the last.

Comment 11

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Nomination for mozilla 1.0.

Comment 12

[John Moreno]

Did someone just change this to "fixed"?  If so why?

Comment 13

[Karl Ove Hufthammer]

> Did someone just change this to "fixed"?  If so why?

No, a depending bug (#71121) was changed to 'fixed'. You can turn of e-mail 
notification of related (depending/blocking) bugs onthe BugZilla e-mail 
preferences page.

Comment 14

[Garth Wallace]

John Moreno's evaluation is no longer available on newsreaders.com, AFAICT.

Comment 15

[John Moreno]

I assume you mean my  unfinished evaluation of m15 at, 
<http://www.newsreaders.com/john/m15.html>, I changed the directory 
name and didn't provide any links.  Sorry about that, I've fixed it.

But it's way out of date, and according to the docs my computer is no 
longer supported (not too surprising given the speed when I did the 
evaluation).  And at least some of the failures in that version have been 
fixed in later versions.

Comment 16

[Garth Wallace]

Should bug #95623 take the place of #17796 in this bug's dependency list? 17796 
is listed as blocking only because it could be used to fulfill the GNKSA 
section 2 requirements. The subject of 17796 (dual menubuttons for replying, 
forwarding etc.) is not itself a GNKSA issue.

Comment 17

[Boris 'pi' Piwinger]

This bug is not OS dependend. Please someone set OS=ALL

Adding bug 37088 (Trailing whitespace when folding QP encoded headers) to
dependency, this one is for GNKSA requirement 5 b) (Preserves entire original
Subject), adding additional white space destroys the original Subject.

pi

Comment 18

[selmer (gone)]

Scott, over to you for safe keeping :-)

Comment 19

[Vidar Haarr (not reading bugmail)]

Hows about adding the 'meta' keyword and setting target milestone to Mozilla 1.0 ?
Also, should this be nsDogFood or nsCatFood ?

Comment 20

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

unfortunately, the chance that this will get in before 1.0 is next to 0. Today
is feature deadline, I think.

Comment 21

[Boris 'pi' Piwinger]

Requirement 13a): Cancel -- Adding bug 150036.

pi

Comment 22

[Boris 'pi' Piwinger]

Removing dupes:
Bug 4567 is a dupe of bug 73403 which is already in the list.
Bug 17124 is a dupe of bug 13767 which is fixed (so I don't add it).
Bug 34549 is a dupe of bug 6276 which is already in the list.

Should we also remove other resolved bugs?

pi

Comment 23

[Boris 'pi' Piwinger]

I discussed with Jonas that it would be better to have the dependencies for this
bug an bug 76449 (Must-fix GNKSA bugs) non-overlapping. This will enhance the
overview. Changing summary etc. to make this clear. Of course, bug 76449 blocks
this here.

Removing bugs listed in bug 76449:
Bug 3744, bug 3745, bug 3746, bug 17796, bug 35338, bug 66150, bug 95623, bug 169614

pi

Comment 24

[scottputterman]

reassigning to sspitzer

Comment 25

[(not reading, please use [e-mail] instead)]

sorry for the spam.  making bugzilla reflect reality as I'm not working on these bugs.  filter on FOOBARCHEESE to remove these in bulk.

Comment 27

[u597032]

Does GNSKA still exist?

Comment 28

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Netkeeping_Seal_of_Approval