Bug 1214433 (webext)

[Tracking] Web Extensions Development

RESOLVED FIXED

Status

defect
P4
normal
RESOLVED FIXED
4 years ago
7 months ago

People

(Reporter: andy+bugzilla, Unassigned)

Tracking

(Depends on 13 bugs, {meta})

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)

Details

(Whiteboard: triaged, meta)

User Story

For the bugs that are targeted for 57 - use this query https://mzl.la/2oe1O9Z

This bug is holding meta bugs related to webextensions.  They aren't all ones that are committed to - but they give a way to see the meta bugs overview when talking about higher level capabilities.
Web Extensions are kind of there are already, but this tracks all the bugs we want to complete to get to a first release of Web Extensions.
No longer depends on: webextensions-chrome-gaps
Depends on: 1156826
Depends on: 1185459
Depends on: 1185460
Depends on: webext-android
Depends on: 1215197
Depends on: 1190663
Depends on: 1190677
Depends on: webext-oop
Depends on: 1190685
Depends on: 1190688
Depends on: 1190689
Depends on: 1190690
Depends on: 1192432
Depends on: 1192433
Depends on: 1192435
Depends on: 1192437
Depends on: 1192439
Depends on: 1193837
Depends on: 1197346
Depends on: 1197420
Depends on: 1197422
Depends on: 1198405
Depends on: 1199050
Depends on: 1199052
Depends on: 1199056
Depends on: 1199253
Depends on: 1200146
Blocks: 1200674
No longer blocks: 1200674
Depends on: 1200674
Depends on: 1202734
Depends on: 1203233
Depends on: 1203330
Depends on: 1203738
Depends on: 1205886
Depends on: 1207394
Depends on: 1207597
Depends on: 1215375
Depends on: 1213426
Depends on: 1213433
Depends on: 1213450
Depends on: webext-tabs
Depends on: webext-webnav
Depends on: webRequest-full
Depends on: webext-windows
Depends on: 1213895
Depends on: 1213975
Depends on: 1213993
Depends on: 1214007
Depends on: 1214040
Depends on: 1214658
Depends on: 1214790
Depends on: 1214952
Depends on: 1214955
Depends on: 1215130
Depends on: 1215893
Depends on: 1213632
Depends on: 1217879
Flags: blocking-webextensions-
Depends on: 1218175
Depends on: 719905
OS: Unspecified → All
Hardware: Unspecified → All
Depends on: 1230447
Depends on: 1235005
Depends on: 1238585
Depends on: 1239109
No longer depends on: 1215775
Depends on: 1239822
Depends on: 1244474
Whiteboard: triaged
Depends on: 1246748
Depends on: 1246749
Depends on: 1246754
No longer depends on: 1199718
Is this the death of FireFox? Let me rephrase it: will this make addons like "Classic Theme Restorer" impossible after XUL/XPCOM support is discontinued?
(In reply to Sergey Rozhenko from comment #1)
> Is this the death of FireFox? Let me rephrase it: will this make addons like
> "Classic Theme Restorer" impossible after XUL/XPCOM support is discontinued?

Last I heard, the plan was to replace traditional XUL/XPCOM with a mechanism where a WebExtensions addon could depend on a more manually-reviewed "native.js" module which adds new APIs to what the WebExtensions environment can see.

(The idea being that, over time, these "native.js" modules would get refined and then merged in as new official APIs.)
(In reply to Stephan Sokolow from comment #2)

Ah, good then. I was worried we could lose the full customizability of FF, which is its core feature.
Depends on: 1267027
This was tracking stuff we wanted to do for 48. That version of Firefox has been and going. Sadly we didn't get everything on this list (there was a lot), but we got a lot of stuff done. We haven't really been using this tracking bug anymore, rather using the blocking-webextensions flag.

For that reason, I'm going to close this bug.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 3 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
(In reply to Sergey Rozhenko from comment #3)
> (In reply to Stephan Sokolow from comment #2)
> 
> Ah, good then. I was worried we could lose the full customizability of FF,
> which is its core feature.

Indeed, that will happen, because the relevant bug was WONTFIXed on the grounds that native.js is incompatible with Mozilla's vision for Firefox.
(In reply to Mitth'raw'nuruodo from comment #5)
> (In reply to Sergey Rozhenko from comment #3)
> > (In reply to Stephan Sokolow from comment #2)
> > 
> > Ah, good then. I was worried we could lose the full customizability of FF,
> > which is its core feature.
> 
> Indeed, that will happen, because the relevant bug was WONTFIXed on the
> grounds that native.js is incompatible with Mozilla's vision for Firefox.

*nod* Given that Firefox has no --enable-easy-off-store-extension-install equivalent to allow a secondary ecosystem to develop, as has occurred for YouTube downloaders on Chrome, that makes a XUL-less AMO even less free than Chrome's ecosystem. (Not even counting Firefox not yet having support for APIs like chrome.downloads.onDeterminingFilename)

As soon as that change was announced, I started making plans to ride the trains down from Aurora through ESR and then switch to something like Seamonkey or Pale Moon. (Or even Chrome, given that Chrome at least has an actual menu behind the hamburger button rather than the "toolbar buttons in a panel" touchscreen/toy interface I'll be forced onto if Classic Theme Restorer dies out.)

At the moment, given that I've finally lost faith in Mozilla and don't have high hopes for anyone else developing an acceptable ecosystem, I'm working to find/write browser-agnostic solutions for as much as possible of what I currently rely on extensions for (eg. adding a new root into the CA store and setting up an HTTPS-capable proxy to reinvent conveniences like InlineDisposition as well as my privacy and security extensions) in a way that'll work with any browser.

...and, of course, I've prioritized my efforts to write an external bookmark manager with an interface capable of scaling to the volume and complexity I need. (I already use an external password manager, so that's not an issue.)
...though I suppose another potential option would be if something like Qt's QWebEngine gained built-in support for loading WebExtensions.

Then this push toward the lowest common denominator would mean it'd be feasible for me to maintain my own homegrown browser frontend on top of Blink+WebExtensions. (Actually, to be honest, that'd be even more appealing than if Firefox hadn't started retiring XUL.)
Blocks: 1329713
Alias: webext1.0 → webext
Blocks: 1335456
No longer blocks: 1329713
Keywords: meta
Priority: -- → P4
Summary: [tracking] First release of Web Extensions → [Tracking] Web Extensions Development
Whiteboard: triaged → triaged, meta
Depends on: 1303905
Depends on: 1333837
Depends on: webext-more-ui
Depends on: webext-popups
User Story: (updated)
This bug was closed 10 months ago. Is it going to reopen for all these bugs that it depends on to be resolved?
Depends on: 1385202
Duplicate of this bug: 1329713
No longer depends on: 1385202
Depends on: 1416207
Depends on: Session_managers
Depends on: webext-tb
Product: Toolkit → WebExtensions
Depends on: 1483598
Depends on: webext-geckoview
No longer depends on: webext-geckoview
Depends on: 1226546
Depends on: 1232178
No longer depends on: 1226546, 1232178
Depends on: 1305109
No longer depends on: 1305109
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