Closed Bug 85104 Opened 23 years ago Closed 15 years ago

hierMenus - Tracking - webreference, dhtmllab, Peter Belesis

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(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: English US, defect, P1)

defect

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(Not tracked)

RESOLVED FIXED

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(Reporter: bc, Unassigned)

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Details

(Keywords: meta, Whiteboard: [author] [TECHNOTE-NEEDED])

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This bug is to be used to track sites that use Peter Belesis's hierMenu script.

See http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/ for the latest version.

If you find a site using an old version of hierMenu that does not work with
Mozilla, please 

1.  file an evangelism bug on the site.
2.  make the bug block this bug so we can easliy track hierMenu issues
3.  send the owner of the site an email pointing them to the latest version of
Peter Belesis's hierMenu which does support Mozilla.
4.  note in the bug that you sent the letter
5.  mark [TOOL][HIERMENU] in the status whiteboard to allow us to run queries as
well. 

Thanks,
Bob
Marking status whiteboard to classify bug and increasing priority to P1 since
this script is widely used.
Priority: -- → P1
Whiteboard: [TRACKING][TOOL][HIERMENU]
Depends on: 74033
Depends on: 62316
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Contacted Peter Belesis via email asking for his help in notifying sites that
need to upgrade their version of hierMenu.
Keywords: meta
bug 90617 involves breakage in hierMenu due to changes in the offsetXXX
properties fixed in Bug 81290
Depends on: 90617
No longer depends on: 90617
Depends on: 90617
Depends on: 90601
Unfortunately the frame-enabled version of version 4.x
hasn't been released yet.
See http://www.golfinfo.at/start.asp for example.

Any info from Peter concerning the release date of it?
couple of weeks. he just released a new version on 7/12 and won't be doing
another right away.
Depends on: 91023
Depends on: 94292
All Evangelism Bugs are now in the Product Tech Evangelism. See bug 86997 for
details.
Component: Evangelism → US English
Product: Browser → Tech Evangelism
Version: other → unspecified
I heard that the new version is out
Version 4.0.14 of the HierMenus code has just been posted at the WebReference
site that addresses this issue, and web authors are encouraged to download and
update their HM code (which now works as intended for NS6.0, 6.1, and Mozilla
builds before and after 20010726). Perhaps bug 85104 should be marked as fixed,
as this is an HM issue, and not a problem with Mozilla code.

Updated version now available at http://www.dhtmlab.com/column57/
Any news when the frame-enabled version will be available from Peter Belesis?!
Markus, I am not clear as to what you mean by the "frame enabled" version. Can
you elaborate?
Up to now the versio 4 of the HierMenus is only available in a version that 
doesn't support frames at the moment.
Peter said that the next version having this feature enabled will be upcoming 
next. This is needed urgently since most web sites today have a frame 
architecture.

One example would be http://www.golfinfo.at/start.asp
Blocks: 57456
Depends on: 95241
Depends on: 94162
No longer depends on: 74033
Summary: Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to version 4.x → Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to version 4.0.14
follow up with these sites by 0.9.5
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla0.9.5
Peter just released version 4.1 with support for framsets! :)
http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/column58/
I'm sorry - forget my last comment.
Framset support is still not included and this will take probably another 3-4 
weeks till this is integrated into the HierMenus.
Will talk with Peter to hopefully speed things up upon this.
Depends on: 56813
Newest version is 4.1
http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/column58/
Summary: Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to version 4.0.14 → Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to version 4.1
Summary: Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to version 4.1 → Evangelism - Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to version 4.1
Depends on: 71305
Depends on: 85005
Depends on: 91825
-> 0.9.6, need to follow up on these asap
Target Milestone: mozilla0.9.5 → mozilla0.9.6
Depends on: 102929
Depends on: 89491
Depends on: 92705
Attached file Example Letter to Web Master —
Major sites are still facing the problem that there is no HierMenu version that 
supports frames (and is working with Mozilla/NS6.X) !
Any news when Peter Belesis will provide this version?!
changed url to point to HM page. 
use letter templates at http://mozilla-evangelism.bclary.com/letter/misc/
be sure to mention that they should upgrade to the latest and greatest. Before
you send a letter, check the HM page and see what the current version is....
Summary: Evangelism - Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to version 4.1 → Evangelism - Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to latest version
Depends on: 105642
Depends on: 105645
Depends on: 105647
Depends on: 105667
Depends on: 98862
Depends on: 105680
Depends on: 105690
Depends on: 105696
Depends on: 105852
Depends on: 105965
Depends on: 107332
I wrote a french translation available in bug 96135 or here :
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showattachment.cgi?attach_id=55621

just in case it is useful.
Peter Belesis just released version 4.1.2 but there is still no information 
when a version will be available that supports frames! Any news from Peter 
Belesis about the progress?
No longer blocks: 16190
Depends on: 16190
No longer depends on: 105852
Depends on: 105655
Depends on: 109601
Depends on: 105650
Depends on: 111416
Markus, The current version *does* support frames.  What it does *not* support
is having a mouseover in one frame, but the menu appearing in another frame.

