Bug 7954 (html4.01)

outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support

RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

Status

defect
P3
normal
RESOLVED INCOMPLETE
20 years ago
3 years ago

People

(Reporter: ekrock, Assigned: ian)

Tracking

(Depends on 9 bugs, {helpwanted, html4, meta})

Dependency tree / graph

Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)

Details

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Reporter

Description

20 years ago
This is a meta bug for tracking purposes only.  It "depends" on
individual outstanding bugs with HTML 4.0 compliance and is a way to track them
and to speed the documenting of any deviations, exceptions, or known bugs
which remain at release.

NOTE: This meta bug depends on individual HTML 4.0 compliance bugs, not the
other way around!  If you wish use this meta bug to track an individual HTML
4.0 bug, either make this bug depend on the individual bug, or in the individual
bug, use this bug # in the "bugs which depend on this bug" field.

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20 years ago
QA Contact: leger → beppe
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20 years ago
QA Contact: beppe → ekrock
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20 years ago
Depends on: 994
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20 years ago
Depends on: metadata
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20 years ago
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
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Depends on: 1994, longdesc
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Depends on: 8979
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Depends on: 2750
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Depends on: 2800
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20 years ago
Target Milestone: M15
Reporter

Comment 1

20 years ago
Setting to M15 as this is a [META] bug for tracking only.
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Depends on: 1882
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Depends on: 4050
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Depends on: 7230
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Depends on: 678
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Depends on: 14088
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Depends on: 2055
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Depends on: text-dir
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Depends on: 3166
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Depends on: 7304
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Depends on: 6782
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Depends on: 8938
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Depends on: col-align-inherit
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Depends on: 1802
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Depends on: 8131
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Depends on: 13015
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Depends on: frame-longdesc
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Depends on: 7559
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Depends on: 19425

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Depends on: 797
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Depends on: 9140
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Depends on: 21076
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Depends on: 19312
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Depends on: 18357
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Depends on: 21638
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Depends on: 14445
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Depends on: 7515
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Depends on: 22037
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Depends on: 22153
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Depends on: 2590

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Depends on: 21456
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Depends on: 11229
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Depends on: 7112
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Depends on: 1044
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20 years ago
Target Milestone: M15 → M20
Reporter

Comment 2

20 years ago
Setting to M20 as this is a [META] bug for tracking only.
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Depends on: 24025
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Depends on: 24125
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Depends on: 24126
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Depends on: 24815
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Depends on: 15545

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Keywords: meta
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Depends on: 22820
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Depends on: 26282
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Depends on: ? 17962
No longer depends on: ? 26282
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Depends on: ? 1312, 2
No longer depends on: ? 24815
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Depends on: ? 16157
No longer depends on: ? 24126
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Depends on: ? 2068, 24
No longer depends on: ? 24125, 2
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Depends on: ? 15799
No longer depends on: ? 24025
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Depends on: ? 18644, 22
No longer depends on: ? 22820, 24

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Depends on: ? 2970, 221
No longer depends on: ? 22153, 22
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Depends on: ? 1061, 2203
No longer depends on: ? 22037, 221
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19 years ago
Depends on: ? 3326
No longer depends on: ? 2203
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Comment 3

19 years ago
Marking helpwanted and (since this is just a META tracking bug) reassigning to 
nobody@mozilla.org so I don't get cc:d on every dependency change on every bug.
Assignee: ekrock → nobody
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Keywords: helpwanted
Reporter

Comment 4

19 years ago
Changing QA contact to nobody@mozilla.org so I stop getting spammed.
QA Contact: ekrock → nobody

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19 years ago
Depends on: ? 959, 2
No longer depends on: ? 21638
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19 years ago
Depends on: ? 14362
No longer depends on: ? 21456
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Depends on: ? 3875, 21
No longer depends on: ? 21076, 2
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Depends on: ? 2634, 194
No longer depends on: ? 19425, 21
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19 years ago
Depends on: ? 7670, 1931
No longer depends on: ? 19312, 194
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Depends on: ? 11431, 1864
No longer depends on: ? 18644, 1931
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Depends on: ? 6306
No longer depends on: ? 1864
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Depends on: ? 7834
No longer depends on: ? 18357
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Depends on: ? 16206
No longer depends on: ? 17962
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Depends on: ? 13354
No longer depends on: ? 16206
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19 years ago
Depends on: ? 3248, 1
No longer depends on: ? 16157
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19 years ago
Summary: [META] outstanding HTML 4.0 compliance issues → [META] outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support
Reporter

Comment 5

19 years ago
I'm the reporter for this bug, so I get email for every change on a dependent
bug. I'd like to stop getting this significant volume of email. Is there any way
a bug reporter can arrange to stop getting updates for a particular bug? If not,
would it be possible for someone who actually wants to get these updates to
create a replacement bug for this one with them as the reporter?

Very sorry for the trouble. I'm simply reporting and cc:d on so many reports
that I have to be careful to control flow in every way I can. Thanks for any
assistance!
No there's no way to stop this, the RFE is at bug #17464.

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Depends on: ? 3655, 15
No longer depends on: ? 15799, 1

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19 years ago
Depends on: ? 15799, 1
No longer depends on: ? 3655, 15
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Comment 7

19 years ago
*** Bug 53899 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 8

19 years ago
CC'ing self

Comment 9

19 years ago
adding some

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Depends on: ? 16157
No longer depends on: ? 959, 1
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Comment 10

19 years ago
Taking responsability for tracking this...
Assignee: nobody → ian
QA Contact: nobody → ian

Comment 11

19 years ago
Why is bug 2212 listed here? According to
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html, user argents are not required
to support the char= or charoff= attributes.

