Replace multiple-tab-closing prompt with the ability to restore multiple tabs
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(Firefox :: Menus, defect)
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(Reporter: jaws, Assigned: jaws)
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(Depends on 1 open bug, Blocks 2 open bugs)
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(Keywords: feature, Whiteboard: [qa-])
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Backed out changeset 3d607fcf4dee for causing failures in toolbar-context-menu-undo-close-tab
Backout link: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/autoland/rev/cf0c39ed1f707f1e6b403298a50153441b4a9355
Failure log: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#/jobs?job_id=304371035&repo=autoland&lineNumber=17661
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Is there a pref to move them out of the submenu? I've been using Close Other Tabs and Close Other Tabs to the Right a lot and this change annoyed me...
there was a backlash against similar change in the past. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1480472 . what's the reasoning behind the reintroduction?
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(In reply to Masataka Yakura from comment #32)
Is there a pref to move them out of the submenu? I've been using Close Other Tabs and Close Other Tabs to the Right a lot and this change annoyed me...
there was a backlash against similar change in the past. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1480472 . what's the reasoning behind the reintroduction?
These were moved to a submenu because people were accidentally clicking them when trying to do non-destructive operations.
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See this comment too, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635883#c2
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(In reply to Jared Wein [:jaws] (please needinfo? me) from comment #34)
(In reply to Masataka Yakura from comment #32)
Is there a pref to move them out of the submenu? I've been using Close Other Tabs and Close Other Tabs to the Right a lot and this change annoyed me...
there was a backlash against similar change in the past. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1480472 . what's the reasoning behind the reintroduction?
These were moved to a submenu because people were accidentally clicking them when trying to do non-destructive operations.
isn't that what browser.tabs.warnOnCloseOtherTabs
guards for?
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I also find it very annoying that Close Other Tabs and Close Other Tabs to the Right were moved back to a submenu. This was already fixed once (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1502083). There should be a simple way to move them out of the submenu.
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I also agree that this change needs to be reverted. As Masataka Yakura said in comment #36, that is what browser.tabs.warnOnCloseOtherTabs
is for. Moving them to a submenu is solving a problem that doesn't exist, and inconveniencing many other users to do so.
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(In reply to Masataka Yakura from comment #36)
isn't that what
browser.tabs.warnOnCloseOtherTabs
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warnOnCloseOtherTabs is only used when the number of tabs being closed is greater than the SessionStore limit.
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Please stop complaining, things sometimes have to change, and this change is going to help the majority of people that don't have a voice here because they are normal users and so they don't come whining to Bugzilla, what they do when they come into any insignificant problem like the one this patch solved is that they just switch to another browser instead and that is bad for Firefox as a whole.
If you don't like this change you can provide a clean patch to get things back using a preference in about:config
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(In reply to monterro from comment #40)
Please stop complaining, things sometimes have to change, and this change is going to help the majority of people that don't have a voice here because they are normal users and so they don't come whining to Bugzilla, what they do when they come into any insignificant problem like the one this patch solved is that they just switch to another browser instead and that is bad for Firefox as a whole.
If you don't like this change you can provide a clean patch to get things back using a preference in about:config
This comment is not really fair. It is impossible to tell how many people will switch to another browser or how many will start using firefox because of one change or another. This is just your assumption. I think all comments and complaints should therefore be taken seriously. We are all dedicated firefox users.
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Please revert "close tabs to the right" from submenu
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This should not be reverted because it is fixing a super annoying problem that happens to a lot of users, the close tabs options are still there but moved to a submenu, I don't see any of you provide a justifiable explanation on why this should be reverted and why it is more important than the bug it is fixing.
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I don't see any reason why a submenu is needed. All the options: 'Close Tabs to the Right', 'Close Other Tabs', 'Undo Close Tabs' and 'Close Tab' can appear on the main menu.
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Can you stop fixing what doesn't needs to be fixed already?! You tried moving these 2 options to a submenu already and reverted because people didn't like it. WHY do you KEEP trying to move these options in there? "But some users accidentally close there tabs". Ooh, cry me a river if that happens. I would like to see statistics on the time lost having to open an additional submenu each time VS. an accidental close tabs IF it happens. It just doesn't make sense, is NOT productive at all for power users who have a lot of tabs open and want to kill off everything except for a few tabs on the left where they started.
AT LEAST there should be an option to choose which behavior you want. For a browser that wants to be the alternative for all these 20-in-a-dozen chromium browsers, you really are picking the wrong battles to differentiate yourself.
Stop the shenanigans, bring back the "CLOSE TABS TO THE RIGHT" to the main menu. Thank you.
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(In reply to monterro from comment #40)
Please stop complaining, things sometimes have to change, and this change is going to help the majority of people that don't have a voice here because they are normal users and so they don't come whining to Bugzilla, what they do when they come into any insignificant problem like the one this patch solved is that they just switch to another browser instead and that is bad for Firefox as a whole.
If you don't like this change you can provide a clean patch to get things back using a preference in about:config
You literally have a "Firefox Developer edition" (which I use). Why would you force "normal user" features on power users? Beyond comprehension.