To support frames properly, in the array file, instead of a direct URL, you
should have a URL similar to:

javascript:FRAMENODE.location='http://www.dhtmlab.com/'

Where FRAMENODE is of course a DOM node depicting the frame you want it to load
in.  I think that |top.getElementById('frame')| would suffice for pulling in a
frame node, but I haven't played with frames that much (I think they suck) so
that bit might not exactly be correct.  And of course the links wouldn't work in
NS4... Maybe writing a function similar to: |loadURL(url, targetFrame)| can help
with getting it to work Xbrowser.

Most sites can get by with this, can't they?
A good example is the site
http://www.golfinfo.at/intro.asp
There is no way to display the menu in the lower frame
in the current version of HierMenu.
Markus, feature requests for HierMenu should go to Peter. He is kind enough to
support the Standards and Mozilla and that is all we can really ask of him. If
he wishes to add support for frames, that is up to him.
Depends on: 110909
Blocks: 110287
Blocks: 113492
Depends on: 113417
Depends on: 113982
Summary: Evangelism - Sites using hierMenu need to upgrade to latest version → hierMenu - Tracking
Depends on: 84520
Depends on: 116057
-> authors
Component: US General → Authors
Depends on: 66092
Depends on: 68960
Depends on: 92844
Depends on: 93273
Depends on: 116513
Whiteboard: [TRACKING][TOOL][HIERMENU] → [TRACKING][TOOL][HIERMENU][aok]
Depends on: 126200
Depends on: 128214
Depends on: 135124
Depends on: 136119
Depends on: 135510
Summary: hierMenu - Tracking → hierMenus - Tracking
Depends on: 113224
No longer depends on: 16190
Depends on: 157887
Depends on: 138738
Depends on: 88596
Depends on: 125293
Depends on: 127652
Depends on: 145204
Depends on: 159100
Depends on: 160931
Depends on: 157476
Depends on: 166462
Blocks: 170360
No longer blocks: 170360
Depends on: 170360
Depends on: 151556
Depends on: 177410
Depends on: 183580
Ok, this has gone on long enough.
Whiteboard: [TRACKING][TOOL][HIERMENU][aok] → [TRACKING] [TOOL] [HIERMENU] [TECHNOTE-NEEDED]
Depends on: 183523
Depends on: 186297
Depends on: 189608
Depends on: 190710
No longer blocks: 110287
Depends on: 110287
Depends on: 102260
No longer depends on: 109601
Depends on: 188127
Summary: hierMenus - Tracking → hierMenus - Tracking - webreference, dhtmllab, Peter Belesis
Depends on: 103650
No longer depends on: 92844
Depends on: 153936
Depends on: 141985
Depends on: 158645
tech evang june 2003 reorg
Assignee: bc → english-us
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Component: Authors → English US
QA Contact: zach → english-us
Whiteboard: [TRACKING] [TOOL] [HIERMENU] [TECHNOTE-NEEDED] → [author] [TECHNOTE-NEEDED]
Depends on: 161784
Depends on: 217783
reset milestones as irrelevant to tracking bugs.
Target Milestone: Nov → ---
Depends on: 218883
Depends on: 234659
Depends on: 232997
Depends on: 243778
No longer depends on: 94513
Depends on: 169500
Depends on: 265396
Hiermenus 3 is widely used. The main reason for not upgrading to a newer version
is that hiermenus 3 is FREE and the newer versions are US$1000+ per site.
Workaround for this problem is needed.
I looked at all the reamining depending bugs and they are all fixed.
I don't think that this old hiermenu is used in new pages, marking this bug fixed !
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 15 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
matti, you didn't close all the dependent bugs. Was that on purpose?
They should be all closed now, i looked through every report and they are fixed as far as I can tell and i closed them
Product: Tech Evangelism → Tech Evangelism Graveyard
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