Not to say that bug 2212 shouldn't be fixed, but it's not required for HTML 4.01
compliance.
This bug already contains many bugs that aren't required for HTML compliance. 
That's why it's called "full HTML compliance".
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19 years ago
Depends on: ? 2749
No longer depends on: ? 16157
> This bug already contains many bugs that aren't required
> for HTML compliance. 
> That's why it's called "full HTML compliance".

Should this bug depend on bug #74073? I think so, ian@hixie.ch disagrees.
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18 years ago
Depends on: ? 16157
No longer depends on: ? 1994

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18 years ago
Depends on: ? 3687
No longer depends on: ? 16157

Comment 14

18 years ago
Added mozilla1.0 keyword since HTML 4.01 compliance is a design goal of mozilla.
Keywords: mozilla1.0

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Depends on: 96579

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Depends on: 99063
Depends on: 94269
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Depends on: 102896
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Depends on: 102906
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Depends on: 102907
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Depends on: 102915
Depends on: 103053

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Depends on: 105693
Depends on: 106065
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Depends on: 53441
Depends on: 109806
Depends on: 15499

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Depends on: 96658

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Comment 15

17 years ago
Mass removing self from CC list.

Comment 16

17 years ago
Now I feel sumb because I have to add back. Sorry for the spam.

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Depends on: 105556

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Blocks: 151993

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No longer blocks: 151993
Depends on: 151993
Depends on: 153920

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Depends on: 96976
Depends on: 55623

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Alias: html4.01
Keywords: mozilla1.0

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Depends on: 164979

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Depends on: 47522

Comment 17

17 years ago
Should bug 10512 be added?

Then again the comments in 10512 indicate the mozilla team isn't intersted in
full HTML 4.01 support.

Comment 18

17 years ago
Same story with the WONTFIXed basefont bug 3875.

Comment 19

17 years ago
Based on reading the bugs referenced by Comment #17 and Comment #18, where it is
stated by Mozilla/Netscape that 100% HTML 4.01 support is not going to happen, I
really don't see the purpose of this META tracking bug. It seems obsolete, or
end-of-lined, and thus should be marked WONTFIX.

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Depends on: 10512

Comment 20

17 years ago
just because it's not going to be 100%, doesn't mean it isn't worth tracking
exactly which bits aren't compliant and whether they are going to be fixed or not.
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17 years ago
Depends on: 70978

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Depends on: 95549
No longer depends on: 53441

Comment 21

17 years ago
It seems that Mozilla isn't interested in HTML 4.01 support

According to comments in bug #692032 Mozilla isn't an XHTML user agent either. 
In particular ``XHTML isn't part of the current, official Mozilla agenda''.

So I'm curious to know what goals are Mozilla pursuing?  ISO/IEC 15445 perhaps?
 Maybe Mozilla isn't actually an HTML user agent?

I suppose this isn't the correct forum to be rasing these concerns.

Comment 22

17 years ago
Russel: We don't have #692032 bug, yet. Luckily. 

Which bug do you refer to?

Comment 23

17 years ago
Sorry, It's bug #69032.

Apperently Mozilla isn't an HTML UA, it isn't an XHTML UA, it is supposed to be
an XML (+DOM +CSS) UA.

Well, the goals of Mozilla seems to vary from place to place, and from person to
person.

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Depends on: 196735

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Depends on: bearded-imagemap

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Keywords: html4
Summary: [META] outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support → outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support

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Summary: outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support → [META] outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support

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Depends on: 44306

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Depends on: 127137

Comment 24

15 years ago
Removing [META]. We have keywords for that.
Summary: [META] outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support → outstanding issues for full HTML 4.01 support

Comment 25

15 years ago
Should bug 3655 be on here?

Comment 26

15 years ago
bug 189643 ? (see bug 1882 for discussion on standards compliancy)

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Depends on: 277738

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No longer depends on: readonly

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Depends on: 244312

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No longer depends on: 244312

Comment 27

9 years ago
Five and a half years later an update. Shouldn't this bug be closed now that we have HTML5?

Comment 28

9 years ago
(In reply to comment #27)
> Five and a half years later an update. Shouldn't this bug be closed now that we
> have HTML5?

No, HTML5 is just a superstructure over HTML4, so without that being properly implemented, we are missing in HTML5 arena as well.
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Comment 29

9 years ago
That's incorrect. HTML5 did not take HTML4 into account and is not a superset.

Comment 30

9 years ago
Regardless, Firefox needs to support HTML 4 for quite some time if it wants to remain a browser to be taken seriously.

Comment 31

9 years ago
There are 70+ users following this bug who do not want to lsiten in on a debate about the true nature of HTML5 and HTML 4. The question was, do Mozilla need to have this bug open? I was trying to help closing no longer needed bugs.

HTML 4 is supported BY supporting HTML 5. There is only one HTML parser in Firefox and there is only one DOM tree. Firefox has switched to an HTML5 compliant parser. So is this bug helpful to keep track of stuff to implement, or are there better ways?

Comment 32

9 years ago
This is a tracking bug and 22 bugs it tracks are still open. This more or less should end this unnecessary discussion.
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blocking-b2g: 2.2r? → ---
This bug is no longer being used to track/prioritize engineering work, so I'm going to close it out.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 3 years ago
Resolution: --- → INCOMPLETE
Product: Core → Core Graveyard
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