456814 - (msgreadertracker) Message reader enhancements (tracker/meta bug) [incl. new header pane changes]

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Thunderbird :: Message Reader UI, defect)

Description

[David Ascher (:davida)]

+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #449691 +++

This bug will track each individual suggested change to the message reader through dependent bugs.

The milestone & blocking flag are used to keep it on radar -- each sub issue will get its own flag & milestone treatment.

Comment 1

[David Ascher (:davida)]

Adding depends and blockers from bug 449691.

Comment 2

[Mikel Ward]

I just filed bug 458661, which may also be related to this work.

Comment 3

[Thomas D. (:thomas8)]

I just filed two message reader related bugs (please include in dependent list of this bug)

Bug 460602 RFE: Message reader: Remove visual clutter of dropdown arrows for each address

Bug 460605 Message Reader: header pane context menu popup takes too long for contacts in long list with lots of addresses

The following bug is also message reader related, and might be an idea for the first Mozilla Messaging version of Thunderbird to "raise the bar" and catch up with usability features that have long been in MS Outlook express, e.g. the ability of selecting and copying more than just one address from a given header with multiple addresses (It is also a regression from Netscape 4...)

Bug 167010 can't select text to copy email addresses in message header

Finally, I love the new yellow stars for bookmarking new addresses, as well as tabbed email, good stuff, carry on like that...

Comment 4

[Ronald Killmer]

Bug 418424  absent email signature disclaimer is unsatisfactory  
:clarkbw is cited @ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418424#c15
for integrating that bug into the new Message Reader layout.

Recommend addition to this tracker.

Comment 5

[Worcester12345]

 Bug 226468 -  Contacts sidebar in Thunderbird lacks "Add to BCC:" button.

Comment 6

[Bryan Clark (DevTools PM) [:clarkbw]]

Bumping off the b2 blocker list as these aren't going to get finished with the time available.  We will have to do a big push on these message reader bugs in the next milestone.

Comment 7

[Dan Mosedale (:dmosedale, :dmose)]

Meta bugs can't block.  I've triaged all the dependent bugs in this tree and marked the appropriate ones as blocking.

Comment 8

[Thomas D. (:thomas8)]

The following bug covers a (larger) subset of this bug and should be closed to avoid confusion:

Bug 513553 [Meta bug] Tracking bug for changes in header pane in Thunderbird 3

Maybe the reason why that "new header" meta bug was opened was that this bug's current summary ("Message reader enhancements (tracker/meta)") doesn't have some of the important keywords that might be needed to find it. I know developers will hate me for this, but in the interest of improved retrievability I suggest adding "[incl. new header pane changes]" to the summary, so that e.g. the following searches will return this bug:

- [New] Message Reader [changes | enhancements | meta bug | tracker bug]
- [New] Header Pane [changes | enhancements | meta bug | tracker bug]

I resisted adding the word "tracking" as well ;)

Comment 10

[Worcester12345]

Target Milestone: 	Thunderbird 3.0rc1 

We are WAY past 3.0rc1, so should change the milestone.

Thanks.

Comment 11

[Worcester12345]

Can we get a NEW milestone?

Comment 12

[Mark Banner (:standard8)]

(In reply to Worcester12345 from comment #11)
> Can we get a NEW milestone?

We generally do not target bugs to a specific release unless they have actually been fixed, in which case it is more a pointer to the release they will be include in. Sometimes developers actively working on bugs may set a specific milestone. We do this for multiple reasons, including not setting false expectations when we don't have people allocated to work on the issue. If you disagree with this policy or the setting for this bug, please discuss on tb-planning which is better suited to this sort of discussion than bugzilla.

Comment 13

[Worcester12345]

(In reply to Mark Banner (:standard8) from comment #12)
> (In reply to Worcester12345 from comment #11)
> > Can we get a NEW milestone?
> 
> We generally do not target bugs to a specific release unless they have
> actually been fixed, in which case it is more a pointer to the release they
> will be include in. Sometimes developers actively working on bugs may set a
> specific milestone. We do this for multiple reasons, including not setting
> false expectations when we don't have people allocated to work on the issue.
> If you disagree with this policy or the setting for this bug, please discuss
> on tb-planning which is better suited to this sort of discussion than
> bugzilla.

What is "tb-planning"? I will check it out if you help me find it. I thought the "Milestone" is something you were using as a checkpoint for where this should be fixed.

Comment 14

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin]]

No, only when for which release it *was* fixed. 
tb-planning: https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-planning

Comment 15

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

The message reader is being largely rebuilt for version 115, so most of the bugs blocking this meta have been closed. Therefore this meta is also being closed. But perhaps worth noting that still open in mozilla-central are bug 80713 and bug 184155.

If you have a problem exists in version 115 when it becomes available in July please file a new bug. You can also evalute the rebuilt reader in 3-4 weeks by trying a beta build.