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(In reply to monterro from comment #43)
This should not be reverted because it is fixing a super annoying problem that happens to a lot of users, the close tabs options are still there but moved to a submenu, I don't see any of you provide a justifiable explanation on why this should be reverted and why it is more important than the bug it is fixing.
What bug do you mean? I didn't even understand why we duscussed this in issue describes closing tabs promt.
You asked why it should be reverted? Very simple, because "close tabs to right" is used a lot and now we have extra step.
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(In reply to Jared Wein [:jaws] (please needinfo? me) from comment #34)
(In reply to Masataka Yakura from comment #32)
Is there a pref to move them out of the submenu? I've been using Close Other Tabs and Close Other Tabs to the Right a lot and this change annoyed me...
there was a backlash against similar change in the past. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1480472 . what's the reasoning behind the reintroduction?
These were moved to a submenu because people were accidentally clicking them when trying to do non-destructive operations.
You have special section for closing/restoring, right? If you click to this area - you know what you do.
Why just not to re-arrange items to this:
- Restore (it's not dangerous)
- Close tab (nothing serious)
- Close all tabs to the right (most people move active tab to the left, and close others. So in bad scenario you missed some tabs)
- Close all tabs (be carefull!)
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In issue you talked about you asked to move close all tabs to submenu when one tab is open. Only one.
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I really don't get this. I checked the right click tab context menu again and the "close tabs to the right" and "close others" are almost the only reasons why you would even right click on a tab since there are faster/easier alternatives for most of the items there. An overview:
- Reload tab: not really that useful as you can just click the refresh icon on the main interface
- Mute tab: not really that useful as you can just click the mute icon on a tab that has music playing
- Pin tab: ¯_(ツ)_/¯
- Duplicate tab: useful
- Select all tabs : who ever does that ?
- Bookmark tab: not really that useful as you can just click the bookmark icon on the main interface
- Move tab: who ever does that, you can just drag the tab.
- Send tab to Device: ¯_(ツ)_/¯
- Undo close tab: CTRL+SHIFT+T if you even know this feature exists
- Close tab: not really that useful as you can just click the close icon on a tab on the main interface
In summary, only Duplicate tab is really useful in that menu + the Close tabs to the right + Close other tabs.
The fact that the Close tabs to the right + Close other tabs are one of the most useful entries on the menu but are placed behind another submenu are really beyond comprehension to me. Please revert, just like was done before or provide options to set this behavior but make the grouping opt-in! Sometimes I really wonder who comes up with these "features". smh.
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We will have a meeting tomorrow to discuss the feedback here and determine if we should make any changes. Thanks for your comments and feedback.
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(In reply to Jared Wein [:jaws] (please needinfo? me) from comment #50)
We will have a meeting tomorrow to discuss the feedback here and determine if we should make any changes. Thanks for your comments and feedback.
Any news to share on what the outcome of the meeting was?
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(In reply to mewimab306 from comment #51)
(In reply to Jared Wein [:jaws] (please needinfo? me) from comment #50)
We will have a meeting tomorrow to discuss the feedback here and determine if we should make any changes. Thanks for your comments and feedback.
Any news to share on what the outcome of the meeting was?
Thanks, we decided to keep the change and as well as create an article on support.mozilla.org that explains the rationale behind the change and the benefits that Firefox will gain from making said change.
This is the current draft of the article:
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In Firefox 78, the Tab context menu has been changed to add a new "Close Multiple Tabs" submenu. Inside of this submenu are options to "Close Tabs to the Right" and "Close Other Tabs".
This change was made for the following reasons:
- As feature are added and context menus grow, we would like to keep the size of the menu short enough to be read quickly. One of the ways we can do this is to group similar commands. By grouping the commands that close multiple tabs together, we can shorten the height of the context menu by one menuitem. It should be noted that we also do not want to remove context menuitems just for the sake of it because some context menuitems are the only accessible non-keyboard-shortcut way for keyboard-only users to access such functionality as Pin Tab, Mute Tab, Duplicate Tab, etc.
- Some users have reported that they accidentally clicked the "Close Tabs to the Right" and the "Close Other Tabs". While a user has the ability to restore their tabs through the "Undo Closed Tabs" menuitem, some data may have been lost as well as potential increased network usage if we are unable to restore the pages from the Firefox cache. We decided that adding a little "speed bump" before a large destructive action could benefit users. We prefer this over a modal dialog that requires users to move their mouse across the screen and thus requires more time.
- The "Close Multiple Tabs" submenu provides us an area to add some extra features that users have asked for over the years such as a "Close Tabs to the Left" option.
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Release Note Request (optional, but appreciated)
[Why is this notable]: Adds ability to undo close multiple tabs with one click, and rearranges the tab context menu to prevent common errors
[Affects Firefox for Android]: no
[Suggested wording]: The tab context menu now allows for undoing multiple tab closings with a single click, and Close Tabs to the Right and Close Other Tabs have been moved to a submenu.
[Links (documentation, blog post, etc)]: https://support.mozilla.org/1/firefox/%VERSION%/%OS%/%LOCALE%/close-multiple-tabs
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